Well Jim, even though you must be aware that no one believes anything you say or quote has any spiritual value, I will comment on your post.
1.Rape is not a reason for an abortion. If you truly thought the unborn was a human, then you would realize that human did nothing to be murdered. Adoption would be the solution; not murder.
2.Abortion because of gender is something that the Chinese would do. Your health care thoughts lean towards socialism and communism.
3.Abortion is the product of feminists who did not want to become pregnant, but had sex anyway. See how easy the truth is? Men such as you empowered them to do the abominable.
4.I agree; it is rare when rich or famous women have abortions. That is simply eugenics played out in our society. Margaret Sanger would be proud of you.
5.Since I am older, I clearly remember when abortion was illegal and if done had to be done in âback alleysâ. If I had my way, those women would have either died during the procedure or been prosecuted for murder.
6.Why do you think it took so many years to make abortion legal and acceptable? Did the bible change? Why did our society change?
7.The solution to your satanic thoughts is to let the bible define cultural mores; not the other way around.
Years ago, I read a book on the rapture. The author stated either in the book or elsewhere that after reading his book, he got lots of phone calls that stated the readers could no longer support pre-tribulation rapture. The fellow had sent notes to clergy and professors prior to publishing his book. When asked whether or not they would publicly change their positions, they said they couldnât do that because they would lose their jobs as pastors or professors. If Iâm not mistaken, professors at Moody were noted.
Since as most of you know, I lean towards being cynical, this article doesnât surprise me in the least. Professional clergy or professors who are simply hirelings will âusuallyâ protect their own interests at the expense of truth. Sad, but true.
Christopher000 wrote: The thing that makes this so odd is that it's not like somebody bumped the mass warning button. The person had to click to confirm the warning to be sent out. Strange. Reminded me of the War of the Worlds radio broadcast that made people think planet earth had been invaded by aliens.
Yes Chris, the whole thing is illogical. It would seem that whatever took place was intentional. My guess is an employee wanted his day of fame, but we will have to wait to find out the specifics. Something like this is inexcusable and the fear it must have caused folks is something I canât relate to. What about the old folks and those taking care of them. What did they do in those few minutes? What about those who had children in day care?
The whole thing truly is bizarre, but my guess is whatever really took place will come out. But, to say that it was accidental sounds really silly to me.
I also think we will see lots of law suits in the near future.
Ladybug wrote: From God's word... Titus 2 - Older women, likewise, are to be reverent in their behavior, not slanderers or addicted to much wine, but teachers of good. In this way they can train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, managers of their households, kind, and subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be discredited.âŚ It is obvious Palin is rebelling against God's word, along with tons of other women caught in the lie of feminism.
Thanks for your comment sister Ladybug!
Yes, and let me add that of course all Christians are called to be teachers of good.
Yes, older women should train the younger women. IMO the implication is they themselves have already walked the walk.
Yes, older women should teach younger women to love their husbands and children.
Yes, older women should teach the younger women to be self controlled, pure, managers of their households, kind and subject to their own husbands.
Nothing feminist at all in the above.
All of it revolves around a womanâs place in society. I also like the fact that your scripture didn't note feminine attributes. That is the general rule, not the exception.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: This headline had been repeated several times during the last several quarters of the previous administration. (so much for the rich aren't paying their fair share, of these record taxes top 1% pay approximately 40% and top 10% pay over 70% of all this revenue) IT IS A SPENDING PROBLEM!! Not holding breath for Congress to cut spending anytime soon. If they'd simply cut the rate of growth that would be a step in the right direction. Good to see the President trimming government and government regulations down.
Yes brother, it is indeed a spending problem. But, let me add a greed problem as well. Politician now teach that greed is good, but of course scripture says it is a form of idolatry.
Donald Trumpâs view of personal debt: âIâm the king of debt. Iâm great with debt. Nobody knows debt better than me,âNow admittedly he was referring to his personal business dealings.
And of course, we know that on occasion he filed bankruptcy, so he also felt it was okay, not to pay back personal loans.
