Neil wrote:
Imagine, a Democrat governor calling for nullification!

(The Jewish Race Knows Too Well How "National/Federal" Control Over The Masses/The People Is Just Another Totalitarian Plot to Enslave The Jews of America & The World; Like They Were Enslaved & Slaughtered Under The Third-Reich/Satanic-Vaticanist Inquisition Known As Hitler's Holocaust !)

Back in the 1860s; Another Former Democrat(ic) Statesman, A U.S. Vice-President, called for nullification too; and he served under a Republican President: His name was Andrew Johnson; and the President he served under was Abraham Lincoln !

(And, lo, The Satanic-Vaticanists of his day Also Plotted To Have Him "Impeached"; and then "Removed From Office".............But Their Conspiracy/Plot Miserably Failed.............By One Vote !)

This Present Day Fascist/Totalitarian/Covert-Satanic-Vaticanist Tyranny; under The Guise of a so-called "Federal Identification/Driver's License" Must Cease and Desist. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

lance (fork-tongue) eccles wrote:
'Fraid not.
It's the truth according to Jack Chick...

A: The CIA !

Q: And where did/does the CIA get its methods of torture ?

A: Well, back in 1947 when the CIA was Created out of the old U.S. OSS (Office of Strategic Services); some left-over Nazis/Fascists that escaped International Justice at The Nuremberg (Post WWII) Trials via The Satanic-Vaticanist/US-OSS-CIA "Ratlines"; brought over their Crusades/Inquistions/Holocaust torture methods that were successful in Nazi/Fascist/Vaticanist/Gestapo-"Jesuitic" Third-Reich Germany, Italy, Spain, Croatia, Etc. !

Q: Does The CIA Still Use Those Torture Methods in Our Present Enlightened 21st Century "Kindler & Gentler" George W. Bush (George H.W. Bush) Backed & Run Intelligence Communities ?

A: Yes !

Q: Does That Include The Method of Torture Known Internationally as "Water-Boarding" ?

A: Yes !

Q: Is The US, CIA, Satanic-Vatican Still in The Torture Business ?

A: Yes ! And They're Getting Into The *Guillotining Business Too ! ! ! ! ! !

22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.

23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things." Mark 13:21-23.

"Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not...

25 Behold, I have told you before.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Albeit, your reference(d) material is indeed held in question; as you are using a document, "Reversing the Reformation, The (Roman)Catholic/(New)Evangelical Accord Examined", which is Literally Riddled and Chock-Full of so-called "Biblical" quotations from A Satanic-Vaticanist Backed/Bought/Bogus 'Translation' (really Per-Version) of The Authorized Holy Bible:

The Satanic-Vaticanist Per-Version Called The "New American Standard Version/'Bible'" !

It was This Covert Satanic-Vaticanist Per-Version of The Authorized Holy Bible; which is Based On 2nd Century Heretical Arian/Alexandrian Perverted "New Testament" Greek Manuscripts and Codices Vaticanus/Sinaticus that I, while a student at Bob Jones University during the 1980s, had just about "shoved down my throat": instead of The God-Honored, God-Blessed & Heaven-Preserved Authorized "King James" Version of The Authorized Holy Bible/Scripture(s)-- which incidentially is Based on The Most Accurate, God-Honored, Christ Magnifying Orthodox/Trinitarian Byzantine New Testament Greek Manuscripts or Textus Receptus !

As In Their Hell-Spawned Deceptive Doctrine of Devils; which teaches that The Physical 'Temporal' Roman-"Church" Replaced The Physical Nation & State of "Israel"--

Such "Replacement" Theology Has Its Origins & Antecedents In Satanic-Vaticanist/Roman-"Catholic"-Cultic Excessive/Extreme Augustinian ("City of God") so-called "Covenant" Theology !

*NOTE: By The Way, This Satanic-Vaticanist/Roman-"Catholic"-Cultic so-called Excessive/Extreme Augustinian ("City of God") "Covenant" Theology; was Not TOTALLY Shaken-Off and/or Forsaken By Some Groups of Post-1517-Roman-"Catholic"-'Reformed'-'Protestantism':

Jim Lincoln wrote:
[URL=http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=jesuit]]]The Jesuit Oath Exposed[/URL].

