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Lord Supper should it be an open Table for all believers or close to church members only. Created: 6/12/2007 | Last Vote: 10 days ago | Comment: 7 months ago

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4/6/09 2:44 PM rogerant  | Saskatoon Canada    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments John UK wrote: Got it, ta DJC49 Well, I don't know what this 'sign and the seal of their acceptance into the physical church' means. As far as I know, Roger, there is no belief in baptism being a continuation or fulfillment of the OT circumcision. Romans 4:11 And he received the "SIGN" of circumcision, a "SEAL" of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also: Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were "SEALED" with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. John: Even the Baptists that held to the 1649 Confessing accepted the fact that Baptism was the physical act or :SIGN: of one being accepted into the physical church. They beleived that circumcism was the O.T. sign and the seal of the covenent of promise, and Baptism is the sign and the seal of the New Convenant. 4/6/09 1:55 PM John UK  | Wales    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments rogerant wrote: I have a question for Baptists however, do your churches serve communion meal to their children, those who have not received the sign and the seal of their acceptance into the physical chruch? And do they have any concern about God's intention to kill Moses for not giving the sign of the seal to his own son? Exodus 4:24? Got it, ta DJC49 Well, I don't know what this 'sign and the seal of their acceptance into the physical church' means. However, all 1689 Baptist churches hold to 'believers baptism', in which case only the converted are baptised. Normally, this baptism after conversion is entrance into church membership, giving the member a voice in the running of the church. As far as I know, Roger, there is no belief in baptism being a continuation or fulfillment of the OT circumcision. 4/6/09 1:17 PM John UK  | Wales    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments rogerant wrote: ..........I have a question for Baptists however, do your churches serve communion meal to their children, those who have not received the sign and the seal of their acceptance into the physical chruch? And do they have any concern about God's intention to kill Moses for not giving the sign of the seal to his own son? Exodus 5:24? Hi bro.....say......could you repeat the question please, I couldn't find your ref in my Bible? 4/6/09 11:53 AM rogerant  | Saskatoon Canada    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments John UK wrote: Amen! It's simple really, but so many churches want to play God and restrict communion. Amen to that brother John: There are always those who attempt to restrict the Lord's supper to those in whom the shepherd thinks is unworthy. Christ's last words to Peter were to feed my lambs once and to feed His sheep twice. John 21:15-17. The priests, or intermediaries always try to step in between Christ and His sheep, so that they starve. I have a question for Baptists however, do your churches serve communion meal to their children, those who have not received the sign and the seal of their acceptance into the physical chruch? And do they have any concern about God's intention to kill Moses for not giving the sign of the seal to his own son? Exodus 5:24? 4/5/09 5:33 PM John UK  | Wales    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments Faithful Remnant wrote: Thanks John for your response. So are you of the Calvinistic Methodist persuasion? I find the name rather intriguing and read about them to learn more. Hello bro Faithful Remnant The history of the CM's is fascinating and I've recently read a book about them myself, as I joined with a CM church (Presbyterian Church of Wales) for about 18 months. As you will have read, the original Methodists were all members of the anglican communion, including George Whitefield, John & Charles Wesley, Howell Harris, and many others. But churches formed by the preaching of these men eventually separated, and formed new denominations according to their understanding. But no, I'm not of the CM persuasion, rather a 1689 Baptist as epitomised by John Bunyan, Charles Spurgeon, and lately Peter Masters of the Metropolitan Tabernacle. Unfortunately, it is these churches who hold a restricted communion table. Maybe I should settle down somewhere instead of travelling all over the place. 4/5/09 5:05 PM Faithful Remnant    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments Thanks John for your response. So are you of the Calvinistic Methodist persuasion? I find the name rather intriguing and read about them to learn more. 4/4/09 7:53 PM John UK  | Wales    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments Faithful Remnant wrote: Open to all believers. A simple confession of "I believe Jesus is the Son of God" from the eunuch was all that Phillip needed to baptize him and I believe it is all that is needed to be welcomed at Communion. Amen! It's simple really, but so many churches want to play God and restrict communion. But the onus should be on the individual to rightly discern their response to Calvary. It is interesting that Howell Harris, one of the early pioneers of the Calvinstic Methodists was actually converted during a communion service. 12/10/08 4:25 PM Girl  | Australia    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments It's open to all Christians, of course. The benefits and body of Christ are open and available to all Christians, not just ones of a particular church. The picture of this particular truth is the Lord's supper, and it is in this rememberance that we as Christians take the Lord's supper. 9/22/08 9:48 AM MJI  | N. Ireland    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments I believe it should be open to all Born again Christians as Christ scarifice was for all the elect surely we must not restick those coming to His table!!! 