Now, if I ran my household finances in the same manner that our country handles its debt, then my lifestyle would collapse.
I tend to ignore, but understand when others donât, female and male attributes when I am pondering gender roles in society. An example is a woman may in fact be more qualified for a position than a male, but does that mean she should hold that position? Egalitarianism would say yes, but complementarianism would say no. A feminist will argue they are qualified to letâs say be president, but IMO, she shouldnât hold a political office â period. Her qualifications/attributes have nothing to do with it. The below and most scriptures donât refer to attributes at all. And it certainly applies to positions outside a church setting.
Isaiah 3:12 As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.
A male might say since his wife can earn 3 times what he can earn, he will stay home with the kids and let his wife be the bread winner. I would say no simply because he is a male. Works both ways!
I remember Sarah Palin saying if anyone believes a woman should stay home with the kids when she has something to contribute to society, they were Neanderthals. That is a form of feminism that even born again believers accept.
Christopher000 wrote: Thank God for the freedoms that we do have here. Regardless of the church, God is being assaulted like never before, and His Word being outlawed, even here within the US. Then, there is the utter blasphemy going on where people are getting stoned during services, sodomites and lesbians are not only being welcomed just as they are, but they are actually standing behind pulpits, preaching Christ, repentance, and salvation, and so many others where His Word is being treated as antiquated, as they roll with the times of man, and accepting mamy wicked things.
2 Timothy 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
Curran joined the fight better prepared than most. Inspired by her parentsâ pro-life activism, she attended two pro-life boot camps hosted by the Catholic Diocese of Dallas. Later, she heard a presentation from Students for Life President Kristan Hawkins, who talked about the need for pro-life high-school leaders.
The above is from the article.
However, if they donât get the above right, then there is no spiritual value to what they are doing. If a catholic protests outside an abortion clinic, lives may be saved but no fruit has been borne.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: Obamacare in full force during this time and no woman mentioned a word about lack of adequate health insurance or prenatal care.
Hey Luke 17:10! Jim really is something else. Those who maintain that women have some justification for murdering their unborn babies are in effect making them victims. I know women are weaker vessels, but to say that they can be coerced into getting an abortion makes them weaker in ways scripture doesn't do. There is never justification to murder, especially an innocent unborn child.
Iâm glad you brought up the healthcare issue. He often raises that because of his thoughts about universal healthcare. In my family, I am the only one of 3 children that was born in a hospital. My family obviously didnât have a lot of money and midwives were often used. What I guess I am saying is his healthcare and financial arguments are just plain silly.
Jeremiah 5:22 Fear ye not me? saith the LORD: will ye not tremble at my presence, which have placed the sand [for] the bound of the sea by a perpetual decree, that it cannot pass it: and though the waves thereof toss themselves, yet can they not prevail; though they roar, yet can they not pass over it?
Genesis 8:22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.
Psalms 93:1 The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, [wherewith] he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved. 2 Thy throne [is] established of old: thou [art] from everlasting.
Revelations 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
The Lord Himself will destroy this current earth in due time. We canât speed that up or slow it down.
Jon wrote: Once again there is nothing new under the sun; the spooky ritualistic "satanism" is nothing but a distracting smokescreen to cover the real destructiveness of the adversary; that being the feminist, sensual worldview that is actually ancient and embodied in the ashteroth worship so soundly condemned in scripture. There is a reason why the ultimate false religious/worldview system is portrayed is a woman riding the beast in the book of Revelation. Satan being the "god of this world" has always focused on narrowing mankinds attention, and desires to the here and now knowing that any who truly loved the real God would focus on worshipping Him in spirit and truth, even if it cost them their life in this world.
Well said Jon; thanks for your comment. Yes, we are all called upon to resist unto death if necessary.
Jim Lincoln wrote: Tony, your antisemitism is showing again. It should be pointed out that Alan flipped from being liberal to conservative, so one might discount early behavior of such people, but not of people who don't change.... I don't quote from this source very often, it is the oldest self-declared liberal sources in this country. It did have this interesting article, however, I would recommend it to Alan Dershowitz at the very least to read it. --https://tinyurl.com/khyad8a (A Warning From History)!
