Mike, there is enough evidence now to know that Trump has done wrongâ
James Hohmann wrote: .... -- Schiff argued that no additional evidence is needed to know the president abused his power and tried to cover it up. âWe know what the president did, and we know when the president did it. But there are witnesses that could relate conversations with the president, and conversations among each other, about the execution of the president's scheme,â he explained.âŚ
Mulvaney essentially admitted to a quid pro quo during his notorious October appearance in the White House briefing room,Â Schiff noted,Â even though he tried to walk it back later. He added that the documents and testimony his investigators collected leave no doubt that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo was in the loop about what was going on. Schiff also recalled former NSC official Fiona Hillâs testimony that her boss, John Bolton, referred to the shadow foreign policy toward Ukraine as a âdrug dealâ being cooked up by Sondland and Mulvaney.....
excerpt from, "What Adam Schiff ... hopes for the Senate trial"
Jennifer Rubin wrote: Christianity Today, a major evangelical magazine founded by the Rev. Billy Graham, published an extraordinary editorial [ https://tinyurl.com/yx3nbpvo ] on Thursday calling for President Trumpâs removal from office. Coming from a sector of the electorate that has shown Trump blind loyalty, the CT editorial serves as a rare rebuke to a president who conjured a make-believe war on Christianity and cast himself as evangelicalsâ defender. .... Peter Wehner, a veteran of President George W. Bushâs administration who frequently writes about faith and politics..., told me how important CT is in the evangelical world. âItâs the flagship publication for evangelical Christianity,â he said. âBilly Graham was the founder, and of course Franklin Graham is one of Trumpâs most loyal defenders, to the point of obsequiousness.â Wehner added: âIâm not sure how many minds the CT editorial will change, but this was a gutsy act, since some large number of its subscribers are undoubtedly Trump supporters. The damage to the evangelical movement and the Christian witness in America during the Trump years has been immense ...â....
excerpt from, "Why Christianity Today's call for Trump's ouster may not matter"
https://tinyurl.com/wj9dops (In the event that the President's tweets sent you here)
Which will send you hereâ
Mark Galli wrote: .... The typical CT approach is to stay above the fray and allow Christians with different political convictions to make their arguments in the public square, to encourage all to pursue justice according to their convictions and treat their political opposition as charitably as possible. We want CT to be a place that welcomes Christians from across the political spectrum, and reminds everyone that politics is not the end and purpose of our being. We take pride in the fact, for instance, that politics does not dominate our homepage....
https://tinyurl.com/yx3nbpvo (Trump Should Be Removed from Office)
Excellent editorial, no wonder Frankie Graham didn't like it.
Stever, as George Will point it out, yes taking the fifth an honest person doesn't take the fifth, in fact taking the fifth generally means a person is guiltyâ
Dr. Rugh wrote: .... ....Vigilantes who carry and quote their Bibles while they break the law bring disgrace to the name of Jesus Christ and are in direct rebellion with Scripture. 1 Peter 4:15 states, "By no means let any of you suffer as a murderer, or thief, or evildoer, or a troublesome meddler." God nowhere gives individuals the right to take the life of someone else. If they do, they themselves are a murderer.
Taking the law into oneâs own hands is not only unbiblical, it also can work against Christians. Some people strongly disagree with the views of evangelicals. Should they be allowed to disrupt our services and kill pastors whom they disagree with? Most Christians would be appalled at this idea but some Christians would be supportive of illegally disrupting the activity of unbelievers. But when people take justice into their own hands anarchy results and society dissolves....
excerpt from, "Rendering To Caesar---A Biblical Perspective On Government"
Chris GP, there's no reason that this judge should not use all the legal remedies that are available to her! But aggressive behavior is unseemly even if it's legal and she appears as a troublesome meddler - it's the meek who shall inherit the earthâđâ
the editorial board HC wrote: .... The ... two articles of impeachment. The first accuses President Trump of abusing the powers of his office by withholding military aid and a White House meeting while pressuring Ukraine's new president to investigate his political rival and a debunked theory about Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election.
These are serious charges and well-grounded in facts assembled throughout weeks of testimony. The House has ample justification ... to send the matter to the Senate for a trial and verdict as to whether they are so serious that the president must leave office.
...steps both political and pragmatic taken by all parties involved have marred the proceedings to date. Not only has the president offered no cooperation with the investigation, he has also offered no apology and no remorse for conduct that even many of his defenders who oppose impeachment have called a brazen misstep. House Republicans have followed the presidentâs lead by mostly refusing to engage on the underlying facts for the allegations, making disingenuous complaints about âhearsayâ and declaring the process âa sham.â...
--- "Americans are counting on Senate for...fair trial of Donald Trump"
John MacArthur wrote: .... Oral Roberts' ... recalled only one incident more than 20 years before when he had supposedly raised a dead child in front of 10,000 witnesses. "During a healing service," he recalled, "A mother in the audience jumped up and shouted, 'My baby is dead!'" Roberts said he, "prayed over the child and it jerked, it jerked in my hand." Roberts conceded that neither that child nor others he said he had brought to life had been pronounced clinically dead....
