Much needed Sermon! Oh,If only most of the men who stand in pulpits each Sabbath, listened and learned from this sermon there would be much less of the nonesence that is offered to gulible congregations each week as Biblical exposition. Particularily men like Rod Bell who uses scripture in a most dreadful manner. When the Biblical methods of interpretation and substituted for quessword any heresy can be taught with the statement "The Blble says". This sermon sets out Biblical rules of interpretation showing ministers how to be faithful to Scripture and so not be found among those who tell a lie in the name of the LORD. Proper handling of Scripture would unite God's true people around the truth as it is in Jesus. Listen to this sermon and learn how to identify false prophets.
Great Sermon! An excellent biblical sermon dealing with the devastation in Southeast Asia. Pastor Silversides touches on each important topic, with brevity, yet with the depth of Scriptural truth as well. He deals with our own sins as nations and brings home the great truth that we all deserve just such a judgment from God! May He have mercy on our land!
Great Lecture! the reference for the quotation comes originally from:(before quoted)
(The Acts Of The
Generall Assemblies Of The Church Of Scotland [1638-1649 inclusive], 4 June
1644, Session 7, "The Letter from the Synod of Divines in the Kirk of England, tothe General Assembly", SWRB reprint, 1997, pp. 231, 232. The original spelling and punctuation have been retained, emphases added).
Great Lecture! Thougn not particularly highlighted in this lecture. It is also important to note the United States and Canada are also bound by this covenant.
(From the Covenanted Reformation Defended by Greg Barrow)
a. Note who the "all posterity" (as mentioned in the Solemn League and Covenant)includes in a letter written by the Westminster Assembly and sent to the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland (1644):
"Those Winds which for a while do trouble the Aire, do withall purge and refine it: And our trust is that through the most wise Providence and blessing of God, the Truth by our so long continued agitations, will be better cleared among us, and so our service will prove more acceptable to all the Churches of Christ, but more
especially to you, while we have an intentive eye to our peculiar Protestation, and to that public Sacred Covenant [i.e. the Solemn League and Covenant - GLP]
entered into by both the Kingdomes [Ireland is not formally omitted here, but is omitted only because this English Assembly is addressing the Scottish General Assembly - GLP], for Uniformity in all his Majesties Dominions"
'God that cannot lie' I had read on in Calvin and have no problem with the section you quote. I do have a problem with what you say, Sean. The difference between the two is: 1. Calvin explains anthrpomorphisms, you explain them away. 2. Calvin shows anthropomorphisms to be saying, in human terms, something that is true of God; you treat them as displaying something that is not true-"appears...God is showing compassion" (Sean 31/10/04), "appears as a presentation of mercy for all"(Sean 5/11/04). When Calvin used the words "compassion" and "kindness"(see DS 30/10/04), he is not speaking of a mere pretence of these, but of real Divine kindness etc. albeit sometimes expressed in the terminology of human kindness. Would you be happy if a pretended free offer is preached but not a real one? I appeal to you, Sean, to draw back from attributing falsehood to God. (Titus 1:2, Heb 6:18). The term "will of God" is used in two senses: 1. That which God has decreed to happen (always fulfilled; Dan 4:35, Eph 1:11, Rom 9:19, James 4:15). 2. That which God commands (not always fulfilled; Mat 7:21,12:50, Luke 12:47, John 7:17). See Calvin on Joel 2:11. On Mat 23:37, note 'ye' in 'ye would not' is plural and relates to the children (pl), not Jerusalem (sing) or 'thy' (sing). AV older pronouns usefully reflect the Greek.
Read all Calvin on Matt 23:37 Sean ignores what Calvin teaches as to the cause of Christ's indignation, rejected offers of mercy: "The city itself, indeed, over which he had lately wept(Luke 19:41) is still an object of his compassion...If in Jerusalem the grace of God had been merely rejected, there would have been inexcusable ingratitude; but since God attempted to draw the Jews to himself by mild and gentle methods, and gained nothing by his kindness,the criminality of such haughty disdain was far more aggrivated...with far greater familiarity and kindness, he invites us to himself by his Son. And therefore, whenever he exibits to us the doctrine of the Gospel, dreadful vengeance awaits us, if we do not quietly hide ourselves under his wings, by which he is ready to receive and shelter us" (Calvin Com. on Mat 23:37). The identity of "thy children" is clear from Luke 19:44, "And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee" - not the elect, since the believers heeded Christ's warning (Mat 24:15-20) and fled the destruction of Jerusalem. So Thomas Manton: "With what passionatenes and meltingness of expression he wooeth men to return...Mat 23:37...yet such an affection God beareth to us that he expostulates, prayeth, entreateth that we would return and be reconciled" (vol.21 p.469f.)
