Kev wrote: Like I have always said you show me where I am unkind to someone and I'll apologize.
When I returned to the board, GSMontana warned me you use multiple IDs. I really liked GS, in fact I tried to chase him away from the witches here, and I succeeded. He actually is Christian and didn't belong here.
I trust his opinion, and using multiple IDs to promote a view is 'unkind'
Kev wrote: John Y actually I believe meant what he said about the Catholic doctrine of salvation being different then the Protestant:
If you are going to hold him to that, I imagine you should rebuke the unholy trinity, their temple prostitutes and Lurker. Because they all have repeatedly denounced him and his views of one of an ignorant autistic person (it wasn't just an vain internet insult, many if not all believe he is or might be autistic)
If he is as they say, and you keep silent, your arguments will be held against you in judgment and I'm a witness to your evil
Kev wrote: You say you 'learned the Evangelical Protestant doctrine of salvation', this statement by simple reasoning means that the doctrine of salvation by 'Protestants' is different from the Catholic's. Wouldn't this be 'another Gospel':
Not answering for JohnY, but I think he meant the Protestant UNDERSTANDING of the doctrine of salvation. He didn't mean Catholics had a different path of salvation
JuneAnnette wrote: sister ladybug . . Rambling on is precisely what he does. This was his response when asked by Kev the following . . Kev wrote: Have you ever felt a time of regeneration in your life Steve where your love for things changed or do you believe you are in covenant since you were baptized as an infant? Maybe you can give us the testimony of a Presbyterian and your life experience. I don't share my testimony with demons and the wicked. I have plenty of actual Christian brothers and sisters I can share and grow with ----- He cannot speak of what the Lord has done for him. For those upon whom the Lord has wrought a good work cannot hold their peace. But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world."
1) I missed that, but I have a Church Family for such intimate discussions. Many here don't, but they should find Church Families. Their testimony here sounds fake 2) If I disclosed it here, you would never believe how awesome it is. I tell you of earthly things, and you don't believe. How can you understand heavenly things? 3) When in So CA I offered to meet with Kev, he avoided my invitation
John Yurich USA wrote: Well I was raised by my Catholic parents to read the Bible almost every day. I was also raised to watch Billy Graham Crusades on Television where I learned the Evangelical Protestant doctrine of salvation. Dave, It is hard to believe that you and your siblings were not encouraged to read the Holy Bible. Like I stated above when I was growing up I was encouraged by my Catholic parents to read the Holy Bible almost every day. I know the outline of the Bible so well that I can go to any book in the Bible within a matter of seconds.
You were Blessed with good parents JohnY. Not everyone was so blessed, so the wicked ones take it out by slandering the RCC, an 'abusive' Protestant Church, an old relationship, the government etc....
Mike wrote: The gates of hell shall not prevail means the church is to be aggressive against it. How does one confront evil without confronting the lost who are lost in it? Evil isn't an abstraction, nor does it happen by itself. Whatever the thoughts on megaphones, about which Christopher expressed my own, the reason for the reaction is, evil doesn't want any noise that competes with it. btw, it's hardly whining to relay the facts about what went on. Anyone think Paul was whining when he told of his beatings, or being stoned, or being shipwrecked?
Well Mike, I didn't grow up in the Church. Rather GOD embraced me and gave me a commission to read HIS WORD in its entirety, untainted by any specific Church teaching. And I still don't understand the common Christian view that Matt 16:18 refers to breaking into hell and fighting evil. Isnt hell, and the Lake of Fire, where we eventually send all evil for eternity? Why are we breaking down its gates?
No , MY LORD means that the Church will prevail against SIN and DEATH. It means that even DEATH and the grave cant keep HIS people from him
Ignominious Emirakan wrote: 9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth Foundation of Rome- the city of seven hills. [URL=/information/religions/catholicism/sevenhills.asp]]]2000 years Rome known as the city on seven hills[/URL] Foundational to basic discussion
Its sad when people change Bible versions for the sake of Slander. Its MOUNTAINS in the KJV
Revelation 17:9 ¬† And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
edit: ALERT! I just looked up the list of cities that claim to be built on 7 hills. I saw all the normal ones like Jerusalem, Instanbul, Athens but another popped up from the crowd
Providence, Rhode Island, built on Christian Hill, College Hill, Constitution Hill, Federal Hill, Smith Hill, Tockwotten Hill, and Weybosset Hill.
OH NO!!! Chris is the ANTICHRIST!! Everyone just shelter in place. I will try too appease him with some vegemite
Bruce Gourley has a great website outlining Baptist Persecution in Colonial America with links to original documents. btw--Colonial Williamsburg current court case highlights the Puritan Version of Religious Liberty in Colonial Virginia. Its a neat place to take your kids or grandkids because its so easy to combine Jamestown and Yorktown
Kev wrote: The verse you are talking about is from Mark 7 Jesus found more than the fault of unbelief in the Pharisees. Look at the verses before the verse I gave for context: Mark 7 6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. 7 Howbeit in VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP me, teaching for DOCTRINES the COMMANDMENTS OF MEN. 8 For laying aside the COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, ye hold the TRADITION OF MEN, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
Perhaps some Catholics are worshipping in vain(like some Protestants), perhaps some RCC leaders are vainly leading(like some Protestant leaders), but I have a difficult time believing the entire RCC institution is Satanic
Personally I think the RCC is the foundation of Protestant belief, a foundation that was revived because of the Reformation
Christopher000 wrote: Steve, I've always noticed that you work real hard to justify and rationalize. I know you can't deny the church being replete with fatally false doctrines, so it seems that you dig deep in order to justify, and maybe feel better about those you know who are immersed in the system. We all know that most churches, I'd say, have minor to major glitches, some doctrinal, some not, but no amount of good can be used to justify and rationalize, proudly teaching doctrines which are diametrically opposed to God's Word. No amount of good deeds adds any weight to the balance when God's Word is being foreshadowed, and even trumped, by the doctrines and traditions of man. The way I see it is that God left us His Word for good reason, and because He did, we are left without any excuse in the end. How can any one of us even claim ignorance when he's made all we need to know so clear?
You are a true warrior Chris, because you know how to pigeonhole me and get me to admit my views. As I have said before, I do disdain RCC idolatry and a few other issues less so. But does that make them nonChristian? and Satanic?
Ive seen people in the RCC, and they are a lot better people than I am
Kev, Pharisees got one thing wrong, not accepting that Jesus was the Messiah. The rest was a righteousness smokescreen to conceal their wickedness and unbelief. Even after knowing that HE rose from the grave, they couldn't accept HIS kingship. That doesn't seem to be an issue with the RCC.
GODs people aren't perfect(yet), only 2 of the seven Churches in Revelations even come near being good