Dr. Tim wrote: Jim, I can just disprove your theory that universal healthcare reduces the right of abortions by using a single word. That word is China. Abortion is not a medical issue, nor is it an economic issue. Abortion is a spiritual issue â€“ â€“ but as a natural man, you wouldn't understand that would you?
Good quote and good logic. Jim really is a silly liberal troll. I wonder if he has noticed that 99.99 percent of posters agree with that?
What an interesting fellow he turned out to be. My guess is there is a lot regarding his character that hasnâ€™t come out yet, but since young people use a lot of social media, it probably will over time. One article said he described himself as a psychopath. He was also noted as saying: I wish I was sorry, but Iâ€™m not. If true, to me that means he knew right from wrong at a minimum. But, then the law is written into the hearts of all of us.
Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and [their] thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
Now, not to take away from anything this fellow did, but an abortion doctor probably murders that many babies in the course of a good work day. This just puts it in perspective for me.
I am also curious as to his religious upbringing, so if anyone stumbles across anything regarding that, please post it. One of the neighbors said it could be considered cult-like, but he didn't think it was.
Lastly, I cannot fathom his roommates not knowing what he was doing.
Christopher000 wrote: Hey Guys, I know I'm going to sound like a broken record saying this once again, but it makes so much sense to me that I'll repeat it again: Murder a baby in the womb at any stage of pregnancy, and for any reason, whatsoever, and life goes on. No big deal, nobody cares in any way. Murder that very same baby the moment following delivery, and let's say that the very same methods are used to commit the murder that would be used if the baby was still within the womb, and you are a monster. Instead of nobody caring, and life moving on, you find your mug on that nights news, and plastered all over every social media platform as everyone trys to figure out what happened to you as a child that would cause you to commit such an horrific crime against a helpless and innocent little bundle of joy. Sure makes a lot of sense, doesn't it. Ridiculous.
Well said Chris! When society rejects the the moral code that our heavenly Father has given all of us, then we have this sort of evil hypocrisy.
And, if a woman is pregnant and she is harmed by someone and loses the baby; that is also considered a crime. Why is this any different? Because women have now been given the authority to chose life or death.
Dr. Tim wrote: Making abortion illegal and enforcing the law rigorously reduces the rate of abortion also.
I agree Tim! But then how would Jim from Lincoln's liberal friends murder their unborn children.
I think women who get abortions and those that perform them should be prosecuted for murder. When I was young, the only way a woman could murder their children was in what they referred to as back alley abortions.
A while ago, they said on FOX news that Trump was perhaps the most pro life president in history. Then they said that he was certain to sign the new spending bill even though it continued to fund Planned Parenthood. Apparently since he got his military budget, he could live with the PP funding.
So, what they are saying is it is okay to fund the murder of babies for some reason? If someone really believed the unborn were life, they would veto this spending bill.
Like I have always said; they are all different shades of the same color.
Christopher000 wrote: How sad that this minority group has been given such power, thanks to the ACLU powerhouse of attorneys at their disposal. I understand that they hate God, even though they claim not to even believe in Him. There's just no other logical reason for their rage, or making it their life's mission to erase Him from the minds of the next generation. Christianity, I would think, would be a positive thing, in their minds, and in todays world, regardless of the Christian God or not. Christianity teaches morality, ethics, clean living, forgiveness, kindness, love, and every other good and positive thing. Seems to me that they would welcome the values that Christianity teaches, and would respond in a positive way, but it seems they would rather have kids continue to be sucked in by the evils of this world, and instead, learn to hate, steal, kill, and destroy themselves through one means or another. They make no sense to me, and certainly don't have anyone's best interest in mind.
Excellent points Chris! And the fact they are so upset with the Christian values you noted, says so much.
Yolanda wrote: Processes that determine whether there is life or not: Movement Respiration Sensitivity Growth Reproduction Excretion Nutrition One does not have to see to believe. Conception begins in the womb.
Yes, if it is in the process of development, at any stage, then it is a human. I always like to ask; when did Jesus become fully human. My answer is at the moment of conception. Mary was poor and unmarried. Should she have sought an abortion; of course not.
It is amazing that my God and Savior used the same process as all other human life.
Oh and this law still says it is okay to murder an innocent baby.
Iâ€™m sure most of us realize that the age of consent varies greatly across our world and that includes those countries we consider to be civilized, e.g. Germany, France, etc.
The below paragraph is from the internet concerning Germany as an example.
The Age of Consent in Germany is 14 years old. The age of consent is the minimum age at which an individual is considered legally old enough to consent to participation in sexual activity. Individuals aged 13 or younger in Germany are not legally able to consent to sexual activity, and such activity may result in prosecution for statutory rape or the equivalent local law.
I have always been curious about a moral law being different in various countries; especially when those countries have a biblical history.
I hope the above isnâ€™t divisive and I really hope no one thinks I am justifying this pastorâ€™s behavior in the slightest and I believe he should have been removed from office. But, the subject is interesting.
