Many memorable illustrations and quotes Phil Fernandes debates an atheist Dan Barker (a former professed Christian) and tears his arguments apart in a large number of areas (the origin of moral values, arguments about the 2nd law of thermodynamics, the equality of women, Hitler being a Christian, etc).
The debate is very long (around 2 hours total), but there is a lot of useful information here.
Throughout the debate, Fernandes comes out with many significant, memorable quotes:
Atheist: 'the bible puts down women. It was written by sexist men. you should be ashamed to hold that under your arm' Fernandes: 'the bible says that women were created in the image of God. atheism says they evolved from some primortial soup... she's just some molecules in motion; so I think that Christianity has a higher view of women than atheism does'
Fernandes: "either in the beginning God... or in the beginning NOTHING"
When asked why they were there (what the point of the debate was) Fernandes said it was like he found a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow that he wanted to share with his brothers... and he said he didn't know why the atheist was there.
Very good Phil Fernandes debates an atheist Dan Barker (once a professed Christian) and tears the his arguments apart in a large number of different areas (arguments about the 2nd law of thermodynamics, Hitler being a Christian, the issue of the equality of women, the big bang, the origin of moral values, etc).
The debate is very long (around 2 hours total), but there is a lot of useful information.
Throughout the debate, Fernandes comes out with some very significant, memorable quotes:
Atheist: 'the bible puts down women. It was written by sexist men. you should be ashamed to hold that under your arm'
Fernandes: 'the bible says that women were created in the image of God. Atheism says they evolved from some primortial soup... she's just some molecules in motion; so I think that Christianity has a higher view of women than atheism does'
Fernandes: "either in the beginning God... or in the beginning NOTHING"
When asked why they were there Fernandes said it was like he had a pot of gold he wanted to share with his brothers... and he didn't know why the atheist was there.
Great Lecture Series! I couldn't agree more with Tim from Minnesota. Dr. Fernandes offers a condensed yet meticulous survey of the history of Christian thought. This comprehensive series could very well be Dr. Fernandes' Magnum opus.
Great Sermon! This is the first part of an excellent series on the History of Christian Thought. Dr. Fernandes summarizes volumes of primary source material for those of us who have a full schedule and cannot do it ourselves. Thank you, Dr. Fernandes, for making this material available to us.
Interesting Speaker I like listening to Fernandes' prophecy lectures, even though I still hold to the pretrib rapture. He's never nasty or rude to those Christians who hold contrary views. The Matthew 24:29 verse still puzzles me. There is no way that our Lord could possibly rapture the Church as He is descending to the Mount of Olives. How could that be?
Exceptional! The speaker displayed exceptional courtesy with those who hold to the pre-trib rapture viewpoint. He argued well for his posttrib views, but I still feel the pretrib view is the right viewpoint. How could Jesus return to Jerusalem while also rapturing His followers at the same time? What about Matthew 24:29?
Additional information The book Dr. Fernandes refers to at the beginning of this sermon is called "The Forgotten Trinity" by James R. White, ISBN 1556617259. As of this post, it is available at Amazon.
Very helpful... Good sermon. Please listen!
It is very common (in my experience) to hear in church that ANY judgment is wrong. But, listen, this statement is self-refuting. If nobody can judge, then how someone can judge me saying that I'm wrong judging others.
I like Phil Fernandes. I agree on most issues with him. He is a great man.
Great Info! Another good end-times lecture on the One World religious syncretism and the coming UR organization, setting up a New World Religion for the false prophet. The specific content of this lecture is not something one hears often enough from today's pulpits.
Great Insight! Yep. Right on target. I did a google search and found all ten regional blocs. In fact, the South Asian Union, East Asian Union, Central Asian Union and the South American Union are forming as we speak. World Net Daily has also been reporting on the SPP project pointing to the North American Union which is to come in 2010 as the North American Community. Here in Texas we have been vigorously protesting to Governor Perry against the Trans Texas Corridor (TTC) which will form the North American Union superhighway to run from Lazaro Cardenas, Mexico on the Pacific Ocean to Churchill, Canada on the Hudson Bay.
Great Sermon! Dr, Fernandes offers a good introduction to an interesting, but much abused topic. I recommend 'The Rising Beast' series for all concerned Christians. As Christians reaching out to non-believers, we can use this information -what I call eschatological apologetics- to persuade others to come to Christ and to convince them of the veracity of Bible prophecy, e.g. the 'ten horns' of Daniel 7:23-24 and Revelation 17:12-13, ten regional blocs now forming throughout the world; RFID biochip technology called VeriChip of Applied Digital Solutions, pointing to the forthcoming mark of the beast; earthquakes increasing exponentially in magnitude since the '90s; the rise of the New World Religion with such religious leaders as Episcopalian Bishop William Swing and Yona Metzger, the Chief Rabbi of Israel, leading the effort to create an United Religions Organization. All these things are concurrently developing in our time. Coincidence? I think not.
Great Sermon! Thank you Dr. Fernandes for correctly identifying the 'Ten Horns' of Daniel and Revelation. It is my hope that more Evangelical pastors and laypersons will also pick up on this remarkable eschatological development. This is the first time in world history that the entire world is being arranged into ten regional economic and political blocs. Is a major Bible prophecy on the verge of fulfillment? Are these the 'Ten Horns'?:
1)European Union -1993 Maastricht Treaty
2)African Union -2002 Durban Treaty
3)North American Union - 2010/2015?
4)South American Union - 2010/2015?
5)Middle East Union - 2013/2018?
6)East Asian Union - 2013/2018?
7)Central Asian Union - 2013/2018?
8)South Asian Union - 2013/2018?
9)Asian Pacific Union - 2013/2018?
10)EurAsian Union(Russian Federation)
Good Radio Show I really enjoyed the radio host Fernandes' interview with Tal. I have an old copy of Tal Brooke's book, 'When The World Will Be As One' and 'Avatar of Night'. As a former practioner of TM, I find Tal as an inspiration for those of us who left Eastern religious practices for the only God-Man and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Great Sermon! consideration of early church teacher's meanings understood might help perception of the word's reality in our present application, note woe unto you for looking to the world for what is to come...
Interesting The audio quality was poor and this sermon was hard to hear online (fades in and out and plays with feedback). The subject is vital and it is one that needs to be explored. Although all of the individuals associated with the Word-Faith movement are not false teachers, many of the most visible ones are misleading millions with unscriptual teachings and practices. Since many of the TV evangelists are from this movement, this topic is underadressed in our churches today.