So let me get this straight. All does not mean all. The whole world does not mean the whole world. I suppose that next you will be telling me that whosoever does not mean whosoever. It would appear that finding a man who takes the Bible at face value is harder than finding a one-armed man who can juggle feathers in a hurricane.
"So unless you know better then the sower in the parable you are to cast the good seed everywhere waiting on God to give the increase." Right on, Kev! Far too many people use the doctrine of election as an excuse not to sow at all. They foolishly believe that the elect will get saved no matter what, and everyone else will go to hell no matter what. However, they are elect "according to the foreknowledge of God," not the foreknowledge of the would-be soul winner. Sow!!!
That truly is a precious passage of scripture, John UK. I wish you had also quoted verse 6: "All [not some of us, but every man Jack] we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one [elect and non-elect alike] to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us ALL." If all doesn't mean all, then it doesn't mean anything. Jesus died for EVERY man's sins (I John 2:2), and to say that he only died for "some" requires extraordinary self-delusion and denial of the Word of God.
If "world" doesn't mean world, then Lamb doesn't mean Lamb and sin doesn't mean sin. Jesus Christ sacrificed His life to pay for every sin of every human from the beginning of time until the end. However, as with the Old Testament typical sacrifices, this only becomes effectual for those who identify themselves with their sacrifice. That is why the Jews laid their hands on the head of the sacrificial beasts. God so loved the world that He gave His Son for it, but we must make it personal as Paul did when he spoke of Christ "who loved me and gave himself for me." All have sinned and come short of the glory of God, but it is not until we can say with David, "I have gone astray like a lost sheep" that we begin to recognize our need for the Lamb of God. Anyone in the world could get saved, but not everyone will.
B. McCausland said, "Agreeing among ourselves is not the point, but agreeing with the Word of God." A very astute observation. Perhaps you have noticed that almost everyone who weighed in on this topic, regardless of his or her position on it, used scripture to make whatever point they were trying to make. So exactly which scripture would you have us agree with, BM? The one that says that the Sabbath is on Saturday? The one that says we are to do no work at all on that day? The one that says not to judge others on whether or not they observe the Sabbath? The one that says we are not under the law? Or--and of course I already know this is the answer--whichever one YOU happen to espouse? Or my very favorite one, the nonexistent one that says we must observe the Sabbath, but we can make it any day we want it to be? I think that one came out of II Babylonians Chapter 2.
If you call a sheep's tail a leg, how many legs does it have? Four; calling a tail a leg doesn't make it one, just as calling Sunday "the Sabbath" never has and does not now make it the Sabbath. John UK, no doubt your intentions are good--as were Uzzah's when he attempted to keep the ark from falling--but you are misguided and frankly dishonest in insisting on calling Sunday the Sabbath. Why don't you instead call it what the Bible calls it, the Lord's day?