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 11/16/12 7:25 AM |
| Marty | | USA | |  |  |
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The last article I posted is a helpful tool. Here's another article someone recommended, but I haven't had a chance to read yet (work, family life, etc):http://www.ditext.com/livingston/tradition.html (I do not endorse this article, since I haven't read it, but you can get a jump start if you have time - I plan to read it later). That aside, I have no roots in the south. I spent most of my life in the Land of Lincoln, and some in Springfield's surrounding area. I have nothing for or against Lincoln. The Temple of Zeus (i.e. Lincoln Memorial) they made for him hasn't changed the fact that he is still a man, capable of being wrong sometimes (e.g. with respect to faith, his family is known for Spiritualism). My church, abolitionist historically, left the south over slavery. I have no horse in this race, no desire to justify kidnapping and racial slavery. I'm only interested in sticking up for one of the means of liberty God has given us... the separation of powers. I don't want history to be changed, since Christ is King over history and the course of nations. I do value a decentralized government and the tools used to make it happen (e.g. secession rights, gun rights, etc). A central government with nothing to fear is a dangerous thing. |
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| 11/15/12 7:56 PM |
| marty | | usa | | | |
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Neil,In good faith, I complement you for doing that research, in order to add more to this conversation. It's commendable. That said, why interpret a legal document to be more draconian, causing it to contradict an early article? Notice article II: "Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled." See that? Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom and indep. After that, upon close examination, there is a break with the word "and." Only the powers, jurisdictions, and rights can be delegated away, but sovereignty, freedom and independ. are not granted away. So, what of this "perpetual" business? A fair question, one that I can answer with a less contradictory reading of the Articles. Now, in law, are certain legal entities perpetual... yes, corporations have an indefinite life. Now, can shareholders leave a corporation? Yes, they can. Just because someone can leave an entity, doesn't mean it isn't perpetual. The Articles were perpetual in that they didn't need to be renewed. Here the author takes a different route than me on the Articles(point 9): http://www.endusmilitarism.org/secessionlegality.html |
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