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John UK...

Sure, the whole counsel of God. As in:

That was the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world.
John 1:9

Jesus has been revealed to all men. Now in the case of Simon Peter, the Father showed a true believer in Him that this man that he saw and heard was the Messiah. It was a different time then now because Jesus was converting over all who previously believed in God in the O.T. to faith in Him. The last I checked, revealing something and forcibly making someone do something are two different things. Like I said, Peter already being a believer in God naturally believed in Jesus once he knew who He was.

English lesson...

The verse says, "God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through". Therefore, it is talking about the means.


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John UK...

Yes, revealed to the whole world.

For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,
Titus 2:11

God's grace appears to all people through the appearing of Jesus Christ.

but has now been revealed by the appearing of our Savior Jesus Christ, who has abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel,
II Timothy 1:10

How did God choose to save the brethren? It says through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth. It is speaking to how He has decided to save people. Do you know of anyone who is saved apart from sanctification of the truth and believing the truth?! No, of course not. That is because that is how God decided to save folks. The Spirit is God's act of saving us and believing is what we must do to become saved by Him.


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John UK...

Ay yi yi! Quit with the federal headship nonsense. There isn't such a term or idea found in scripture. It is a figment of your imagination. Brainwashing by Calvinists!

If your only point was federal headship then there is nothing to be found here. You started using this passage to say God ordained that the elect were randomly selected by God prior to the creation of this world. That isn't what this verse is about either. Now you know. It is about Jesus and how God's grace is revealed in Him to the whole world and given by Him to those who believe.


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John UK...

but has now been revealed by the appearing of our Savior Jesus Christ, who has abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel,
II Timothy 1:10 NKJV

2 Tim. 1:10 actually does say He gave us Jesus Christ. It says God's grace had been revealed by the appearing of our Savior Jesus Christ. Why is that? That is because Jesus is God's grace as far as salvation is concerned. This says nothing about a federal headship. So where do you get that idea from? I know where!


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who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began, but has now been revealed by the appearing of our Savior Jesus Christ, who has abolished death and brought life and immortality to light through the gospel,
II Timothy 1:9‭-‬10

Yes, God's grace was given when He decided to give us Jesus Christ. Without Jesus we would have none to save us and nobody to place our faith in. He is the embodiment of God's grace and mercy to those who believe. Notice there is no mention of a federal headship, not here and not anywhere. So how can an unbeliever receive God's grace?


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John UK...

Maybe this is it in a nutshell. What do you suppose it means that God's grace was given to us in Christ? It's not salvation, not faith, not justification, not sanctification, not righteousness, so what exactly do you think His grace in Christ is? Believers weren't placed in Christ then. This verse makes no mention of God electing anyone so it can't be that. Sorry! Like I showed you already, God loved the world, decided to send His Son to save the world so that whoever believes would be saved.


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John UK...

Think again:

For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,
Titus 2:11

Good, you know God determined to give us grace in Christ before the world began. Now who is that grace for? All together now..."For all people"!

Also:

But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many.
Romans 5:15

How many people died as a result of Adam's sin? Yet God's grace abounds to more than just them. His grace is for the living and all of creation!

The fact that God determined to give us the Savior prior to the creation of the world doesn't erase the fact that we must believe in Him in order to be saved.

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
John 3:16‭-‬17


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John UK...

Of course it applies to more than those two faithful people. However, it still applies to only those who are believers in Christ. The verse, or any verse for that matter, never speaks of a top secret federal headship which you speak of. God determined to give us His Son before time began as an act of grace to all sinners so that whoever chooses to believe on Him may therefore receive eternal life. Jesus Christ is God's grace personified.


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John UK...

2 Timothy 2:10 KJV
Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Believers are going to obtain salvation. What Paul wanted was for it to be with eternal glory. With much eternal blessing and rewards.

No soldier gets entangled in civilian pursuits, since his aim is to please the one who enlisted him. An athlete is not crowned unless he competes according to the rules. It is the hard-working farmer who ought to have the first share of the crops.
2 Timothy 2:4‭-‬6


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John UK...

2 Timothy 1:9 KJV
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

You never seem willing or able to answer the simplest of questions. Oh well, ignorance is bliss I suppose!

God's grace is Jesus Christ Himself. You don't receive Jesus Christ (God's grace) until you have believed.

Who is the "us" being spoken to?

I am reminded of your sincere faith, a faith that dwelt first in your grandmother Lois and your mother Eunice and now, I am sure, dwells in you as well.
2 Timothy 1:5

Timothy and Paul who, wouldn't you know it, have faith.