Alan identified himself as being a liberal on a FOX broadcast last week. He also sometimes identifies himself as a libertarian. NOT A CONSERVATIVE.
But yes, sometimes he has conservative thoughts. That would be the same as saying since you sometimes correctly quote Christian thoughts; that makes you a Christian.
All politics, liberal and conservative or something in between are simply different shades of the same color.
They can say what they want and believe what they want, but "claimed" ignorance is not bliss!
And yes, I considered and pondered this verse before I posted! Romans 2:1.Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another 16.In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
"[Over] 49 percent reported believing the fetus was a human being at the time of the abortion, 66 percent said they knew in their hearts that they were making a mistake when they underwent the abortion, 67.5 percent revealed that the abortion decision was one of the hardest decisions of their lives, and 33.2 percent felt emotionally connected to the fetus before the abortion."
The above is from the article.
My guess is if we could genuinely get into the hearts of these feminist murderers, we would find that 100 percent of them understood the baby in the womb was really life. That would be something that everyoneâs conscience would understand. They may have stated doubt, but our heavenly Father can see into their hypocrisy.
But, it is clear that these women simply disregarded truth and chose to murder as a convenience to them. What a terrible thing it would be to live with the reality of what they have done, but my guess is that feeling of remorse and doubt simply disappears in most as their hearts are hardened.
I once watched a documentary of TV where a fellow was posing as a homosexual and he went into Muslim bakeries and asked them to make a wedding cake for him and his whatever. I donât remember the percentage, but the vast majority told him they would not do that because they didnât support same sex marriage. This means practically:
1. Homosexuals would not dare ask a Muslim baker to do that. 2. If they did, they would never dare to sue them.
Observer wrote: Hmmm Considering you support the party that promoted slavery, segregation, jim crow laws etc it's a bit rich for you to stand on your high horse looking down at the party that opposed all those things. Maybe a "History of the Dem party" 101 course would be a good place for your re-education? On second thoughts scrap that idea. I really do believe you are beyond being educated. You need the new birth!
Well said brother! There is nothing we can say that will convince Jim of his lack of salvation. Only the Spirit has the power to do that.
I used to envision him getting a blank look on his face; shaking his head a couple of times and then just marching on.
Jim Lincoln wrote: I will point out there are many frivolous attacks on Trump. For example, one I just read yesterday, is almost silly, actually I will say it is silly,
Jim, your psychological ploys will not work here. Most of the posters on this forum are born again believers which mean we have discernment and can see through your worldly agenda. Your method is similar to a good cop, bad cop scenario although your technique is more sophisticated. If memory serves me correctly you once mentioned that you had a masters degree in psychology.
I know that I and Shane have asked you in the past if you are a paid troll or simply a troll. I donât remember you answering that, but your answer is pretty much irrelevant. Keep the below paragraph in mind.
One plain and simple spiritual statement uttered by a poor impoverished humble servant of God has more power and glorifies God more than all of the books ever written by liberal theologians, scholars, philosophers and anyone else of their ilk.
Christopher000 wrote: Frank Wrote: "...A moral and just society would prosecute those women and doctors who have or perform abortions for murder." Hi Frank, you got that right. What a barbaric nation and world, and talk about utter blindness. Like I said to Dolores earlier, while expounding on her comment...murder a baby just moments before a delivery, and life goes on...no big deal. Murder that same baby moments after delivery, and that night on the national news, the talking heads are trying to figure out what happened to you as a child that you could commit such an heinous act. I know I've repeated the scenario before, but it's just crazy to consider the hipocrisy. One of those "simple but true" things you brought up one time that I had never even considered is why father's don't have any say in the murder of a child. The mother can arrive home one day and simply say, "Oh, by the way, no new baby boy next week...I decided to abort. I wasn't ready".
Hey Chris! In a secular, worldly sense, I blame abortions primarily on feminism. It is a woman's way of saying, "see look how powerful I am". Or, it's my body, etc.
Who else has the power to decide life and death outside a court room.