4/11/08 12:23 AM WSG  | Earth    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments Faithful Remnant wrote: Open to all believers. A simple confession of "I believe Jesus is the Son of God" from the eunuch was all that Phillip needed to baptize him and I believe it is all that is needed to be welcomed at Communion. Amen! 4/11/08 12:09 AM Faithful Remnant    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments Open to all believers. A simple confession of "I believe Jesus is the Son of God" from the eunuch was all that Phillip needed to baptize him and I believe it is all that is needed to be welcomed at Communion. 4/11/08 12:06 AM WSG  | Earth    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments It has always been my understanding that communion was intended for Christ believing people to remember Him by. It would be pointless for non-believers to take communion, it means nothing to them, they are not remembering anyone. However, I also don't believe that it is some kind of magical event that is going to make a non-Christian sick if they take it in error. Why not break bread and drink wine (or grape juice if you like) while sharing the gospel of Christ to someone? Everyday can be the Lord's Supper! The idea of making it a members only tradition seems, to me, to be missing the point of remembering Christ's sacrifice for ALL of us. Anyone out there with similar ideas? 2/2/08 5:58 PM Saint terry evans  | miramar beach fl    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments Minnow wrote: I don't accept this idea of "card-carrying" members only, having privileges and rights within the Lord's house, to the exclusion of other Christians or even genuine seekers. Amen BUT, those who partake must be made aware of this also, Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. 1 Corinthians 11 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 2/2/08 4:06 PM Minnow    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments I don't accept this idea of "card-carrying" members only, having privileges and rights within the Lord's house, to the exclusion of other Christians or even genuine seekers. 1/10/08 5:43 PM terry evans  | miramar beach fl    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments preacherjond. wrote: 1."Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:" 2."The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." 3."If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." 4."But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." "Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again." Yes, you go preacher 1/10/08 5:03 PM Michael Hranek  | Endicott, New York    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments derek wrote: Michael My bad I didn't read close enough. derek No problem, I've done the same thing sadly too many times to remember. Blessings btw I is an wonderfull blessing to meet a young child who is truly born again and is growing in their love for Jesus Christ....and that would include the privilege of taking the Lord's Table with them. 1/10/08 3:28 PM derek  | Missouri    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments Michael My bad I didn't read close enough. 1/10/08 1:37 PM Michael Hranek  | Endicott, New York    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments derek wrote: Michael: "btw Somehow I just do not believe that the Holy Ghost fell upon any infants present to where they spoke in tongues and I do not believe Peter commanded any infants there to be baptized, just believers." So - children can't be believers? Maybe this is a problem of deffinition and we need to define our terms. I find it hard to believe that a child under 5 years old understands he is lost, but who's to say it isn't possible? It surprises me that those who believe there is no cognative aspect to salvation will cut it off for children because they haven't the cognative ability to comprehend their lostness. Ir God has choosed whom he wills to be saved, who's to say he didn't save them at a 4 or 5 years old? How old was Samuel when the Holy Spirit began to speak to him? derek Infants, derek, infants. Yes, a word that can mean child but infant is much more specific and would normally not apply to children old enough to walk, talk and certainly old enough to know right from wrong. btw I wasn't addressing the reality that very young children can know the difference between right and wrong, can know they are a sinner and have sinned against God and are guilty before Him and can also believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved. 1/10/08 1:21 PM derek  | Missouri    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments Michael: "btw Somehow I just do not believe that the Holy Ghost fell upon any infants present to where they spoke in tongues and I do not believe Peter commanded any infants there to be baptized, just believers." So - children can't be believers? Maybe this is a problem of deffinition and we need to define our terms. I find it hard to believe that a child under 5 years old understands he is lost, but who's to say it isn't possible? It surprises me that those who believe there is no cognative aspect to salvation will cut it off for children because they haven't the cognative ability to comprehend their lostness. Ir God has choosed whom he wills to be saved, who's to say he didn't save them at a 4 or 5 years old? How old was Samuel when the Holy Spirit began to speak to him? 1/10/08 11:27 AM preacherjond.    • Add new comment • Reply to comment • Report abuse • Groups | Comments GG wrote: PreacherJonD: 1. If I am being lied to, why won't God give me a "Damascus Moment" and show me the truth? 2. Could it me that you believe that I was created for destruction...by a loving God? 3. If I am being lied to, as you say you were, where is my sin? I am acting in good faith. 4. I alway pray that God show me his actual truth regardless of denomination. Do you pray the same way? 1."Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:" 2."The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." 3."If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." 4."But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." "Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again."

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