In the 1973 landmark case Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court applied this core constitutional principle of privacy and liberty to a womanâ€™s ability to terminate a pregnancy. In Roe, the Court held that the constitutional right to privacy includes a womanâ€™s right to decide whether to have an abortion. The Court made clear that as a basic right to privacy protected by the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, the womanâ€™s right is â€śfundamental,â€ť meaning that governmental attempts to interfere with the right are subject to â€śstrict scrutiny.â€ť To withstand strict scrutiny, the government must show that its law or policy is necessary to achieve a compelling interest. The law or policy must also be narrowly tailored to achieve the interest and must be the least restrictive means for doing so.
The above is from the internet of course.
IMO, saying the abortion issue is a privacy issue is lunacy. Anytime someone is given a legal choice to murder or not to murder then something is wrong with the system. SCOTUS decided this because of feminism and their Jim L. belief that a life isn't a life until it is born.
Luke 1:41 â€śAnd it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:â€ť
Nete wrote: What puzzles me is how Christians can vote for the same man as non-Christians vote for. What is it that both the righteous and the wicked see in a wicked man that both approve of? What spirit of agreement is in the trio? What do they both see in a singular person? Can it be both good and evil? What puzzles me is how Christians can vote for the same man as non-Christians vote for. What is it that both the righteous and the wicked see in a wicked man that both approve of? What spirit of agreement is in the trio? What do they both see in a singular person? Can it be both good and evil?
I voted for Trump for one reason. He ran as a conservative and because of that I knew that he would have to pander to conservatives. I thought that because of that just one little baby might be saved from being murdered. That was my only reason, but I still believe it was legitimate.
Dr. Tim wrote: What about the anti-KJV trolls, Frank? They get a pass?
Well as you know I would never say anything positive about Jim from Lincoln. He is the only one that might fit that category. But when he is presenting his argument, it is usually because something was noted previously. He doesn't initiate it like IE and JohnUK.
There is no such term as a nasb or a esv onlyist. And of course, that same thought would go for any version that exists other than the KJV. IOW, what in the world are you talking about.
But, even though you and I disagree on this, I do care whether you read the Quran. IOW, I consider you to be in fact saved. I think we should read the bibles that we are convinced are best examples of the word of God.
Pick a fight with someone who desires to argue with you. You have denied being a KJVOnlyist in the past. So what is your problem with my comment. Last one to you on this thread unless you suddenly start being respectful.
Well, letâ€™s see. You have an immoral buffoon who supposedly was led to the Lord by Paula White and you have a woman who has posed publicly in the nude both with their hands on a bible. Trump said he was proud of his wifeâ€™s modeling career and she has never repented of anything she has done; or at least we have no record of her doing that.
If anyone understands cultural Christianity and feminism, then they will understand my consternation.
I hope our KJVOnlist trolls can stick to the news article. Two unsaved people with their hands on a bible and thinking it is something spiritual.
Jim, I didnâ€™t read your link mainly because I cannot fathom one instance when I would tell a woman they have a choice to have a baby or to murder that baby. Would you tell someone who was on the street, hungry, and destitute that they can always choose to rob and steal to relieve their circumstances? What is the difference?
Now I know why 35.6% of all abortions in the U.S. are performed on Black women, however, Black women make up only about 13% of the female population.
How has the above worked out economically for black females?
The Quiet Christian wrote: Thanks, Frank. I have too often forgotten to pray for these men. It is incredibly difficult for them, yet they remain that they may minister. Most conservative chaplains don't seem to survive and depart. Most of the senior chaplains I knew were either liberals or Roman Catholics.
Sounds like you are ex military. I spent 10 1/2 years in the Army and the last thing I would have sought was a chaplain. IOW, I was unsaved and very carnal.
I personally don't see how anyone who names the name of Christ could become a chaplain and if they did, I believe they would be given a dishonorable discharge for disobeying their superiors. How could someone be with a dying soldier or any unsaved soldier and not give him the gospel of salvation? How could someone obey an order not to name the name of Christ?
I have never prayed about that situation so thanks for mentioning it!
The Quiet Christian wrote: Again, this has little to do with who is Commander-in-Chief but Congressional pressure to maintain "equality" coupled with a tendency for an anything-goes standard of what religions are acceptable. Christian chaplains lost the ability to pray in Jesus name years ago. There are Muslim, LDS, and pagan chaplains today. What difference is there between a pagan group and a humanist group? One has a physical idol, one doesn't. So this is of no surprise. It sounds like the Navy Chaplain Corps is at least being honest seeing that there are no objective standards for whom is acceptable. Unlike being at home in which we can choose whatever church we'd like to attend, deployed military are at the mercy of whomever is assigned as chaplain to conduct services. The other option is some sort of house church-style gathering or personal study.
I didn't read the article, but I agree with what you have written about military chaplains. I'm not sure how many people really know their limitations? How they can serve with any kind of conscience in that capacity is beyond me.
Most people don't know how this concept is also found with Hospice and hospital chaplains.
Our heavenly Father said to be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth.
Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
Regardless of what some of our social engineers teach, He has supplied us with sufficient resources to do just that. The problem isnâ€™t food and water, the problem is with feminism and men who donâ€™t want the responsibility of rearing children.
However scripture teaches that things will grow worse and worse and then the end will come. IOW, none of this has taken our Lord by surprise. Praise His holy name!
Well, as all of us know, God made them male and female and there is nothing we can do or say that will alter that.
Ephesians 6:12 â€śFor we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.â€ť
Romans 1:25 â€śWho changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.â€ť
Luke 17:28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; 29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.