Not to Mention Exposing The Authorized Biblical Literalist Truth on The White "Pope"; and/or The [Earth]"Beast" of Revelation 13:11-18 !

Remember, Authorized Biblical Literalist Saints; That it is The [Earth]"Beast" of Rev.13:11-18 or The White-Papacy/'Pope' that

1. Performs Satanic Miracles.
2. Makes The Image of The [8th-Head of The Sea]"Beast" of Revelation verses 1-10.
3. Commands Universal ("Catholic") Worship of The Image of The Aforesaid [8th-Head of The Sea]"Beast".
4. Commands Universal ("Catholic") Mark of The Aforesaid [8th-Head of The Sea]"Beast" on All Human Right Hands and/or Foreheads.

And That Aforesaid [8th-Head of The Sea]"Beast" of Revelation 13:1-10; is None Other Than The Future Black-Papacy/"Pope" and/or "Jesuit"-General of The Satanic Roman "Catholic" Cult of Popish "Jesuitic" Vaticanism......

a.k.a. Roman "Catholicism" !

Over 1.1 BILLION Spiritually Lost Mohammedans Believe That Satanic (and Vaticanist Instigated) LIE; According to the Koran: to their own Spiritual, Psychological and Physical Eternal Damnation In The Lake Of Fire!

"John Yurich", You're Almost Sounding Like A Man After My Own Heart!

As A Practicing Historic 66-Booked-Authorized-Biblical-Literalist Holy Judeo-Christian Post-Apostolic Pre/Post-Nicean, Holy-Bible-Only, "Sola-Escritura" Authorized-Bible Catholic:

I ALSO do NOT for ONE MOMENT believe that THAT living room wall-image is That Of The Hebrew Miriam of Nazareth; The Jewish Mother of The Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth in Israel: and The Mother of *James, Joses, **Jude and Simon (*, **; The human writers of The Authorized Biblical-Literal Book of James & Jude) !

NOTE: For THAT Matter, I do NOT BELIEVE that ANY so-called APPEARINGS OF MARY; AFTER HER DEATH IN THE FIRST CENTURY: IS GENUINE AND TRUE.......

BUT ARE ALL FALSE AND SATANIC-DEMONIC-DEVILISH-HELLISH DECEPTIONS TO DECEIVE IF IT WERE POSSIBLE; EVEN THE VERY ELECT OF ALMIGHTY GOD !

AS ALMIGHTY GOD SAYS IN HIS HOLY WORD (THROUGH THE APOSTLE TO THE GENTILES; SAUL-PAUL OF TARSUS):

"BUT THOUGH WE (THE APOSTLE[S] PAUL, PETER, JAMES, JOHN, ETC; THE DISCIPLES, MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS, ETC.), OR AN ANGEL FROM HEAVEN, PREACH ANY OTHER GOSPEL UNTO YOU THAN THAT WHICH WE HAVE (ALREADY) PREACHED UNTO YOU (SINCE 29 AD AND AFTER THE TIME OF THIS WRITING IN GALATIANS) LET HIM (OR HER) BE ACCURSED." !

As A Practicing Historic 66-Booked-Authorized-Biblical-Literalist Holy Judeo-Christian Post-Apostolic Pre/Post-Nicean, Holy-Bible-Only, "Sola-Escritura" Authorized-Bible Catholic:

I ALSO do NOT for ONE MOMENT believe that THAT living room wall-image is That Of The Hebrew Miriam of Nazareth; The Jewish Mother of The Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth in Israel: and The Mother of *James, Joses, **Jude and Simon (*, **; The human writers of The Authorized Biblical-Literal Book of James & Jude) !

NOTE: For THAT Matter, I do NOT BELIEVE that ANY so-called APPEARINGS OF MARY; AFTER HER DEATH IN THE FIRST CENTURY: IS GENUINE AND TRUE.............

