Great Sermon! It's no surprise that women in general, and Judy below, have difficulty understanding equality of personhood with distinction of roles, since such concept requires reasoning/logical thought; something that women need to be taught by men, which would require submission on the part of the woman. How can women in Judy's position hope to have any understanding whatsoever of the unity of the Trinity (Father, Son, Holy Spirit), yet their distinct roles?
Great Sermon! The comments from Judy are based upon emotion and her perceived ideas of justice and equality, rather than on the biblical text. The Apostles as well as the church for centuries are unequivocal on this matter; it is only in our modern times, wherein feminism, has come into full bloom, that these notions are used to set aside the clear teaching of these texts.
Scripture explains Scripture. Very important the call to pray for all men. But I think Fairbairn oversimplifies things when suggests that Paul used 4 synonyms for prayer in verse 1. I do not agree with the explanation given to verse 4. We must compare Scripture with Scripture. God chose to save the elect. This does not mean an insincere offer of the Gospel when we preach, because only God knows His elect and He will call them effectively. But we are to pray for all people and to testify to all.
Surprising conclusions! Jesus chose to subordinate Himself, but no human ever chooses subordination because humans are not trustworthy. Jesus commanded: â€śAll things ye would that men would do to you, do ye even so to themâ€ť, and: â€śthou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.â€ť Paul said â€śBe kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one anotherâ€ť. Some churches leave these out of their theology of women. James 2:9 says â€śif ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.â€ť See Article 10 of Faith on this website, for example. Respect of persons is prejudice or discrimination. The perception that women are unequal in the church is because they are degraded when they are treated differently. The argument for Adamâ€™s headship is false because of the recurring pattern in scripture where the second born take headship: Isaac over Ishmael, Jacob over Esau, Judah, David and Joseph over their older brothers, and Moses over Aaron. The practice of inequality to women causes abuse because inequality implies inferiority. Instead of one mediator, women have several mediatorsâ€¦a reversion to the papacy. Oddly women have to leave churches to find the glorious liberty of Christ. Let us know when you are ready for us to come back.
Great Sermon! I started this sermon thinking- o feat I didn't want to go here, but actually really challenging and I learnt a lot about the misinterpretation of this verse. Have to add- in circumstances where there is no hope from modern medicine ( yep it happens) - I have seen people healed from certain imminent death by the laying on of hands and application of oil by the elders. Thank you for a good teaching.