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Pastor W. J. Mencarow  |  Boerne, Texas
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Blog7/5/09 5:28 PM
Mike from New York  Find all comments by Mike
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"It is not the KJV that is the issue, but the TEXTS that Bibles are translated from.

For eg the Rev 1:8 you quoted, the text does not have God in it."

But John, my response was to the issue of whether the deity of Christ was denied in the NIV. But if the text issue is more important than the deity issue, the text that leaves out God in Rev 1:8 obviously shows deity less clearly than the one that includes it. And deity was the subject brought up.

In any case, it isn't an issue for me. That's why I use the KJV in discussions on SA. It keeps from getting sidetracked into pointless version stuff.

But just for fun,

1 Timothy 6:10 KJV
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."

Since the love of money is not the root of ALL evil, what might we conclude?


Blog7/5/09 2:15 PM
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http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/deity.htm

Phil 2.6 AND Rev 1: 8 and 11

Mike I haven't time to write in detail but check out the above site and texts and compare the NIV with the NWT and then the KJV

Don't forget I Timothy 3: 16


Blog7/5/09 2:09 PM
John UK from Wales  Find all comments by John UK
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"p.s. The JW's just love the NIV, because it denies the deity of Christ."

Actually, the NIV doesn't deny the deity of Christ, and sometimes emphasizes it better:

Actually Mike, the NIV does deny the deity of Christ. Think about it, bro. If you wanted to create a Bible which subtly creeps in unawares, and fools the Christian into believing it, even though it denies the deity of Christ, how would you do it? You start changing one or two verses only. The NWT is denied by the whole of evangelical Christendom because it was too obvious. But I assure you that the NIV will be shown in the history of the world to be one more stepping stone for Satan to infiltrate the churches, and desensitise them to what is coming next. Remember that the NIV has gone through several phases already, and in a few years time, you will see Bibles which are more blatantly heretical. Trouble is, who will notice it? Many folks are on the slippery slope already, and those who say we can have God's Word in our hand are continually being poo-poo'd by the devil's advocates, including me at one time. Thankfully I woke up and realised what was happening.

It is not the KJV that is the issue, but the TEXTS that Bibles are translated from.

For eg the Rev 1:8 you quoted, the text does not have God in it.


Blog7/5/09 1:47 PM
Mike from New York  Find all comments by Mike
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"p.s. The JW's just love the NIV, because it denies the deity of Christ."

Actually, the NIV doesn't deny the deity of Christ, and sometimes emphasizes it better:

John 20:28- "Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"

John 8:58- "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"

Rev. 1:8- "I am the Alpha and the Omega" says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." (Note-AV omits "God")

Titus 2:13- "while we wait for the blessed hope-the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ," (Note how this makes unmistakeably clear the deity of Christ, compared to AV which says "the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ")

2 Peter 1:1- "Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who throught the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours."
(note the better clarity of the deity of Christ here also, compared to AV which says "..the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:"

Question- Is the power of the Holy Spirit limited to a version in order that God's meaning might be understood?


Blog7/5/09 11:17 AM
John UK from Wales  Find all comments by John UK
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So Rik

You used to be happy with the King James until you read this James White article, and now you have far less faith in God's word than you had previously. Man, that's progress! In the wrong direction!

Or has this Mr White recommended a Bible which is accurate through and through? Or, reading between the lines of your post, you now need half a dozen Bibles to study, and hopefully, you might just find God's word in one of them, which you can trust.

Mr White and myself are just fallible men, so if you are willing to listen to one, listen to another.

The King James Bible, known here as the Authorized Version, is the most accurate version of the scriptures in English, and if you follow it you will never end up with false doctrine, because the text it is translated from is the Received Text, which means it is the text received by the church in all ages. All other Bibles use other texts such as Vaticanus and Sinaiticus, and are easily proved to be spurious because of the false doctrines they promote.

p.s. The JW's just love the NIV, because it denies the deity of Christ.


Blog7/5/09 11:11 AM
wayne from uk  Find all comments by wayne
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rlk

Doesn't James White believe I Timothy 3: 16 should contain the word 'God'? You will find he does indeed.

Now please can you explain why most new versions omitt 'God' in that verse?

I studied with the Watchtower Society and know they abandoned the KJV as it certainly does bring out the deity of Christ like no other bible...consider why they abandoned it for their NWT!

BTW i was offered a NWT in my indoctrinisation studies with the Watchtower but God put it into my heart to decline. I went home and my wife greeted me with these words: I have just been spring cleaning and found my unopened 'christening' bible all dusty (KJV)!

In God's provision I was brought under conviction by that one scripture I Timothy 3: 16 on the deity of Christ having been indoctrinated that Christ was the archangel Michael. Now can you understand why I won't use any version that omitts 'God' in that scripture?

Abandon the kjv if you so wish but you'll find it is proved as a Holy Spirit blessed accurate English translation and the word of God used in all the major revivals. Not bad for such a woeful translation

Can you say the same of the NIV as one example-now the bible of ecumenism but once championed by evangelical scholars as the new best thing?


Blog7/5/09 11:00 AM
rlk from Tennessee  Find all comments by rlk
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The verse I was referring to in the previous post concerning Erasmus' challenge is 1st John 5:7.
By the way, I used to be KJV-Only so I understand the mindset that relies on needing to believe God's preservation method is via a translation. James White's book, however, gives another view of preservation which for me is a much better foundation than the "through a translation" method.