BUT ALL ARE FALSE AND SATANIC-DEMONIC-DEVILISH-HELLISH DECEPTIONS TO DECEIVE IF IT WERE POSSIBLE; EVEN THE VERY ELECT OF ALMIGHTY GOD !

AS ALMIGHTY GOD SAYS IN HIS HOLY WORD (THROUGH THE APOSTLE TO THE GENTILES; SAUL-PAUL OF TARSUS):

"BUT THOUGH WE (THE APOSTLE(S) PAUL, PETER, JAMES, JOHN, ETC; THE DISCIPLES, MARY THE MOTHER OF JESUS, ETC.), OR AN ANGEL FROM HEAVEN, PREACH ANY OTHER GOSPEL UNTO YOU THAN THAT WHICH WE HAVE (ALREADY) PREACHED UNTO YOU (SINCE BEFORE 29 AD & @ THE TIME OF THIS WRITING IN GALATIANS) LET HIM (OR HER) BE ACCURSED."!!!

"huh?" wrote:
huh?

mike wrote:
They died because they played carelessly with pipe bombs...

And, NO, They Weren't CARELESSLY PLAYING "with pipe bombs" ! The Teenage Friends "had been BUILDING pipe bombs." !

Misinformation & Disinformation (Misquoting & Misconstruing) Can Do More Damage; and, Cause More Confusion: As Can Willfully Denying The Spiritual and/or Psychological Origins, Implications and Conclusions of THIS MATTER !

Because if they did; Old Joe-RATzinger/Pope-Benedict-XVI would be the FIRST ONE TO GO (The First One To Be "CLEANSED"-PURGED-REMOVED-ELIMINATED-BOOTED-ERADICATED) !

As 90% of The Roman Catholic Cultic Priesthood suffers one or more forms of sodomic/homo-sexual "complexes" or disorders!

And pray what ?

666 "Our Fathers" ?
666 "Hail Marys" ?

And pray to whom ?

The Baal-Nimrod Ogre whom The Satanic-Vatican calls "'Jesus' Christ" ?

or

The Venus-Isis/Diana/Madonna whom The Satanic-Vatican calls "'Mary' the 'Mother' of 'Jesus'" ?

or

The Zeus/Odin "Gray-Old-Man-Upstairs" whom The Satanic-Vatican refers to as "'God' the 'Father'" ?

or

C'mon, with 5 out of 9 Supreme Court Judges Being Roman Catholics.

50% of The U.S. Congress Voting Along The Roman Catholic Agenda/Lobby.

I'd say that American "Christianity" is Heading Down The Hellish Pits of The Satanic Vatican.

or

The Diabolical Roman "Catholic" Cult of Popish "Jesuitic" Vaticanism!

Either way, The Next U.S. President Will Be Determined By This New-Years (2008) "Black Pope/"Jesuit"-General".

And rumor is he wants the U.S. Presidential Candidate who is most likely to take orders from him, and him alone.

Now which Presidential Candidate might that be?

Note: The last Diabolical & Dastardly "act" done by the last "Black Pope", Peter Hans Kolvenbach/Klovenhoof, before he stepped down on 1/1/08 ; was to have "ordered" the "assassination" of Pakistani Presidential Candidate Bhutto!

Evidently, he didn't want to allow an independently minded Pakistani President, like Bhutto, to ever think again of using Pakistan's nuclear capabilities against an overt political-religious enemy like India; or covert religio-political enemy like......

RON PAUL sure Doesn't:

"I'm happy to witness so many politicians honoring a great man of God and
peace. The problem, however, is that so few of them honored him during
his lifetime by their actions as legislators. In fact, most members of
Congress support policies that are totally at odds with (Roman)Catholic
teachings.

The hypocritical pro-war conservatives lauding him today have very short
memories.
Both conservatives and liberals cannot understand that the Popes
pronouncements were theological, not political.

He was a man of God, not a man of the state. He was not a policy maker,
but rather a steward of long-established (Roman)Catholic doctrine. His mission
was to save souls, not serve the political agendas of any nation, party,
or politician.

