Watcher, I've been periodically posting on this forum for at least a decade (if not longer) and plan to continue as long as the good Lord keeps my computer up and running. I've also spent much time in the kitchen and a little bit of trouble from you won't keep me out. Now, let's just try to avoid each other as it appears you have a grudge against me. Thank you.
I don't understand what a shot is - I admit I'm abrupt and blunt. The only thing I can apologize for is making a broad generalization when commenting. I often do this and for not stating that I apologize. My comments weren't made toward any particular person, but to rebuke a spirit of legalism I thought I detected in the comment section of this article. I was surprised that Watcher took it personally. If I am speaking to a particular person, I will address him or her. Sorry for any misunderstanding.
Amen, Constructive Criticism - I'll take it and thank you for the reminder. Also, I just remembered my mother-in-law turns 83 next month! Praise the Lord! She's a wonderful lady. Please say a little prayer for her, if you are so inclined.
In response to those who might think I'm a feminist: I was a stay at home wife and mother until my sons reached legal age and then I sold Real Estate and new construction. I did this at my husband's request - however, the extra money didn't produce the results he wanted and the good Lord brought me back home through a series of events. Now I'm a full-time wife and mother to a 5 year old German-Pit named Amy. I think most Christian men will agree that submitting to my husband's desire for me to go to work after the children were raised was not sinful. In a private message Watcher asked why I didn't mention my husband or children on my blogs - first of all, they are not your to wonder about or discuss. As I said earlier, I've been a bit controversial and I try to protect them from undue criticism. As far as being ambitious, proud, etc. - if I were I would not have left the workforce and returned home. As far as politics, at one time I was politically active, but after examining Scripture I came to the conclusion that it isn't my place to lead men, so I dropped the ball and now I tell the gent's to pick it up. And for Watcher's info: my profile pic is only a couple years old - it was taken at my mother-in-laws 80th Birthday party. She's now 82.
Well folks, I've been controversial since my new birth approx. 25 years ago. I'm actually a shy type of person who the good Lord pushed out of my comfort zone. I can be abrupt and probably lack social skills. If I say something that offends, please just ask me to explain and I'll try to respond with an explanation of what's going on in my head... Well, some folks might not want to know how my mind works.
I was also disturbed when I learned of the unorthodox church government (ex. women elders) at Willow Creek. I think the church had been playing fast and loose with God's Word since it's beginning (?). Sadly, this latest scandal with Bill Hybels seems to be the fruit the seeker friendly mega churches produce. May God help us to direct new converts to faithful churches.
Rev. David Silversides has an excellent sermon here on Postmillennialism and Revelation: [URL=https://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?m=t&s=9130414633]]]https://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?m=t&s=9[/URL]
The more I read of the allegations against Bill Hybels the more concerned I become. It does appear the church elders were somewhat complicit in the continuance of the abuse. There is also the concern that he isn't showing contrition or repentance for his behavior.
Watcher, I suppose the difficulty I'm having is trying to understand how you can be in the world and yet appear to cut yourself off from it. I'm a Christian who belongs to a reformed church where the word is faithfully preached. Are you? Sometimes those who are the most outspoken on these forums are not even part of a local body of believers. I am not a sports fan in the least, but I do believe in justice and protection for others - especially children. As another person on this thread pointed out, the camera usually focuses on the girls faces. I just think one must have a dirty mind to make young girls doing gymnastics in leotards a sexual turn on. Also, I don't think you're an old man as one person said, but perhaps a younger one who will, Lord willing, mature and grow in wisdom and grace. Now, please leave me alone. I have prayed for the good Lord to deal with you. Amen.
Well, gentlemen, you've proven Rachael Denhollander's point: "Rachael Denhollander: 'Few' Victims of Sexual Assault Find 'True Help' From Church" It sounds like some will blame the victim while patting themselves on the back that they're much better parents than the abused child's parents... And the victim and the parents will leave the church weeping. I wonder how you'll explain yourselves to the Lord on Judgement Day? If I were you, I'd run to the foot of the cross and cry out for mercy and forgiveness for hurting "the least of these."