...the types of miracles that are being claimed today are absolutely nothing like New Testament miracles: ..? the types of miracles today could be distinctly seen as different than New Testament miracles. Jesus and the Apostles instantly and completely healed people born blind, a paralytic, a man with a withered arm, all obvious indisputable miracles. Even Jesus' enemies didn't challenge the reality of His miracles and He had the people there to verify them. He raised the dead, of course, as we well know. They never did a miracle that was slow. They never did a miracle that took time. They never did a miracle that was less than permanent....
I have news for the EFCA, premillennialism is important to dogma and theology
Dr. Gerald Stanton wrote: â˘ Consistent literal interpretation â˘ Unconditional nature of the covenants (Abrahamic) â˘ The Abrahamic Covenant â˘ The Old Testament teaches a literal earthly kingdom â˘ The kingdom is carried unchanged into the New Testament â˘ Christ also supports and earth kingdom â˘ There are multiple resurrections in Scripture â˘ Revelation 20 teaches premillennialism â˘ The early church was premillennial â˘ The failure of amillennialism and postmillennialism â˘ Premillennialism harmonizes the entire Bible â˘ Only premillennialism provides a satisfactory conclusion to history
from, Ice, Thomas D., "The Unscriptural Theologies of Amillennialism and Postmillennialism" (2009). Article Archives. Paper 54. http://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/pretrib_arch/54
Senator Chuck Shumer wrote: .... I hope America was watching the Republican leader deliver his speech. I truly do. Because most glaring of all, was the fact that Leader McConnellâs thirty-minute partisan stem-winder contained hardly a single defense of the president on the merits,
To my Republican colleagues: our message is a simple one. Democrats want a fair trial that examines the relevant facts. We want a fair trial. The message from Leader McConnell, at the moment, is that he has no intention of conducting a fair trial, no intention of acting impartially, no intention of getting the facts,
Is the presidentâs case so weak that none of the presidentâs men can defend him under oath? If the Houseâs case is so weak, why is Leader McConnell so afraid of witnesses and documents? We believe the Houseâs case is strong âŚ but if the Republican leader believes itâs so weak, why is he so afraid of relevant witnesses and documents?
.... Leader McConnell claimed the impeachment was motivated by partisan rage. This from the man who said, âI am not impartial. I have no intention to be impartial at allâ in the trial of President Trump. What hypocrisy....
---"McConnell says he and Democrats 'at an impasse'..." https://tinyurl.com/rns8v8p
Dr. Rugh wrote: .... Fortunately for us in the United States, our government does not require us to disobey God. At times it tolerates and encourages sin. For example, our government permits the sin of homosexuality. Yet no Christians are required to be homosexuals. Likewise, our government allows abortion but no Christians are forced to have abortions. If someday, the government required believers to participate in immoral activity or be involved with abortions, we would not be able to do so....
..... Nowhere in the New Testament do we find Jesus or the apostles trying to change the political and social system. In the first century church there were many social evils â abortion, slavery, immorality, and ill treatment of women, to name a few. The apostles, however, were not on a social crusade. They were never seen protesting slavery, demanding human rights, and trying to place certain people in political power. Nor is there any instruction for the church to change society through political action....
https://tinyurl.com/zwg8o3o (Rendering To Caesar---A Biblical Perspective On Government)
This is an excellent article Dr. Rugh. It is a very thorough one.
How soon you fellows forget the Helsinki meeting between Putin and Trump, and other meetings as wellâ
Abby Vesoulis and Vera Bergengruen wrote: .... If there is any winner in the Democratsâ impeachment inquiry so far, it is Russian President Vladimir Putin. Experts say the Trump administrationâs advancement of Russiaâs disinformation campaign that it was Ukraine â not Russia â that interfered in 2016 elections has both succeeded in creating friction between Ukraine and the U.S., a key backer in Ukraineâs long-running conflict with Russia, and has taken the heat off Russia as Americans get ready to vote again next year. Hill was not the only witness who told the Committee that the politicization of U.S. support for Ukraine was playing right into Russiaâs hands....
excerpt from, "How Russian President Vladimir Putin Emerged as a Winner in President Donald Trump's Impeachment Hearings"
I seem to miss this opinion piece by George Will, I would assume that he would agree what's the second article of impeachment that Congress passed
George F. Will wrote: ...He [Trump] has issued a categorical refusal to supply witnesses and documents pertinent to the House investigation of whether he committed an impeachable offense regarding Ukraine. This refusal, which is analogous to an invocation of the Fifth Amendment protection against self-incrimination, justifies an inference of guilt. Worse, this refusal attacks our constitutional regime. So, the refusal is itself an impeachable offense....
excerpt from, "The spiraling president adds self-impeachment to his repertoire"
Nancy Pelosi should be congratulated on keeping the House dignified in it's impeachment proceedings. While a number of Democrats may have been overjoyed with the impeachment actions, they should remember it was a Pyrrhic victory for the Republican House to get Bill Clinton's impeachment to the Senate
Forbes wrote: .... â˘U.S. nonprofits, including religious organizations, are tax exempt, but Neilsenâs complaint says Ensign should be stripped of its tax-exempt status by the IRS because it has not used the $100 billion on charitable works.