The Popes commitment to human dignity, grounded in the teachings of
Christ, led him to become an eloquent and consistent advocate for an
ethic of life, exemplified by his struggles against abortion, war,
euthanasia, and the death penalty.

But no politician will ever produce even a tiny fraction of the legacy
left by Pope John Paul II (Sic, Sic, Sic! 666)."--Ron Paul 4/12/05

Or

George Washington's ?

Or

John Adams' ?

Or

Thomas Jefferson's ?

Or

Andrew Jackson's ?

After All, It Was President Andrew Jackson who said of Methodist-Fundamentalist-Revivalist/Evangelist & Circuit-Riding Biblical-literalist (6 24-hour-days-Biblical-Creationist) Preacher "Peter Cartwright":

"lance eccles" wrote:
And she still points to Christ's word.
The world has ignored Christ. As a last measure he has sent his mother several times to implore us to ignore him no longer. He needn't have sent her, but he has.
It is our last chance. If the world continues to ignore him, then a terrible fate awaits it.

When I was raised Roman Catholic; I was drilled the same drivel that "lance eccles" is driveling & drilling to you.

But it's ALL Deceptive Devilish-Demonic Driveling & Drilling!

The Lord Jesus Christ NEVER-EVER said in HIS WORD That He'd Send His Mother To "Preach The Gospel" To The World--If The World Wouldn't Believe HIM or HIS TWELVE APOSTLES' GOSPEL MESSAGE !

On The Contrary: The LORD JESUS CHRIST through His Apostle To The Gentiles (The Nations), ST. PAUL, said:

"But though WE, or An(other) Angel (or Messenger) from Heaven, Preach Any OTHER Gospel Unto YOU Than That Which WE Have Preached Unto YOU, Let HIM (or HER) be ACCURSED.

As WE Said Before, So Say I now AGAIN, If any MAN (or WOMAN) Preach Any OTHER Gospel Unto YOU Than That Which YE Have RECEIVED, Let HIM (or HER) Be ACCURSED." Galatians 1:8-9

terry evans wrote:
Lets do one thing at a time...

Besides I'm a little slow

you are A-LOT slow !

Evidently, you must've at one point in time Believed in The Authorized Biblical/Holy-Spiritual Doctrine of The PRE-Millenial/PRE-Tribulation RAPTURE; but have since APOSTACIZED--Like a-lot of Other Saints who have "Depated From The Faith; Giving Heed To Seducing Spirits And Doctrines of Devils" !

or

You have NEVER Been In "THE FAITH" In The First Place !

Let alone been Authorized-Biblically-Literally/Holy-Spiritually Saved/Born-Again In The First Place !

Those who Attack, Denegrade and/or Speak-Evil of The Authorized Biblical-Literalist IMMINENT Pre-Tribulation/Millenial Rapture of The True Church of Jesus Christ are either;

#1. Wilfully Ignorant of IT !
#2. Know it to Be So; But Deliberately Disbelieve it -- and Speak/Preach Against IT !

This is a matter of perceived public safety vs freedom of speech & religion; guaranteed by The First Amendment to The U.S. Constitution!

I personally don't believe that the public was unsafe or endangered by Christine Lutz reading The Authorized King James Version of The Holy Bible/Scripture(s) to her children.

I personally think this was a matter of offense and/or inconvenience to the T. Bus Driver. And he selfishly/wantonly/unjustifiably used the bus policy as a means to stifle and/or cause Mrs. Lutz to cease and desist in her Bible/Scripture(s) reading.

Thus denying the free expression of her religion & speech.

Mrs. Lutz is in her Constitutional Rights to sue the T. Bus Service Driver and/or The Fort Worth Bus Service Company; for discrimination against her religion/speech.

Her supposed violation of her Sabbath, as commented by "Jan", falls under the Jurisdiction of her "Church"; and Not Under The Jurisdiction of The Municipality of Fort Worth, The Soverign State of Texas or The United States of America.