Lurker wrote: OK, Steve, I know you have it in you to post civil and meaningful posts since I've witnessed your posts for many years. So I hope this little jab will suffice for the day. . . . Sister JA, Please don't read more into my comment to you than what I said. By all means continue following your calling. Far be it from me to interfere with what God has set in your heart. However, I can't help but wonder about your motivation. Is it to glorify God or silence SteveR? If the latter, it has only served to provoke him to more incivility. Think about it. . . . Kev, If you want to discuss holiness further, send me an email. Blessings to all.
I dunno Lurker, its been two whole days since I have had a post deleted. I don't know how much longer I make it
1 Peter 2:18 Â Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward.
Â Â 2 Peter 1:1 Â Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:
And why the ear was healed
Exodus 21:5 Â And if the servant shall plainly say, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free:
Â Â Exodus 21:6 Â Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever.
pennelope wrote: to all the brethren living overseas, you are getting the same Marxist based smear news that runs on our tvs here that most have turned off! here is the problem: normally in the first few days the nominess for sec of state, attorney general, etc are passed by congress. we believe in peaceful transitions so we let the pres pick his cabinet. now within their roles, the attorney general must operate independently, but it is the pres who picks the cabinet... the problem is the democrats, now in the minority, are stopping the appointee, Sessions for Attorney General.
I found a little gem in the Marxist talking points. In earlier threads I mentioned how Bannon, the minister of Propaganda in the Trump organization, was promoted to National Security Council while the Joint Chiefs was removed. BUT, one of the talking heads last night on CNN, a professor at georgetown?, mentioned that Bannon was a disciple of Saul Alinsky! I didn't know that. And how this administration will use chaos to achieve goals. If you are familiar with Sauls tactics, they use your knowledge against you and makes it a liability
And you know what? It works. I still don't understand the circus of this past weekend
Lurker wrote: Sister JA, We all have our callings.... yours to expose the darkness of the RCC...... mine theology. I've patiently held my peace while in the past few months you've daily gone nose to nose with SteveR on many threads which had nothing to do with the subject matter of your posts. Now you're scolding us for discussing a matter of theology?OK Kev, 1 Peter 1:15-16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy. Peter quoted the Levitical Law: Lev 2:7 Sanctify yourselves therefore, and be ye holy: for I am the LORD your God. A lot could be said about Peter's citation from the Sinai covenant (before Calvary) but clearly the command to be holy has always been a command. The question is how and its worthy of your study.
Wait wait wait You don't understand Lurker, JA was exposing the RCC, so it was OK for her to go off topic. You on the other hand were only discussing Holiness for the benefit of edification, not to mention getting in her way
The obvious is always missed. Peter, a servant of the LORD, had the authority to carry a sword, but did not have the authority to use it without command. Its pretty surprising that people would use this as a Biblical justification to arm Christians in a tribal conflict.
I cant say if these are phony charges, prisoners to barter, or they were actually committing acts of espionage. But I have always asked myself, if part of a Christian mission I found people using it as a cloak to work against the country, how would I respond. Especially after I ask those engaged to stop those activities continued
Danny wrote: Really sucks for people like my wife and I who are in the process of building a new home and was just told we need more a down payment in order to compensate for this increase in mortgage insurance.... Not sure what the likelihood of this returning to the former mortgage insurance reduction but I hope it does!
I share your concern and grief. I felt buyers remorse for voting Trump shortly after the election, and a RE giant like Trump should know this type of government intervention is a sign of a RE top not support.
The good news is that mortgage rates are so low for now, even this wont hurt you. imo- this will look like a drop in the bucket for home buyers like yourself in just a few months
Christopher000 wrote: SteveR Wrote: "Are you saying that despite your ignorance, despite that being the house of satan, fruit of a Holy Marriage resulted?..." I've been hesitating to answer because you'll think I'm being evasive, and not sure how this would go unless you get the answer you're digging for. I understand the question, and your point clearly. My answer is that despite anything and everything, I'm married according to law, whether officiated by a priest, a Mormon, a justice of the peace, or a next door neighbor who ordered their license online. Whether I comprised or not, and no matter who performed the rite of marraige, a legal, lawful marraige resulted, even though performed by a priest. That's the best I can do...
If I was digging, I found what I was looking for. I found a sincere answer
What an article title! So instead of saying FHA borrowers will have to pay 25% more than they thought for bankster insurance, its a move that reduces the chance of a RE meltdown. That has to be the new minister of propaganda, Bannon, at work
Whats next? disguising a Federal tax increase as
"Trump Adm moves to reduce chance of US debt default"
pennelope wrote: SteveR, speculate all you want about the neocons coming from liberal ideology because they did.. but you aren't doing your work on this and just speculating, there's a long list of names and groups and they are all in opposition to American sovereignty which is trump's position - make America great again is an oppositional statement to agenda 21 and globalism and the money behind calexit are those who have pushed global warming, agenda 21, globalism. the contrast is stark and clear.
