Great Sermon! Thank you Dr. Stewart, I have believed in the post trib rapture for many years now, but you cleared much confusion on my understanding of the relationship between Israel and the Church. I personally believe that the church will be on the earth during the time of the wrath but will be protected through it just as Israel was protected during the ten plagues of Egypt. Actually I found that the seven trumpets and the seven bowls of God's Wrath (14 in all) actually amount to 10 distinct judgements as 4 of the 14 judgements overlap or are one and the same! So I think that Israel in Egypt during the 10 plague judgements is a picture of the Church in the World during the time of wrath. 10 seems to be the number of testing in scripture. Thanks again and the Lord bless you as you continue in the Word, sincerely Paul Gowdy.
Great Sermon! I've always leaned toward pre and am not sure that is from teaching I received after believing, (certainly was not from my Catholic upbringing as all thing Biblical were brand new to me after my encounter with the Living God in Christ Jesus), or it is my desire?? So I honestly say I am not persuaded yet...at one point a few years ago I read a book by a believing Jewish man who changed his view to Pre wrath..it made a lot of sense when I read it.
Nevertheless, after listening to the sermon a little while ago entitled...Six things the lost know after death....I think I would rather be here for the trib. just for my lost family members to show them this is all God's plan as shown in His Word. I will listen again to this with my Bible and notebook in front of me to learn more. Thanks for the sermon, Janine
Great Sermon! this is a touchy topic, but much needed.
The devil can take your body but not your soul if you are saved.
My brother went missing and we believe that he killed himself.
He suffered from bi polar and was a confessing born again Christian.
My hope is that I will see him again.
read Romans 8:38-39.
Questionable Charles writes: I am usually quite happy with Dr. Stewart's sermons. This one, however, troubles me. I fear that someone who hears this particular teaching and is looking for a way to circumvent their cross and/or to escape their troubles on this earth will believe it and end up in eternal misery. I do not understand how anyone could believe that the Holy Spirit would be slack in keeping God's people from total and final despair and allow their living hope to be eclipsed so that they would take their own lives. In the case of suicide, truly a statement of utter hopelessness and unbelief, we must never conclude that the perpetrator is born again. Dr. Stewart responds: Thanks, Charles, for your thoughts. Suicide is a very emotional subject for all of us. One must not assume that the Holy Spirit has failed whenever one of God's people commits sin. Humans make mistakes. I would agree that suicide is sin (its unbelief and disobedience are both sin). The Biblical record, however, does not indicate that this or any other sin has the power to terminate the redemptive grace and love of our Risen Lord once we have received it. "Eternal misery" is reserved for those who reject Christ, not for the People of God who stumble because of unbelief and disobedience in their final hour.
Great Sermon! Excellent! Very useful. The sermon refutes the main "factoids" in the Da Vinci Code without getting overly technical. If you know somebody who has been confused or convinced by the "historical facts" of the Da Vinci Code, get him/her to listen to this.
Great Sermon! This preacher has done a wonderful job bringing this wonderful message to the church. If this message is digested and active in our lives, our minds will be fixed upon pure and good and holy things so that we might keep our minds and hearts fixed upon God and good things. In my opinion this is an excellent message that has come from the Lord God through the preacher who preached it so well. Bless you, Brother, for being obedient.
Great Sermon! That makes sense about the USA. I've listened to many people speculate on why the USA is not mentioned. You back up your thoughts with scripture and admit that you may not be exactly right.
Great Sermon! This is a miracle in itself. A pastor preaching something other than pre-trib. I have been shunned by so many of my brothers and sisters for saying that the pretrib rapture is not biblically sound.
It blesses my heart also of the many people that are beginning to read the Bible and allow the Holy Spirit to teach them God's Truth. In Deuteronomy 8:3. Moses teaches the Children of Israel that they must live by "every" word that proceeds from the mouth of God. In Matthew 4:4, Jesus tells the same thing to the devil. We must live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God, that which is told in His Word.
I only have one question that still has not been answered by any pretribber to which I have asked this question. Please tell me the Scripture that says that Jesus will come before the great tribulation.
As a friend told me, If its not in the Word, its not meant to be heard.
Blessings to you Pastor Stewart you will be blessed. Send some of those mighty men of valor to the Northwest.
Dr. Stewart comments: Thanks, Mary, for your kind words. Actually, I had the joy of preaching a revival in Hamilton, WA several years ago. I loved both your state and the wonderful people I met there! Blessings all!
2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth I started listening to the sermon--got about 1/4 through it--then turned it off and just read my Bible--the scriptures that were referenced in the message. Might come back and listen more--but what I would recommend people do if they question someone's teaching is to be a Biblical Berean--study the scriptures for themselves--
BTW--I am a pre-tribualtionist/pre-millennialist--a born again Jewish believer in Jesus my personal Saviour and Lord.
Also--the Church has not replaced Israel --Israel is still God's "covenant people"--His "earthly" people. The Church is the Bride of Christ, and His "heavenly people". God did not promise an earthly Kingdom to the Church.
Dr. Stewart responds: Thanks, Linda, for your comments. I, too, agree that Israel is God's unique, covenant people. I reject Replacement Theology completely. However, the early Church Fathers (and I believe Jesus and Paul) all seem to expect the Bride of Christ to join Israel in the Great Tribulation. I challenge you to read Mat. 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. Following Jesus' chronology, the Rapture and ingathering of Believers definitely follows the Great Tribulation. The more we get back to the clear meaning of the words of the New Testament, the more compelling is the Post-Trib position.
