For instance:

“And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:2‬ ‭

The streaming services help, but are not the same as regular church attendance.

You did it so I will too! I know that isn’t very Christian of me and multiple post is frowned upon. I just wanted to point out that the Holy Spirit was given by the disciples through the laying on of hands.

Or should I call you Dr. Harsh? Let me address the text and some of your misconceptions first.

As you point out, a disciple is a follower. However, people first decide to follow Jesus before they learn to observe all that He has commanded us. Discipleship is a process which starts with trusting in Christ.

1) Go
2) Preach to make disciples
3) Baptize
4) Teach

You have people saved before baptism which is wrong.

“He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:16‬

You can’t be saved unless you have been baptized into Christ. In fact, you don’t belong to God if you haven’t been baptized.

“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭8:9‬ ‭

Now the question of whether the disciples of Christ ever could baptize.

As soon as a sinner hears the preaching of the gospel and decides to follow Christ, they are baptized into the body of Christ and saved.

The way to make disciples out of sinners is by preaching the gospel to them. Once they decide to follow Jesus they are baptized.

“Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:16‬

Sure sounds like whoever believes and is baptized will be saved! Why wrangle with the plain meaning of the text? Just believe it!

The verse you gave in Romans 6 kind of proves my point. For if we are not baptized into Christ we have not died to sin and sin remains.

“For one who has died has been set free from sin.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:7‬

If we have not been baptized into Christ then we don’t belong to Him.

They couldn’t baptize without first going and making disciples. Then they were commanded to teach everything Jesus taught them to observe. Funny how baptism is not one of those things, huh?!

There is no other way to be saved then to be baptized.

“Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:16‬

So it’s not that saved people ought to be baptized, it is that they are baptized already.

So Christians arguing about the mode of baptism is silly because there is no mode or ordinance to it.

Why is baptism singled out as something different than things which are to be observed?

“Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age."”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:19-20‬

2) Why did Philip baptize the Ethiopian eunuch?

1) John’s baptism was for repentance.

“John appeared, baptizing in the wilderness and proclaiming a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:4‬

It was to prepare the people for the Messiah.

“I myself did not know him, but for this purpose I came baptizing with water, that he might be revealed to Israel."”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:31‬

So why was Jesus baptized by John the Baptist?

“John would have prevented him, saying, "I need to be baptized by you, and do you come to me?" But Jesus answered him, "Let it be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness." Then he consented.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭3:14-15‬

Jesus was submitting Himself to the command of God to be baptized although He had nothing to repent of. It was to fulfill the righteous requirements of God.

Very good link, I think everyone should read it! However, I think he is still wrong. Although I don’t agree with everything he says about it, Jack Cottrell wrote a very good book on the subject also. Entitled, “Baptism A Biblical Study”.

One of the things that Jack points out in his book that Rugh misunderstands is:

“And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age."”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18-20‬

The Bible says there is only one baptism:

“one Lord, one faith, one baptism,”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4:5‬

Just as there is only one Lord and one faith, there is only one baptism. John said after his baptism with water would come the one who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.

“I have baptized you with water, but he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit."”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:8‬

We are saved by Jesus, not ourselves, but it is our choice to open the door or not.

Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me.
Revelation 3:20

John UK...

Faith is an act if obedience.

Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness?
Romans 6:16

The gospel enlightens and brings about conviction of sin.

For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Romans 10:13‭-‬14‭, ‬17

After hearing the gospel and believing is when one is sealed with the Holy Spirit.

In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,
Ephesians 1:13

The "quickening" that you talk about only happens when a believer is placed in Christ.

even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,
Ephesians 2:5‭-‬6

People put on Christ after they believe.

For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Galatians 3:26‭-‬27