Blog7/5/09 10:43 AM
rlk from Tennessee  Find all comments by rlk
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I just read "The King James Only Controversy" 2nd Printing - 2009 by James White. No other book has ever excited me so much in describing how God has preserved his Word. Every church member should be given the book and even if you are in the KJV-Only camp you should be secure enough to handle the challenges the book presents.
The book gave me concern as to how the KJV does not bring out Christ's deity as clear compared to other versions which is why you often need to use a different version when witnessing to Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses. It was interesting to read about Erasmus' challenge for anyone to verify it was a legitimate verse but ended up putting it in his 3rd edition once someone presented a manuscript with it in the margin pointing to where the "verse" should go. I also had no idea the book of Revelation had so many errors in the KJV. I didn't know that Revelation 16:5 had a phrase in the KJV only to be found in the mind of a 16th century man, Beza, and no where else in history.
It also briefly touches on why the KJV may be softer on homosexuality than other versions.
The book presents the method God actually used to preserve his word rather than the "trust us, the KJV is the standard and we just know it is THE translation" method.

Sermon6/22/09 2:07 PM
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Government vs. God
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“ Thanks ”
Thanks especially for making the PDF document available. Very provocative, and biblical. Even as a London Baptist, if any nation were to do as that doc suggests re: WCF, I'd load up the family and move there tomorrow.

Blog2/3/09 5:52 PM
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Dear Sir,

God owns what?

Yours sincerely,

Phillip A. Jones.


Blog2/1/09 2:07 PM
dwj from omaha  Find all comments by dwj
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the King James Bible is the best Bible one can read(try finding one with all black print, being as Jesus Christ is ALMIGHTY GOD and is the Author of the whole Bible)the niv bible and a lot of these newer bibles are so watered down, they will give one a false pretense that everything is ok in the world. The Old Testament is just as important as the New Testament-the whole Bible is GODS Law Book for every human that will come into existance, the Bible is the only way GOD saves anyone (Romans 10:17)

Sermon1/26/09 10:27 PM
truthfinder3 from OAKLAND  Find all comments by truthfinder3
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“ Great Sermon! ”
I agree about that part about whether it was the real Samuel. That's a good example of God's Sovereignty! :) :) :)

Sermon1/24/09 11:41 PM
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“ Peter, Romanism, Satan & The Two Mystery Babylons ”
More fine preaching on the book of Revelation, by Bill Mencarow, exposing Satan deceptions, which are widespread in most modern churches and all nations who continue to wonder after the beast (Revelation 13:3) in these days of great apostasy (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4). "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues" (Revelation 18:4). All Christians will benefit greatly by listening to this whole series on Revelation, which is free in MP3 format at http://www.sermonaudio.com/go/769 on sermonaudio -- for "Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand" (Revelation 1:3).

Sermon1/9/09 8:55 AM
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“ Sovereign God. ”
God is sovereign over the enemies of His church.

Sermon1/6/09 7:29 AM
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“ Great God of the church. ”
A good reminder that God had always a faithful remnant of believers in history, that Satan cannot destroy the church.

Sermon1/4/09 11:11 AM
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“ Globalism, Babylon, Romanism, Islam & Reformation! ”
More powerfully encouraging preaching along the line of classic Reformation thought related to prophecy. Don't miss this sermon, or the complete series on Revelation, which surveys Reformed thought on eschatology using the best Reformed commentaries throughout history. The complete series contains an amazing amount of solid Reformed research and may now be the best contemporary commentary available on the book of Revelation. The whole series (ongoing) is free on MP3 at http://www.sermonaudio.com/go/716 -- worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy (Revelation 19:10).

Sermon12/27/08 10:49 PM
Harry Girling from Cumbria, Englnd  Contact via emailFind all comments by Harry Girling
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“ If only your sermon were heard throughout the Chri ”
A fine sermon. The perverted false doctrine built around Romans 13 has been the greatest find for the communists, and they have made use of it wholesale amongst Christian folk.How do Reformed Christians imagine the Reformation occurred? My best wishes to you and your compatriots, and I shall keep listening, Harry

Sermon12/19/08 6:03 PM
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“ More Splendid Reformed Commentary On Revelation! ”
All Christians who are interested in understanding the book of Revelation from the classic Reformation and Puritan perspective will benefit greatly by listening to this whole series by Bill Mencarow (see http://www.sermonaudio.com/go/698 for the complete list of free MP3s in this series). For more classic Reformed and Puritan thought on eschatology also see the free online edition of Iain Murray's The Puritan Hope: Revival and the Interpretation of Prophecy at http://snipurl.com/2c0nk [www_revival-library_org] or at http://www.revival-library.org/index.html?http://www.revival-library.org/catalogues/puritan/murrayi-puritanhope/contents.htm and all the free books and MP3s available at "Antichrist (666) Revealed In Classic Puritan, Reformation and Covenanter Thought" at http://snipurl.com/8wgac [www_swrb_com] or http://www.swrb.com/newslett/freebook/eschatol.htm -- "And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it" (Isa. 2:2).

Sermon12/5/08 9:48 PM
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“ A1, Minister! ”
Thank God that there are true Ministers of God still operating somewhere in the world.

Blog10/31/08 11:52 PM
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Exodus 19:5 Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be a special treasure to Me above all people; for all the earth is Mine.

Psalm 50:12 “If I were hungry, I would not tell you; For the world is Mine, and all its fullness.

Leviticus 25:23 ‘The land shall not be sold permanently, for the land is Mine; for you are strangers and sojourners with Me.

Haggai 2:8 ‘The silver is Mine, and the gold is Mine,’ says the LORD of hosts.

Ezekiel 18:4 “ Behold, all souls are Mine; The soul of the father As well as the soul of the son is Mine; The soul who sins shall die.

Psalm 50:10 For every beast of the forest is Mine, And the cattle on a thousand hills.

All things belong to God, those who think they own what they seem to have do not. The land shall not always be sold to another, God will reclaim what is His and those who are His! Hallelujah!

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