"p.s. The JW's just love the NIV, because it denies the deity of Christ."
Actually, the NIV doesn't deny the deity of Christ, and sometimes emphasizes it better:
John 20:28- "Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"
John 8:58- "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"
Rev. 1:8- "I am the Alpha and the Omega" says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." (Note-AV omits "God")
Titus 2:13- "while we wait for the blessed hope-the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ," (Note how this makes unmistakeably clear the deity of Christ, compared to AV which says "the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ")
2 Peter 1:1- "Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who throught the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours." (note the better clarity of the deity of Christ here also, compared to AV which says "..the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:"
Question- Is the power of the Holy Spirit limited to a version in order that God's meaning might be understood?
You used to be happy with the King James until you read this James White article, and now you have far less faith in God's word than you had previously. Man, that's progress! In the wrong direction!
Or has this Mr White recommended a Bible which is accurate through and through? Or, reading between the lines of your post, you now need half a dozen Bibles to study, and hopefully, you might just find God's word in one of them, which you can trust.
Mr White and myself are just fallible men, so if you are willing to listen to one, listen to another.
The King James Bible, known here as the Authorized Version, is the most accurate version of the scriptures in English, and if you follow it you will never end up with false doctrine, because the text it is translated from is the Received Text, which means it is the text received by the church in all ages. All other Bibles use other texts such as Vaticanus and Sinaiticus, and are easily proved to be spurious because of the false doctrines they promote.
p.s. The JW's just love the NIV, because it denies the deity of Christ.
Doesn't James White believe I Timothy 3: 16 should contain the word 'God'? You will find he does indeed.
Now please can you explain why most new versions omitt 'God' in that verse?
I studied with the Watchtower Society and know they abandoned the KJV as it certainly does bring out the deity of Christ like no other bible...consider why they abandoned it for their NWT!
BTW i was offered a NWT in my indoctrinisation studies with the Watchtower but God put it into my heart to decline. I went home and my wife greeted me with these words: I have just been spring cleaning and found my unopened 'christening' bible all dusty (KJV)!
In God's provision I was brought under conviction by that one scripture I Timothy 3: 16 on the deity of Christ having been indoctrinated that Christ was the archangel Michael. Now can you understand why I won't use any version that omitts 'God' in that scripture?
Abandon the kjv if you so wish but you'll find it is proved as a Holy Spirit blessed accurate English translation and the word of God used in all the major revivals. Not bad for such a woeful translation
Can you say the same of the NIV as one example-now the bible of ecumenism but once championed by evangelical scholars as the new best thing?
The verse I was referring to in the previous post concerning Erasmus' challenge is 1st John 5:7. By the way, I used to be KJV-Only so I understand the mindset that relies on needing to believe God's preservation method is via a translation. James White's book, however, gives another view of preservation which for me is a much better foundation than the "through a translation" method.
I just read "The King James Only Controversy" 2nd Printing - 2009 by James White. No other book has ever excited me so much in describing how God has preserved his Word. Every church member should be given the book and even if you are in the KJV-Only camp you should be secure enough to handle the challenges the book presents. The book gave me concern as to how the KJV does not bring out Christ's deity as clear compared to other versions which is why you often need to use a different version when witnessing to Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses. It was interesting to read about Erasmus' challenge for anyone to verify it was a legitimate verse but ended up putting it in his 3rd edition once someone presented a manuscript with it in the margin pointing to where the "verse" should go. I also had no idea the book of Revelation had so many errors in the KJV. I didn't know that Revelation 16:5 had a phrase in the KJV only to be found in the mind of a 16th century man, Beza, and no where else in history. It also briefly touches on why the KJV may be softer on homosexuality than other versions. The book presents the method God actually used to preserve his word rather than the "trust us, the KJV is the standard and we just know it is THE translation" method.
Thanks Thanks especially for making the PDF document available. Very provocative, and biblical. Even as a London Baptist, if any nation were to do as that doc suggests re: WCF, I'd load up the family and move there tomorrow.
the King James Bible is the best Bible one can read(try finding one with all black print, being as Jesus Christ is ALMIGHTY GOD and is the Author of the whole Bible)the niv bible and a lot of these newer bibles are so watered down, they will give one a false pretense that everything is ok in the world. The Old Testament is just as important as the New Testament-the whole Bible is GODS Law Book for every human that will come into existance, the Bible is the only way GOD saves anyone (Romans 10:17)
Peter, Romanism, Satan & The Two Mystery Babylons More fine preaching on the book of Revelation, by Bill Mencarow, exposing Satan deceptions, which are widespread in most modern churches and all nations who continue to wonder after the beast (Revelation 13:3) in these days of great apostasy (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4). "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues" (Revelation 18:4). All Christians will benefit greatly by listening to this whole series on Revelation, which is free in MP3 format at http://www.sermonaudio.com/go/769 on sermonaudio -- for "Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand" (Revelation 1:3).
Globalism, Babylon, Romanism, Islam & Reformation! More powerfully encouraging preaching along the line of classic Reformation thought related to prophecy. Don't miss this sermon, or the complete series on Revelation, which surveys Reformed thought on eschatology using the best Reformed commentaries throughout history. The complete series contains an amazing amount of solid Reformed research and may now be the best contemporary commentary available on the book of Revelation. The whole series (ongoing) is free on MP3 at http://www.sermonaudio.com/go/716 -- worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy (Revelation 19:10).
If only your sermon were heard throughout the Chri A fine sermon. The perverted false doctrine built around Romans 13 has been the greatest find for the communists, and they have made use of it wholesale amongst Christian folk.How do Reformed Christians imagine the Reformation occurred?
My best wishes to you and your compatriots, and I shall keep listening,
More Splendid Reformed Commentary On Revelation! All Christians who are interested in understanding the book of Revelation from the classic Reformation and Puritan perspective will benefit greatly by listening to this whole series by Bill Mencarow (see http://www.sermonaudio.com/go/698 for the complete list of free MP3s in this series). For more classic Reformed and Puritan thought on eschatology also see the free online edition of Iain Murray's The Puritan Hope: Revival and the Interpretation of Prophecy at http://snipurl.com/2c0nk [www_revival-library_org] or at http://www.revival-library.org/index.html?http://www.revival-library.org/catalogues/puritan/murrayi-puritanhope/contents.htm and all the free books and MP3s available at "Antichrist (666) Revealed In Classic Puritan, Reformation and Covenanter Thought" at http://snipurl.com/8wgac [www_swrb_com] or http://www.swrb.com/newslett/freebook/eschatol.htm -- "And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it" (Isa. 2:2).
Humanity has been colonized by a satanic cult called the Illuminati. This cult represents Masonic and Jewish bankers who finagled a monopoly over government credit which allows them to charge interest on funds they create out of nothing.
Naturally they want to protect this prize by translating it into a political and cultural monopoly. This takes the form of a totalitarian world government dedicated to Lucifer, who represents their defiance of God.
We are being re-engineered to serve the Illuminati. They undermine institutions like marriage and religion, and promote depravity, dysfunction, corruption and division. They have orchestrated two world wars and are planning a third.
Rev 17:3 . . . and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
Rev 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
Biblical, Historical, Rational! I deeply commend and revere the Holy Spirit on how He works in the life of W.J. Mencarow in Bible interpretation. It is so objective that a discerning spiritual man could say that such understanding must be Spirit-led and thoroughly retrospected in the fire of the Words of God. I am so blessed Bro. Mencarow! Praise God.