â˘Neilsenâs complaint claims Ensign president Roger Clarke has said the fund would be used should the second coming of Christ occur, while the Post reported that high-ranking cleric Bishop GĂŠrald Caussc gave a March 2018 speech in which he connected the âprophecies of last daysâ to setting aside some ârevenues each year to prepare for any possible future needs.â...
excerpt from, SA article
Goofy Doomsday Preppersđ http://tinysa.com/242075 (A Jet Tour Through Revelation, Part 1) http://tinysa.com/242076 (A Jet Tour Through Revelation, Part 2), and http://tinysa.com/242077 (A Jet Tour Through Revelation, Part 3)
https://tinyurl.com/tp5j28u (Putin: Trump impeachment âfar-fetched,â Senate will acquit)
Why should I be happy, QC? That a President should be impeached? While the Democratic Congress did the proper thing, many of them already know it's going to be a Quixote victory. The party does the impeaching never comes out the winner of it.
Censoring Trump may have been the better thing to doâ
I think it's a foregone conclusion what's going to happen in the Senate - - the Gilded Age continued.
Daniel Politi wrote: Before the impeachment trial begins in the Senate, the rules clearly dictate that senators must swear an oath to carry out âimpartial justice according to the Constitution and laws.â But some Republican senators are saying publicly they already know they will vote against impeachment before the trial even begins. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell took that a step further, saying last week that he was working in âtotal coordinationâ with the White House. Speaking on ABCâs This Week House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler said that was like âthe foreman of the jury saying heâs going to work hand in glove with the defense attorney.â ....
excerpt from, "Democrats Blast GOP Senators for Saying They Wonât Impeach Trump Before Trial"
Yes, I hope that the FBI does satisfactorily answer the judge's questions, it should be pointed out from the inspector General's report:
Allan Smith wrote: In Comey's interview with Fox, host Chris Wallace pointed to past remarks Comey made in which he said the FBI followed the process to obtain the surveillance warrants properly.
"He's right, I was wrong," Comey said. "I was overconfident in the procedures that the FBI and Justice had built over 20 years. I thought they were robust enough."... .... ...the FBI was accused of treason, of illegal spying, of tapping Mr. Trump's wires illegally, of opening an investigation without justification, of being a criminal conspiracy to defeat and unseat a president," Comey said. "All of that was nonsense. I think it's really important that the inspector general looked at that and the American people, your viewers and all viewers understand that's true."
excerpt from, "Comey takes responsibility for FBI 'sloppiness' revealed in DOJ watchdog's report"
Joel wrote: Btw, Jim Lincoln, could you define âEvangelicalâ for me? This term is being thrown around at high rate of speed.
Joel, I would suggest you read the excellent article by Russell Moore, which he did in 2016 that is, before he was effectively silenced by the power hungry in the Southern Baptist Church:
Russell Moore wrote: .... The word âevangelicalâ isnât, first of all, about American politics. The word is rooted in the Greek word for gospel, good news for sinners through the life, death, resurrection and reign of Jesus of Nazareth as the son of God and anointed ruler of the cosmos.
EvangelicalÂ means a commitment to the truth of Godâs revelation in the Bible and a conviction that the blood of Christ is offered to any repentant, believing sinner as a full atonement for sin....
excerpt from, "Why this election makes me hate the word âevangelicalâ
I suspect there are many Blacks who would agree with the above definition. I would also suspect that they would agree with the whole article that Dr. Moore wrote. See the first article that I referenced in this thread, the woman professor didn't ignore the Southern Baptists!
Timothy, Clintons' more suspect than the Trumps?âđ
"Under a settlement, the president admitted he had used his charity to bolster his campaign and settle business debts." https://tinyurl.com/tso78wm (Trump Pays $2 Million to 8 Charities for Misuse of Foundation)
Timothy I have to say that is the most amusing statement do you have made yet.
Or how about Trump University?
ÂĄÂżThe most obvious answer is that the Republicans had many more fit candidates to run for President than Trump, so why didn't you fellows pick one of them?Âż!
I'll give you a snippet of an opinion piece by George Will. He did mention Trump that much, in fact I think I'll give you the piece of it that he did and he mentioned Elizabeth Warren just as much!
Neither the looney left or the wacky right are my tribes, Mike. I thank God Anyway, see the George Will article, what's really is extensive comment from another person.
George Will wrote: .... All this began before Trump slouched onto the political stage, and because of his electoral success he already has emulators among his despisers. Consider Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren's grotesque -- and classically demagogic -- ascription of blame to unpopular others for everyone else's personal complaints -- which she says government can remedy: "You've got things that are broken in your life? I'll tell you exactly why. It's because giant corporations, billionaires have seized our government." All demagogues begin by rejecting Samuel Johnson's wisdom: "How small, of all that human hearts endure, that part which laws or kings can cause or cure." Warren is a millimeter away from Trump's "I alone can fix it," where the antecedent of the pronoun "it" is: everything....
excerpt from, "America's current political moment might be so bad that it becomes good"
I think George's title for the opinion piece with something tongue and cheek.