Praxis wrote:
I am an amillennialist like the Reformers!

Joe the Protestant wrote:
Rob Bell; the Emerging church pastor of mars hill, isn't far behind this vicar.

Ivor wrote:
to continue
We used to believe the unsaved would be punished for sin by having to spend an eternity in a place called hell being tormented forever. We therefore deduced that, in order to pay for the sins of the believers, Christ had to endure the equivalent of spending an eternity in hell. However, now we know that the unsaved will not spend an eternity in hell. The punishment for sin is eternal death, both body and soul. Once this world has been destroyed, the unsaved will completely cease to exist (see Study on Hell).
To fully pay for the sins of the believers, Christ would have had to be put through the equivalent of eternal spriitual death. We can’t fully comprehend this, but it would have to have been a resurrection from the equivalent of annihilation. This is why Christ is spoken of as being begotten. He is from eternity past, but He had a beginning in that He came back from the equivalent of annihilation. That is how He was begotten and that is why the Father can accurately refer to Him as His begotten Son.

Samantha wrote:
I as Fred suggested did visit the latter rain site and found that Fred is correct and here is why.
Christ is from eternity past. In order to be begotten He had to have a beginning. In order to have a beginning He had to, in a spiritual sense that we can’t understand, be spiritually dead. This is what happened when He paid for the sins of the believers. He paid the penalty all unsaved individuals must eventually pay: eternal death, both body and soul.
Christ finished the work of paying for sins before this world was created:
Now John you still owe apologizes to
"all"those that you have called names.
Samantha