Calvin & Augustine on Matthew 23:37 Rev. Silversides: With 2 Peter 3 & 1 Timothy 2 out of the picture. Lets examine another of the texts (Matthew 23:36 'Jerusalem, Jerusalem') espoused by proponents of the 'free offer'
'By these words, Christ shows more clearly what good reason he had for indignation, that Jerusalem, which God had chosen to be his sacred ... abode, not only had shown itself to be unworthy of so great an honour, but ...had long been accustomed to suck the blood of the prophets. Christ therefore utters a pathetic exclamation at a sight so monstrous ... Christ does not reproach them with merely one or another murder, but says that this custom was ...deeply rooted.... This is expressive of indignation rather than compassion.'
Augustine points out: 'And where is that omnipotence which hath done all that it pleased on earth and in heaven, if God willed to gather together the children of Jerusalem, and did not accomplish it? Or rather, Jerusalem was not willing that her children should be gathered together, but even though she was unwilling, He gathered together as many of her children as He wished: for He does not will some things and do them, and will others and do them not; but â€˜He hath done all that He pleased in heaven and in earthâ€™ (The Enchiridion xcvii)
Great Sermon! Another great sermon from Rev. Silversides. With all of the flights of fancy dealing with the man of sin in today's church this is a much needed dose of medicine. As Rev. Silversides states in his sermon, this truth needs to be proclaimed from the pulpits and taught to our children! It is the very truth of God and not the invention of any man!
A Very Good Presentation I deeply appreciate the humility and charity toward others that Rev. Silversides took while giving arguements for exclusive psalmody.
We need to appreciate the Word of God more and trust Him to give us what is good. Because bibles are so readily available, we take the Word of God for granted. We also take for granted our freedom to worship publically. I believe the USA will have to see plenty of severe persecution before the Church takes the regulative principle of worship and God's commands seriously. It's hard for me to believe that as depraved as man is that God would leave him to his own in the realm of song in worship. May we remember our ancestors who had their tongues cut out and went to the gallows with bloody mouths singing these psalms, making melody in their hearts and really understanding that melody since they could no longer enunciate. Here we have churches all over our country using their tongues to sing their own selfish and even some blasphemous inventions, when such a beautiful songbook and heritage was given to us. May the Church love God's songbook - the inspired Psalms! Thank you so much for this beautiful, well done message.
No argument with John Knox. I agree that 1 Tim 2:4 refers to the elect, since vs.1 & 2 indicate all kinds of men are in view. Otherwise v.6 would have to teach universal atonement, contrary to Scripture. But why does Sean think this relevant, if not because he continues to assume that the free offer cannot be consistent with absolute predestination? I have never based the free offer on 1 Tim 2:4, or indeed 2 Pet 3:9. The Reformed free offer is not based on any idea that God has determined to save any but the elect, but on the freeness of God to show mercy as he pleases, including non-saving mercies to the reprobate in this life, of which the gracious offer of the Gospel is one.
"Nor doth God miscarry in this love. He sends the Gospel to many reprobates and invites them to repentance and with longanimity and forebearance suffereth pieces of froward dust to fill the measure of their iniquity yet doth not the Lord's general love fall short of what he willeth them" (Samuel Rutherford, Christ Dying & Drawing Sinners To Himself p.441 section on 'No Love of God Ineffectual')
John Knox on the 'Free Offer' of the Gospel Rev. Silversides,
Prehaps these quotes from John Knox would be helpful for the discussion:
Anabaptist assertion 2: 'God wills all men to be saved' Knox Replies: `The Apostle in these words: `God willeth all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth' speaketh not of every man, and of every particular person, but of all men in general, that is to say, of men of all estates, all conditions, all realms, and all ages.'
Anabaptist assertion 4: `God will be entreated of all, He biddeth all men everywhere to repent, and offers faith to all men' Knox replies: `True it is that God is merciful, gentle, liberal, Protector, Refuge, and Life to all. But to which all? To such as hate iniquity, love virtue, lament for their sins past, call upon his name in verity, and do unfeignedly seek for his help in the day of their trouble. Of these no doubt, he will be entreated, how wicked and unthankful so ever they have been before. But by the contrary, he will destroy all that speak lies. He hateth all that work iniquity:..And thus I say, you shall never be able to prove that God will be entreated of all, except you can confute the Holy Ghost, and make Him recant these and other innumerable places.' `On Predestination' Knox Works Vol. 5 SWRB Edmonton N.D. p.403-410
Divine Sovereignty in the Free Offer The line of reasoning Sean and others use is:
1.Assume absolute predestination and the free offer are incompatible.
2. Quote Scripture and Reformers teaching absolute predestination.
3. Conclude that Scripture and Reformers are opposed to the free offer.
The falsehood lies in point 1. The free offer is an expression of God's common grace (ie. those blessings he bestows in this life on elect and reprobate). That they result in greater guilt does not alter their nature as blessings. Sean needs to submit to God's sovereignty in common as well as saving grace. Then he will be a real Calvinist.
