Great Sermon! Judy, After trying the belittling approach by making condescending comments on my sermon titled A Refutation of the Debased Theology of a Monstrous Regiment of Christian Feminists, I see here that you try the "let's act like a theologian" approach. You mistakenly assert that gender-nuetral bibles are needed because of the English language (which is not true in and of itself) and then you proceed to cite I Tim. 3:1 as an example of men imposing the male gender upon the text. The truth is that the context makes clear that men are intended by virtue of the very next verse which states that the overseer must be "the husband of one wife." Secondly, yes, I have read many egalitarians who support homosexuality and use the same novel hermeneutic to come to their egalitarian conclusions as they do their pro-homosexual conclusions. In conclusion, the only ones causing divisions are those of you in the egalitarian camp who are hell-bent on distorting Scripture. -Pastor Matt Trewhella
Interesting perspective! Rev. Trewhella makes some strong points. There is no Bible translation anywhere that says God is our mother or even female...There is no real inclusive Bible...the real term is Gender 'accurate' Bible and the only reason one exists is because of the English language. Our language translates general terms like "anyone" as "a man". Because of our generic "he or him" many people misunderstand the meaning of the Greek original so translators decided to be more accurate and the result was hysteria from N.A. pulpits. i.e. 1Tim. 3:1 Greek says "if anyone desire to be an overseer", while the KJV says "If any man desire the office of a bishop". This has led to confusion (the work of Satan) that there is to be an 'office' of overseer and that it is only for 'males'. Secondly, no Egalitarians support the practice of homosexuality at all. It is forbidden in scripture across the board. We have here too many 'straw dog' arguments designed to inculcate fear and hostility. Shame on those who 'reinforce our differences rather than our shared humanity' and engender divisions among the faithful. "Mark them which cause divisions contrary to the doctrine that ye have received and avoid them." "Love one another".
Great Sermon! Trewhella says "The woman is created second so she is only a secondary derivation of the image of God." Talk about 'novel' theology! "Mattie", better untie that "1/2 brain" of yours you say you "tied behind your back", for the sake of women. First of all, birth order is rarely conclusive in the Bible(i.e.Esau/Isaac, Cain/Seth etc.) Second, when something is derived from something else we call it refining or 'distillation' that produces a more pure derivation of the original...as gold is refined, so God refined the man. Only then was He able to say the human creation 'was good'â€¦ If the second derivation was inferior, as you imply, then God could not have said it was â€˜goodâ€™.
Swallow the juvenile misogyny here if you can. This childishness, indicative of a great fear of women and aggression towards women is a bit frightening. Methinks Matt doth protest too much. Women, unless you believe God made you an inferior vessel, better run!
Great Sermon! Would be able to agree with this ( well set out) preterist eschatology but for one thing- mark 13 vs 26 and 27. It simply cannot be explained away and I think we must challenge at that point. The rapture will be over before anyone knows it ( in a twinkling of an eye). Resurrected and raised from the dead to meet Jesus in the sky, with no signs to look for - the event thats only sign is no
Sign ( lots of biblical prophecy to describe this) and then a second coming which is proceeded by signs and of which will occur at the end of the tribulation and of which a knowledgable bible scholar will be able to warn of). Good try tho !!!!
Great Sermon! Hi Jeremy. Saw your comment on this sermon- I haven't listened to it- Im somewhere else in scripture ( studying the jewish feasts). Wanted you to know that I appreciate your comments-I am a Christian counsellor ( of sorts) and I often work alongside gay youth who are being victimised. You are right- we must not label anyone. Don't give up on god though. I would say that just like there is no concrete proof of god, there is no concrete proof of no god- at the end of the day both ideas are based on faith. I actually got to god by studying science. Email me if you want to chat...peregrio@ aol.com
Great Sermon! As a gay man, I have a few things to say. (1)Just like Christians don't like to be painted with a broad brush, neither do gay people. There are outlandish and outrageous people in all walks of life. I myself do not care for most gay pride events because I also find it inappropriate for these events to be sponsored by bathhouse's and porn companies, for people to be nude in public, and so do my friends. These events WERE ORIGIONALLY set up to show that we are just as normal as everyone else, but they have become drunkin, pornographic, public displays of debauchery. (2)The pack mentality demonstrated against the street preachers in Seattle was also demonstrated by the "Christian" men attacking gay people in Russia, Georgia, and Serbia. (3)Most gay people DO NOT want to destroy marriage, the family, or a rational standard of morality. I myself do not agree with no-fault divorce. It weakens ALL marriages, and if repealed would give pause to ALL PEOPLE before making their vows. Also the government SHOULD be doing more to promote having children, and stable families. (4)In a free society, the government must remain secular. I myself, an atheist, would find it abhorrent if we made laws based on ANY religion; and those remaining need to be repealed. There is no concrete proof of god.
Sure this is America that is being outlined? What is here said you may confidently change the title to read England, where the base is promoted by law and by funding those involved in it. The all out war against God, godly morals and ethics, recently saw Sodomites joined together in so called marriage, our political parties, though hating one another, joining together to attack the sacredness of marriage. Evil sits upon the heart of our political system, and Christendom just passes by on the other side. Few who profess Christ have any godly morals and ethics, those truly born again being attacked by many that just have a name to live by but are dead, so that those who stand for truth and righteousness are not only attacked by an evil government but by many pretending to be Christians. We now have police continualy seeking to move Christians on, even arresting them, for giving out tracts, though Islam is has no problems in preaching hatred upon our streets. Christendom has abandoned the law of God, and so abandoned the first part of the Gospel (Rev.14.7), preaching a lawless gospel of decissions and indifference toward holiness, righteousness, and truth.
Encouraging Wisdom for Serving God! Wow! God knew I needed to hear the sound theology in this sermon, in this time when Apostasy and Cowardice are infecting too many of today's churches. I wish I could put into words how I see it will wonderfully change my life, especially my prayer life, my fellowship with other believers for the better, and give me better insight in seeking God's will for my life and His power and wisdom to see victories won in the spiritual warfare and witness to the lost where we win, Jesus Christ is Glorified and life is more than worth the pouring it all out to serve our Savior.
Cover This Pastor in Prayer! Dear Pastor Trewhella, This is a great message even if it is a heartbreaking one that is likely to infuriate the enemies of God both outside and inside of today's churches and get you into trouble with ungodly authorities. In my humble opinion we need more pastors who would lay things as they are, especially the Truth of what God's word teaches us before their congregations in the increasingly difficult and perilous times we are living in right now such as you have done, when we so need to be on our faces before God in mourful confession our own sins and neglect to stand up for the Truth, seeking the will of God and His power to live faithfully for Jesus Christ, and to cover one another in our praying. May God give favor to you and others who would call the people of God to wake up out of our sleep and apathy, especially me to be men and to stand for the Lord Jesus Christ, the families He has entrusted to us and the Truth of the Gospel which is of course the Power of God for Salvation to everyone who believes.