Michael Hranek wrote: John UK Wales Good points Which ties in with the poisonous influence of "cessationism", that God really doesn't do the supernatural today, like is written about in the Bible, a defacto (if this is the right term) prohibition against of even looking for Him to really be there, in His manifest presence, in your life.
You've just demonstrated that you don't understand cessationism.
James Thomas wrote: Sorry to you "huh" for not responding to your question. Let me attempt to do as .
See James this is why you or anyone else can't just throw out Bible verses as "proof" because none of the verses you quoted say that God predetermines the action of everyman, nobody is saying God doesn't work in circumstances and individuals to specifically work His will, like the virgin birth for instance, what no verse says is that God foreordains every action of every person and you can't produce one in your response, it will always be a specific person, people or circumstance.
I wish I had a nickel for every time I spoke with some who continuously use verses about fellowship,dicipleship,etc. and mistaking them as for verses about salvation. Note; you must be saved first before you can be a diciple. Salvation and works are two totolally different things. It's funny how so many act as though they're a theologian but can't even understand what they reading.
I pointed out in verse 13. That says he is. You keep pointing out that his heart was not right with God. There's plenty of born-again beleivers who's hearts are not right with God. Meaning they're living in the flesh and not in the spirit. Also yes the devils do believe, but remember that salvation is not offered to them.
Better yet, Kirk could instead of trying to discuss fornication and adultery, he could instead give the gospel and try to lead some of the lost in the church's to Christ. To be honest there are many who sit in church every week and still don't know Christ, it's sad.
I always see these videos of preachers holding up signs at college campuses refering to adulterers, fornicators, and homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of heaven but completely fail to present the saving gospel. How stupid for a professing christian to tell someone they're going to hell but never tell them how to be saved. Just plain stupid, maybe it's because they're lost them selves
John Yurich wrote: On a Democratic Party discussion forum I told a homosexual man that unless he repented of his homosexuality and embraced Jesus as his Savior that he would be going to Hell for all eternity. Is that the only sin he needs to repent of? Why didn't you tell him to repent of all of his sins then embrace Jesus as his savior?