"The Holy Ghost maketh a plain difference betwixt the graces and mercies which are common to all and that sovereign mercy reserved to the chosen children" (Knox/Predestination p.87)
"The invitation to the wedding...teaches that the king wills(ie commands and desires) the invited to come...but not that the king intends or has decreed that they should really come" (Turretin Vol 2 p509)
"None shall drink so deep of the cup of God's indignation as those who have refused Christ in the Gospel...He that abuseth the choicest of mercies shall have judgement without mercy. What can help those who have refused the counsel of God for their good?" (Owen Vol.8 p39 see also vol.12 p552).
John Knox `On Predestination' Calvin makes it clear in His Commentary on Ezekiel 18:23 that â€˜God does not wish the conversion of the reprobate. Calvin writesâ€¦ â€˜Since, therefore, repentance is a kind of second creation, it follows that it is not in manâ€™s power; and if it is equally in Godâ€™s power to convert men as well as to create them, it follows that the reprobate are not converted, because God does not wish their conversion; for if he wished it he could do it: and hence it appears that he does not wish it.â€™ Turretin supports this conclusion by saying â€˜Although God declares that he â€˜does not will the death of the wicked, but that he turn from his way and live,â€™ it does not follow that he has willed and planned from eternity the conversion and life of everyone, [even] subject to any condition, for ... it is certain that this refers to Godâ€™s will as commanding, not to the will of his good pleasure....â€™ With regards to II Peter 3:9, Turretin follows Augustine in seeing Godâ€™s desire for the salvation of the elect alone when he points out â€˜The will of God here spoken of should not be extended further than to the elect and believers, for whose sake God puts off the consummation of ages, until their number shall be completed.' Rev. Silversides could you comment on John Knox and the idea of a gracious offer?
Calvin teaches the Free Offer Sean may have noticed that I have not used the word 'will' in connection with the Free Offer. That Calvin saw no contradiction between absolute predestination and a gracious free offer is clear from the sample quotations below.
Calvin writing on Ezekiel 18:23 not long before his death (he was unable to complete his commentary on Ezekiel) says:
"The prophet does not here speak of Godâ€™s secret counsel but only recalls miserable men from despair that they may apprehend the hope of pardon and repent and embrace the offered salvation."
On Matt. 3:3:
"But the very sight of a visible wilderness must have had a powerful effect on stupid and hardened men, leading them to perceive that they were in a state of death, and to accept the promise of salvation, which had been held out to them."
On Acts 13:46:
"He accuseth them (the Jews) of unthankfulness, because, whereas they were chosen by God out of all people, that Christ might offer himself unto them, they refuse so great a benefit maliciouslyâ€¦because they do so willingly cast from them so great a grace."
See also Calvin's commentaries on Genesis 17:7; 2 Peter 3:9; Matthew 12:44; Hebrews 2:12 and 3:13 and prayer before 123rd lecture on Jeremiah etc.
Calvin Vs. Pighius 'Does God desire the salvation of the reprobate?' It seems that the central issue of the Free Offer controversy is whether God wills the salvation of those He has reprobated to hell. I think John Calvin put it best when he wrote in his treatise on the Eternal Predestination of God 'But Paul teaches us (continues Georgius) that God "would have all men to be saved." It follows therefore, according to his understanding of that passage, either that God is disappointed in His wishes, or that all men without exception must be saved. If he should reply that God wills all men to be saved on His part, or as far as He is concerned, seeing that Salvation is, nevertheless, left to the free will of each individual, I, in return, ask him why, if such be the case, God did not command the Gospel to be preached to all men indiscriminately from the beginning of the world? why He suffered so many generations of men to wander for so many ages in all the darkness of death?' (A Treatise on the Eternal Predestination of God, RFPA, p. 166)
Great Sermon! Of the few sermons regarding the "(British)Identity Movement" on sermonaudio.com, this is the best one. Rev. Silversides quickly dispelled any idea that the "lost tribes" where wholly lost by a pointing to the sizeable number of references to these tribes in both the Old and New Testaments after their dispersion. However, his conclusion that today's current Jews comprise the whole of the remaining tribes appears to be not easily supported scriptually.
Great Sermon! Another awesome sermon by Pastor Silversides. When we lose the knowledge of God we lose everything else along with it. Not until the church begins to again recognize the sovereignty of God will we see His blessings poured out on His people. This makes all the difference in our life, our worship our church government and our civil government. May God grant us greater understanding of who He is and what we are!
Great Sermon! Another wonderful example of faithful preaching on a topic that is much ignored in our day! Without a God who is righteous we are lost! Without a God who is Holy we are left in our sin and depravity! Our deepest longing should be to know this Righteous God in all of His glory and righteousness and ourselves in our sin and wickedness! May the Lord continue to bring us sermons of this caliber and may He richly bless Pastor Silversides.