Great Sermon! Pretty informative message about the differences between Christianity and the Islamic religion. It's real easy for those who do not study the bible, to get the two beliefs mixed up, and become confused. But Dr. Stewart puts it straight, and points out the contrast between the two. Great word in this clip. God bless you, and future listeners.
Great Sermon! It was a good sermon. The points were very enligthen and practical to apply for our daily communion with our Father to get the best result in our prayer. Sometimes we have neglected these very important aspects of prayer and end up into frustration...but thanks for the four secrets that had been revealed to us.
Agreement with George Luechauer I agree wholeheartedly with George...I have learned however, that it is best not to argue this point. True christians should be more concerned with abiding in Christ Jesus at this time so that we are producing much fruit and showing Christ to a lost world and an increasingly growing apostate church who is showing the world more and more that the true gospel is not the answer. By living the gospel, Christ will convince other of the truth through us; not through useless debating. It's time we start loving one another. Christ's coming is indeed soon!
Interesting, but...! This is what happens when one abandons â€śrightly dividing the word of truth,â€ť in this case failing to understand the dispensational differences between Godâ€™s plan for Israel and His plan for the church. The events described in 1 Thess. 4 and 1 Cor. 15 are vastly different from Matthew 24. Whyâ€”Jesus was not teaching the rapture, he was addressing the nation of Israel. In Luke 4 Jesus already taught the Jews that God was going to temporarily set aside the nation of Israel and work through a predominately gentile church until it was time to restore Israel and establish the promised earthly Kingdom. Matthew 24 describes how that will happen. Jesus sent Paul to explain the â€śmysteryâ€ť of the Church Age including the rapture.
Dr. Stewart responds: Thanks, George, for listening to the message. You have done an excellent job of restating the standard reaction of dispensationalism to the post-tribulation rapture position. I recently read the excellent doctoral dissertation by Professor William Bell in which he compared Matthew 24 and 1 Thess. 4:13-5:11. I was amazed to see Dr. Bell demonstrate that Paul in the "Rapture Passage" actually followed Jesus' chronology of events and subject matter given in Matthew 24! If Dr. Bell is correct, well, I think you can see the implications.
Great Sermon! When I first became a believer my heart was inclined to a midtrib salvation.I was introduced to a website www.tip.org that has been the explanation I seeked for understanding.
Thank you Dr. Stewart for having the courage to preach against the accepted flow of the organized church.
With all of the actions taken across the world against believers I fail to understand how any preacher can justify preaching of a pretrib rapture.
A pretrib rapture message is a clear slap in the face to our brothers and sisters who have been and are suffering for the cause of Christ.But they would never say so because (I believe) that message is part of the martyrdom they suffer.
May GOD continue to give them strength and the courage to face the trials that the rest of us have (so far) escaped.May HE also prepare our hearts for the time we will.
Halleluja Good to hear Dr Stewart prepared to preach this message. I came to the Lord 7 years ago so much of the teaching I hear is from a pre trib rapture perspective. As entertaining as this "left behind" view is I have allready come to the conclusion that pre trib rapture is a cop out teaching.
Surely anyone who is eager to understand our God and His ways will know that trials and tribulations are part of the Christian walk.
You can analyse the texts and the meanings and study it til your blue in the face but I believe God will impart understanding to your spirit on this issue.
Why for 2 thousand years faithfull saints of God have suffered at the hands of men, why now in this generation of Christianity are we to be delivered from trial.
God is into the salvation of souls and this tribulation period offers perhaps the greatest opportunity for evangelization that the world will ever know. I expect to be there right up until the "day of wrath". This day we will not endure as God has not appointed us to wrath.
Amen to this message, may there be more.
Great Sermon! thank you, Dr. Stewart. I have been pre-trib taught all my church life(34years). Only after I genuinely accepted Christ's finished work by the Grace of God have I truly read the Bible with the help of the Holy Spirit to illumuine God's word. I also have come to the conclusion that all of the twisted explanations and complicated timelines are totally and completely uncalled for if one reads the Scripture without one's pre-trib lenses on. I am still a Baptist for the missions focus but I find it difficult to bite my tongue when 99% plus of my Sunday School members will not even take a cursory look with an open mind at what the Word of God truly says comcerning the Second Coming of Christ. It never ceases to amaze me why people are so afraid of what the Bible clearly shows instead of what Tim Lahaye and the like sell. I just do not understand the division of the Body of Christ that is so clearly anti-biblical. This point alone made me doubt the Darbyism in the chruch. That led me to look at the second coming and I clearly see only 1 return with 1 judgement with the unredeemed being the first to be judged(Matt. 13). It would seem to me that to let the Scriptures speak to the subject versus the charts of man. I am so thankful for Christ and hate to see such division of Him.
Great Sermon! Thank you Dr. Stewart for addressing this topic. (Especially from this viewpoint, it is rare!)
My Pastor and I often talk quietly about this topic... both feeling the tribulation will probably be mid or post trib. But most do not feel this way. I am very much looking forward to hearing what your study of the scriptures has revealed to you!
Thanks again... and God Bless!