"I don't see many posttribbers out there evangelizing the lost. I don't see the fruits of a holy sanctified life among the posttribbers either."
I haven't seen many pre-tribbers either(been confronted by Baptists and Mormons on the street a couple of times), and I'm not sure what kind of observing you're doing to judge a sanctified life...I guess I'd have to say the same about pre-tribbers....besides, numbers, street-preaching frequency and holy living don't necessarily equal truth(I mentioned mormons on the street corner). By the way, I'm post-trib without apology("After the days of tribulation..."is clear enough for me), and I share the Gospel with others. Perhaps this discussion can continue over a nicely decked table of crawfish and gumbo . Maybe then we'lll see who is most sanctified .
Discerned Believer, That's great about your service at the rescue mission. The one here operates a few facilities and has a local house of worship. I haven't been to it. It serves primarily the poor and homeless. I often come face to face with such folks at my church, because I work there and they often come seeking work, which I let them do with me if there is additional work to be done. The speaker-guest at the church's men's prayer breakfast for this week was the minister from the rescue mission. See you later...Lord bless you abundantly! .
Jim, The problem is not confined to Anglicans. You'll find similar problems among your own fellows of faith...perhaps their apple fell not far enough or has rolled into the danger zone. Considering the logic you posted bellow, combined with the homosexual problem, will show this to be true.
I wonder why kind of denomination these guys are? Pseudo-Catholic? They obvoiously don't blink at the thought of making eye-catching and possibly confusing images. Makes those "popish" things look rather innocent--icons and all. I can see where it could be misleading.
Not sure if the ancient Israelites of the Old Testament would agree with your "just dead mens' bones" idea, Mike, especially in relation to their kings and prophets. Just a thought I gather from my recollection of Old Testament recorded events.
Murray, are you fluent in Greek? Just aksing....I"m a linguist by profession and hobby. Maybe one day I'll take up a New Testament era language--Greek or Latin.
And Neil, you are right that a Reformed majority doesn't equal heaven on earth...I think the Netherlands is a good example, mostly Reformed, but among the most apostate and liberal countries.
Not a surprise to me, when I see in Scripture, certain people and places were highly valued for various reasons. However, charging money(if they do this) is going too far as I haven't yet found justification for this in the Scriptures....although I'll continue my search therein.
From my study of French history, it seems both Catholics and Protestants persecuted one another(although it appears the British Protestants carry the greatest guilt of tormenting French Catholics). And I don't believe France ever had a Protestant majority. There are French Protestant churches within France's borders. I saw them when I was there. France is just among those countries falling into great apostacy, whether the country be Catholic, Protestant or otherwise.
Good question, Mike. I was kinda thinking they could begin by making better use of James 5(Annoint with oil, prayer, etc.)...seems of the Baptists I hung around with never obeyed it. Maybe it's one of those things that's "too Catholic" for Baptists to obey, even though it's in the Bible . My guess. Anyway, they'd do well to begin there.
"The meeting, scheduled for next year, is aimed at improving the public image of Baptists and broadening their agenda on social issues such as poverty, racial conflict and health care."
Scripture and the tradition of the church govern worship. And yes to the Septuagint and/or KJV with the Apocrypha...fully acceptable; I have no problem with it.