I think you are saying just because Neocon liberals allied with conservatives, it doesn't mean that the la raza type groups, silicon elites, Caleexit, agenda21 aren't different. There are some distinctions, Neocons sacrifices some ideals, to achieve projects like the PNAC
I cant think of anything that could be more interesting than watching la raza type groups, silicon elites, Caleexit, agenda21 and other liberals actually agreeing on anything but a perverted social culture. The only thing that keeps them united is intense hostility of conservatives, the last thing they can achieve negotiating among themselves is a successful succession & new government
Their main power is disdain of the right, a power they lose leaving the Union
pennelope wrote: ...which would make sense if it wasn't leftists, la raza type groups, and silicon elites leading the charge. best thing to happen is to reveal to the public the information coming out to the millions of illegal and dead voting going on.... those in the northeast or Midwest may have no idea the state of things in the southwest, where even portions are designated as unvisitable due to drug traffic. how does Chinese financial banking in CA relate to the topic and the ports they would have?
1) I have always speculated extreme groups will ally with the other side when its In their interest. While the hard left might gain from the charade, the DNC as a whole would lose because DNC moderates would be pushed toward the new populist GOP
2) If anyone has ever been to CA, election time is truly nuts. Every vacant lot has dozens and dozens of signs because of long commutes, concentrated population and overlapping districts.
I would argue voter fraudsters in CA, voted Trump not Hillary. Why would professionals give away their hand? they would vote Trump and the DNC candidates for the local districts. Pros know they cant influence the POTUS election, but they sure can puff up the House of Rep and own the State legislature
Christopher000 wrote: I understand the concerns, but am gonna answer because I want to ask a followup question I'd really like to hear answered. When I got married, not only did I not know what I know now, but I also thought I had solved the issue of comprimise by shopping for an unusual priest who would basically do a Baptist style ceremony, stripped of everything Catholic. Problem is, I know that I still have to answer the question of it being performed under their roof and by one of their own. I was under an enormous amount of pressure and I was somewhat ignorant, but I still knew things weren't right. Bottomline is that knowing what I know now, I would never comprimise again, and I'm married in the eyes of the law, regardless of who officiated. Should I have truly been saved at the time, know what I know, and had really known better, I wouldn't have an answer, but I guess my simple answer has to be ignorance, to a degree, at the time.
Are you saying that despite your ignorance, despite that being the house of satan, fruit of a Holy Marriage resulted?
You don't have to answer if it makes you uncomfortable
Feel free to ask me the follow up question. And I hope you extend the same courtesy with answers
We are called to be Holy, so no question two becoming one flesh is not omitted from the command. So what this Holy is a RC thing?
Things can be Holy, Garments can be Holy, Places can be Holy, Sanctified things are Holy, Offerings are Holy, Prayers can be Holy
Leviticus 19:2 Â Speak unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say unto them, Ye shall be holy: for I the LORD your God am holy. Leviticus 10:10 Â And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean; Leviticus 21:7 Â They shall not take a wife that is a whore, or profane; neither shall they take a woman put away from her husband: for he is holy unto his God. Numbers 16:3 Â And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD?
Rodney, As you noted, I never said it was an Ordinance or a Sacrament in the Reformed Faith. But I think it should have been. One definition of sacrament is "a thing of mysterious and sacred significance; a religious symbol" That sounds like what we teach in the Reformed Faith RC Sproul "Every covenant is undertaken in the presence of witnesses. This is why we invite guests to our weddings. It is so they will witness our vowsâ€”and hold us accountable to keep them. It is one thing for a man to whisper expressions of love to a woman when no one will hear, but it is quite another thing for him to stand up in a church, in front of parents, friends, ecclesiastical or civil authorities, and God Himself, and there make promises to love and cherish her. Wedding vows are sacred promises made in the presence of witnesses who will rememberÂ them."
Reformed Christians have a duty to attend weddings and these SACRED vows, so I'm not disrupting. I'm just trying to understand you
BM It appears you are contradicting yourself, even same sex couples can now have valid marriages. I'm not talking 'valid,' I'm talking HOLY BIBLICAL unions. Do you perceive marriages in the RCC as HOLY?
Wayfarer Pilgrim wrote: The state of Texas joined the union of the United States, and thereby agreeing to Not seceed. California believes that they have a large population and will not agree with the results of the election, since they contributed 3 million votes to Hillary, they can and must walk away from the United States. That proposal will past, and will not become law. California is running a multi billion dollar deficit. Once they leave, they have to pay up, and they simply cannot afford to do so. That and their immigration policy will cause them to collapse. So yes, their values can carry them to a new world, but cost the state dearly as it will be swallowed up by Mexico. And in the end, California will be the United States' own Palestine. A refugee/terrorist warehouse disguised as a nation state.
They can have Mickey Mouse start up a Central Bank, and just print currency backed by Disney Theme Park Tickets