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John UK...

If you think election is the determining factor for some kids going to Hell and others going to Heaven (you can never claim to not be a Calvinists again!), where does that concept come from? The recesses of your mind? Pay attention to who the elect are:

What then? Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking. The elect obtained it, but the rest were hardened,
Romans 11:7

The elect are the ones who have already obtained righteousness. Unbelievers are still considered unrighteous. There isn't any scripture that calls nonChristians the elect. They always believe.


News Item7/12/18 8:33 AM
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What J4 would say is suffered the consequences of their parents sins and not their guilt.

News Item7/12/18 7:42 AM
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We all know how David's baby died and went to Heaven. I think that is the case for all children who are innocent.

Some of the Pharisees near him heard these things, and said to him, "Are we also blind?" Jesus said to them, "If you were blind, you would have no guilt; but now that you say, 'We see,' your guilt remains.
John 9:40‭-‬41

Children in essence are blind and therefore innocent of any sin until they reach an age of accountability.

He shall eat curds and honey when he knows how to refuse the evil and choose the good.
Isaiah 7:15


News Item7/11/18 5:50 PM
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Unprofitable Servant...

"1) Why do men choose sin? 2) Why do babies speak lies as soon as they come out of the womb? 3) Why did David acknowledge sin nature at birth? The fact that we don’t sin after the similitude of Adam does not negate a sin nature. Your own text in Romans 5 proves you wrong."

1) It pleases us in our flesh to do so at the time.

2) I've never seen a baby come out of the womb lying. I'll have to take your word for it! If they sin against their conscience, then they become sinners.

3) I believe, like Luther does, that David's mother was a sinner. It's not talking about his actions but rather his conception which he had nothing to do with.

Now if you are saying, like John UK I believe is saying, that we aren't guilty of Adam's sin in the garden but that we inherited a sinful nature from him and become guilty of sin when we actually sin, then I think that is biblical. I believe the Bible teaches babies are born innocent.


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Unprofitable Servant...

The few verses you gave as prooftext don't really show what you are insisting they do.

For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.
1 Corinthians 15:22

Instead than saying we are guilty because of Adam's sin, it says we have all faced the consequences of his sin which is death. Consequence and blame are two different things.

Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned— for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come.
Romans 5:12‭-‬14

Adam is to blame for the spread and consequence of sin. However, our sins aren't like the transgression of Adam. Our sin is different then his was. We are not guilty of his sin. It even says that sin is not counted where there is no law. There isn't even a law for us not to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil so we can't even be guilty of sinning in that way.


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John UK...

It shows how God distributes blame. Think about it, the world was judged in Noah's day because of their own sin and not because of Adam's. You would have a just God create everyone a sinner because of Adam's sin and then blame them for their father's sin contrary to His plain teaching.


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Here is just one example:

"Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.
Deuteronomy 24:16

We are not guilty for what someone else did. Yet there are some of you who would say no Lord, we are guilty of sin because of Adam. Think about this too, it is not in the character of God to be unfair and blame you for someone else's sins. He can find enough on you that it's enough to send you to Hell. He doesn't need to scrounge up someone else's sin to blame you for.


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except...

You could have just taken the high road and assumed I went to those links and read them and still disagree with you, but nooo not you. I guess it's easier for some to sling mud!

Again, it's questionable whether some of those Catholic saints meant what they said in some kind of original sin way. Even if they did, it still wouldn't mean they were right if what they believe contradicts scripture. Wasn't your point that the doctrine of original sin wasn't Catholic anyways? You try to prove that by qouting Origin and Catholic saints? Lol.

Unprofitable Servant...

The verse says "so to speak". It's like, not really but kind of. Even though the descendants of Levi who became priest were descendants of Abraham and received tithe from other descendants, they kind of paid tithe through Abraham. They didn't actually. Just like you didn't actually sin because of Adam. You sinned when you disobeyed God your own self.


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except...

The concept of original sin can be traced back to St. "Catholic" Augustine, I think some of those earlier qoutes are taken out of context. Even if some of those pre-Augustine Catholics believed in a type of original sin, does that mean it's right according to scripture?

John UK...

I read the Institutes when I was like 16. I have read the Canons of Dordt and read a lot of the Ante-Nicene Fathers. I will still always side with scripture when men are wrong.


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John UK...
However you define it, you and the good ol' Catholic Church are in agreement!

I'm a Christian, kind of like the general Baptist. Protestants are those who protest the Catholic Church, such as yourself.


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John UK...

Are you on here promoting Catholic doctrine?! What kind of Protestant are you?


News Item7/10/18 3:39 AM
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The selfie he is looking for is the gospel message. They didn't have smartphones back then so they gave an account of who God was that whoever believes in Jesus may be saved.

That being said, I get his confusion over the Catholic doctrine of original sin.


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Jim...

I agree with you that many founders were Freemasons and deist. Two things though. One, many Freemasons are not told the full truth until around level 33 or something like that so I think some true believers could get caught up in it temporarily. Secondly, even if they were not all Christians, they spoke as Christians to get the Christian vote. I believe what made our nation Christian is the amount of Christians there were here and not the Declaration of Independence or rulers we had.


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Jim can speak for himself, but I don't think he was promoting Freemasonry. He was pointing out that many of the founding fathers were Freemasons.

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President Trump has predetermined to work with the new Mexican president-elect who was selected by the people to become president. Reminds me of the time God selected the faithful for salvation and they became the elect of God. Mr. Obrador asked to become president just like we must ask to be saved.

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ILLS, lol, I like that. Hillsong is classified as CCM. That must stand for Carnal Christian Music!

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Dr. Tim...

Reminds me of my union!


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Cora...

I have to believe he has read the Bible so he must know. He either doesn't want to believe in a place so horrible or he cares more about pleasing the masses. Either way, whatever his motivation for not teaching the truth, he is wrong.


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Isn't socialism the logical next step after democracy? Then communism.

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I remember seeing Little House On the Prairie on TV and don't remember it being racist. Maybe I missed the episode or two that supposedly was.
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