Watcher wrote: I will go record here to say that what happened to this woman and the others is atrocious. It's wrong and I hope the man involved gets prosecuted to the full extent of the law. That being said, this woman still has a testimony and is still representing Christ. Others look to her as a role model and she can also be considered a stumbling block if her actions are sinful. Okay...some people may, by the grace of God or physiology, have no problem with girls strutting around on a stage in second skin, but SOME DO. We are commanded not to become a stumbling block to our weaker brethren. We are commanded to refrain from the very appearance of evil. We are commanded to come out of the world not be like them. So what if she has a "great testimony", I have heard of others who have had great testimonies and they are no more saved than the devil.Years ago, 'Strippers For Jesus' made the headlines. They also had great testimonies. We are to be judged by our fruit. And one day this woman will be judged for her lifestyle. I wonder how she will defend herself?
The Lord Jesus will defend her - now why don't you leave her alone and let her do the Lord's work without interference or damnation. Thank you.
Yes, the comments have gone off topic. I am familiar with Rachel Denhollander's story. She was homeschooled, grew up in a Christian home and is a genuine believer, as well as an excellent role model for young women. Sadly, she was abused by Larry Nassar, as well as multitudes of other gymnasts. She should be applauded for her courage in speaking out against child abuse - not judged for wearing a leotard while performing as an athlete.
Yes, I have a hang-up with men (and women) lusting in their heart after others. I think it's difficult for one to judge what is dressing modestly, for example I see young women wearing maxi skirts that are quite clingy or tops that have low necklines that leave much flesh exposed. I happen to dress modestly, IMO. But, I do admit to gaining a few pounds over the winter which has left my skirts a bit clingy and tops fitting tighter than normal. However, I do try to dress appropriately for the activity I'm engaged in: jeans and a t-shirt for housecleaning, walking the dog, gardening, etc. A modest skirt, blouse, with jacket or sweater or a dress for church, and if I were to perform gymnastics, a one piece leotard. May the good Lord bless this conversation we've had and use it for His purpose and glory.
Yes, wearing one piece leotards is quite acceptable in certain circumstances - for ex. if one is a ballet dancer or a gymnast. You can quote scripture regarding modesty, and that is well and good, but let's not forget Scripture regarding the heart and how men should not look lustfully upon a young woman (or girl or boy or man, etc.) Scripture also advises one figuratively remove their eye or right arm if it causes them to sin. My advice for men who have a problem lusting after athletic young women is to stay away from ballets and sports events and get counseling. That is not normal and if you have a tendency to lust after young girls or boys, you are on the road to becoming a sexual pervert and criminal.
Thanks Lurker, it's good to hear from you. I hesitated before commenting on this article because I knew I would catch flak. But I just can't look the other way when young naive girls and their parents are accused of wrong-doing because they wear athletic clothing and are fit and talented in gymnastics. I can truthfully say that my husband is not effeminate and yet, young girls in one piece athletic wear do not turn him on. In other words, he only has eyes for me.
Watcher, I'm not following your rabbit trail. You're just angry because I pointed out how sinful it is for you and others to blame the victims of sexual abuse. I don't care if those girls were tumbling in bikinis - the sin is in the hearts of those who lust after young girls and those who deceive and sexually abuse them.
My husband and I have always enjoyed watching the gymnasts during the Olympic Games and never once has he acted as though the young ladies were enticing in the least! Also, the comments posted here regarding the girl's attire (or lack of) implies they are somehow responsible for the sexual abuse they endured and this is reprehensible. Perhaps y'all should review the Sermon on the Mount and do a heart check.
Okay, gentlemen, can we please remember that these girls/young women are athletes? Would you have them wearing a burka while competing? For goodness sake, their athletic wear should NOT be considered a turn on. You all should be ashamed of yourselves for having such wicked thoughts.
John Yurich USA wrote: If I was not really Born Again then I would not have been permitted to be Baptised via immersion(as a public profession of faith that I had embraced Jesus as my Lord and Savior) at my Baptist Church and I would not have been permitted to become a member of my Baptist Church. I received salvation in the exact manner that every member of my Baptist Church received salvation by having embraced Jesus as Lord and Savior. NeedHim, My Baptist Pastor does not consider it sin to make the sign of the cross and to own a crucifix. There is a man who is a member of my Baptist Church and he wears a crucifix around his neck.
Dear John, If what you say is true, then I suggest you leave the Baptist Church and look for another that won't water down the Gospel or allow you to be deceived into thinking that fellowship with Rome is not a big deal. Your soul is at stake and it's time for you to grow up.