So, Paul says God saved them, and called them with an holy calling, not according to their works, but according to His own purpose and grace, which was given them in Christ Jesus before the world began. Jesus was always going to be their Saviour from eternity past. However, they didn't receive Him unto themselves until they believed. They weren't in Christ before the world even began!

2 Timothy 2:10 KJV
Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Believers are going to obtain the s


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John UK...

I have already acknowledge that God decided to send His Son according to His purpose and grace before the world began that whoever believes in Him would not perish but receive eternal life.

Who do you suppose "us" is? Unbelievers?!

How do you suppose those people receive God's grace? Randomly?!

When do you suppose they receive God's grace? Before the world began?!

I'm afraid you try to irrationally rationalize scripture instead than having it interprete itself.


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JOHN UK...

I don't have a problem with God doing as He pleases. My problem is with your ungrounded assumption (really grounded in the philosophy of Calvinism) that God ordained unbelievers for eternal life in Acts 13:48. Remember the consequences of believing is eternal life. As I showed you in the previous post that you didn't pay attention to.

2 Timothy 1:9 KJV
(9) Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

It clearly says God's grace is given to us in Christ Jesus. At what time were you placed in Christ? Hmmm? Prior to faith?! No way! It was determined before the world began that salvation would be in Jesus and we are placed in Him after faith!

In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,
Ephesians 1:13

Believers are sealed in Christ after hearing the gospel and believing on Him for salvation. That is God's sovereign plan and purpose to do so, who are you to argue? You would rather God arbitrarily decide people's faces in some random fashion when God is far from random. He only ordains those who believe-ed!


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John UK...

Have you ever heard the story of the ruler?

And a ruler asked him, "Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?"
Luke 18:18

What was Jesus' response? Not, hey don't worry about it, if you're ordained to eternal life prior to faith you will inherit eternal life! Nooo, Jesus gave him a list of things to obey in order to inherit eternal life.

Or maybe you remember this passage:

And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have eternal life. "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
John 3:14‭-‬16

If you ask me why it is that one must believe before they are ordained to eternal life, it is because it is biblical. It says a couple of times whoever (that is anyone) believes in Him will have eternal life. Yet you keep thinking that nonsense about God granting eternal life prior to faith. Cut it out! Of course, if they are granted eternal life prior to faith, you are saying people are saved before believing!


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They were on their second or so week of hearing the gospel preached by their request. They had been formulating an opinion about the gospel and finally decided to believe. However, there is no salvation prior to faith. You have them saved prior to faith. Nonsense!

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John UK...

You mean the New Living Transliteration?! Everybody else interpreted the word "believe" wrong in the past tense, but the New Living Transliteration got it right? Yeah, sure.


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How would God be unjust for killing innocent children? Certainly the animals were innocent! If God wanted to end all life as we know it, it is within His prerogative to do so. He has the power to end life and the only reason anything exist is because He substains it. Was he supposed to let all of the children survive the flood and then starve to death afterwards? Talk about mean! God can remain just and still kill innocent babies.

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Alot of the arguments against the KJV seem to be speculative (implying some kind of wrong doing by the interpreters when we weren't there and don't know or implying their methods we're all wrong, etc.) or personal (not liking the archaic English). However, it has been used for along time now for the glory of God to spread the gospel. It's what I used growing up and I still learned from it even though I didn't speak like they did. I would even go so far as to say it is still better than most translations.

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Her congregation?

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John UK...

Acts 13:48 KJV
(48) And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

I don't know if the problem is the form of English that the Brits use. It's not quite right. However, in America, the word "believed" is understood to be in the past tense. It means they already believed when they were ordained to eternal life. That is the qualifier for them to be ordained. That is why none were ordained who did not believe. Do you really believe God ordains unbelievers to eternal life?

Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory." 2 tim 2:10

Paul wants believers to obtain their salvation with eternal glory. It's a given that believers will obtain their salvation. It's already theirs. Unbelievers don't obtain salvation nor eternal glory. Don't you see that?


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John UK...

1) if God says that some are "ordained to eternal life", that is one and the same as saying they are "elect". Note,

Acts 13:48 KJV
(48) And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

In other words, the elect of God (unknown to them at the time) believed the gospel and were saved. The point being that they were elect before they believed.

1) I see what you are trying to say but it doesn't seem to fit. Again, whenever the actual term "elect" is used, it is always believers or the elect nation of Israel. If the elect were anything else surely it would have been used in that manner to refer to unbelievers and it does not. Even in your example, it could be taken to mean the ones that were ordained for eternal life were believers and there were no others who were ordained. Thus leaving out any who did not believe.

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