Great Sermon! Good discussion. I have always found it fascinating why people attend liberal churches since they are asking people to devote their time to an organization that thinks their basic book of teaching is largely myth. If they want to take care of the needs of others, why not just join a charity organization? Also, it would be good to know if that study ever considered the growth of conservative evangelical churches to be due primarily to conversions or hungry saints coming home to them from megachurches with shallow teaching. Also, to answer your question on organs - a pipe organ for a medium-sized church will set you back about half a million dollars but the technology out there is so good right now you can get a very authentic sounding electronic organ for about $50-80k. I am an organist myself and I would love for more truly evangelical churches to return to this grand instrument for hymn singing.
Great Sermon! Like Pastor Sean said: Those days are over. I worked with Jewish people and Holocaust survivors, there was a story of 2 young kids who entered the prison camp pretty late in the persecution. And they were treated badly by senior prisoners, because while these newbies (to prison) were going out to see movies, and dancing, the senior prisoners were living out an earthly hell, and they were angry.
Supreme Court and Roe v Wade Jeremy, I'm not sure that's a valid reason. 1) Consider the moral character of Trump. Can he be trusted? He hasn't always been pro-life.
2) There's a great chance that Republicans lose the senate. If so no democrat senate is going validate a judge conservative enough to overturn roe v wade. Even if it is a republican senate democrats aren't going down without fight. Especially after republicans stonewalled Obamas nominee.
With that in mind is it wise to compromise so much to vote Trump?
the saving boat analogy is not a good one Many people have pointed this out all along: Evangelicals have put too much hope in politicians to save America, the reality is, politicians are not the saving boat, they are merely one of the products of the culture.
I don't know how well it goes when
Christians bring up the topic of morality. Non believers may ask: if Trump is good enough to be president in your sight, why doing some drug or porn is so bad?
Let's be pragmatic, if people accept a candidate this low, I won't be surprised next time the candidate is going to be lower. It's just like government spending, this years overspending becomes next year's baseline.
I can see it has been a real struggle for you, pastor Sean. One positive thing with Trump is, it clarifies a little bit.
Great Sermon! Would it not be worth a trump vote just to reverse roe Vs. Wade the child sacrifice in this country is outrageous are we in this country "beyond remedy" God always raises up prophets before poring out his wrath sodoms SIn wasn't sexual immorality it was pride so how proud to be an American are we. Can a Christ followers pledge allegiance to a flag that waves over a country that sacrifices their children to Baal
A Missing Point How remiss of me not to mention that some of the devil's kiddies are self-proclaimed Christians a.k.a. wool-wearing wolves. Beware, my brothers and sisters, of these vicious ones! They are bloodthirsty, and inflict the most damage on us. The devil, even though he hates humans, probably has a soft spot for these children.
HOLDING THE HAND OF THE WICKED BECAUSE OF FEAR? There is a mantra that I continually hear, â€śWe're not voting for a pastor.â€ť
Do we professing Christians not understand that the evil one (Satan) has some children that say they are conservatives and some children that say they are liberalsâ€”not to mention that there are some that call themselves moderates, democrats, republicans, libertarians, green, and whatever else?
Are we compromising with one of his kids because we are afraid of what his other kid will do? Their daddy doesn't care who wins as long as his conservative/ liberal wicked scheme is in place.
Thanks, Bro. Sean, et al., for sharing the article and your inputs.
Scripture reference I have been thinking about this for a long time and agree with joey that I will not be able to vote either way. A friend of mine pointed out 2 Timothy 3:1-5 as a very good reference for the believer. Keep up the work brothers and I appreciate what you do.
The Elect One of your staff members(forget who) made a comment about during the time of Martin Luther the per centages were probably the same. This made me pause for a moment, he is probably right. It is no different today, then it was in Jesus's time, Paul's or pick any era in the last 2000 plus yrs or during the Old Testament era. My point is this if you are one of the elect God will reveal himself to you and give you the truth. To some more than others, but He will give all (elect) the basics for salvation. Not all that are saved get the same measure of the Holy Spirit.
Everyone who professes Christ, does not possess Christ. Matt 7: 13-14 and 21-23.
Lack of Biblical Understanding I read this article in detail on Dr. Al Mohler's web site, The Briefing. I came to this conclusion, professing Christians, do not have a clue. 75-90 % of their answers were in direct conflict with sound Biblical doctrine. Evidently Churches do teach the providence and the sovereignty of an Almighty God. And one thing is for sure they don't teach the doctrines of sovereign grace, because if they did their answers would be totally different.
Wonderfully Nourishing Dr. Wilson,
This lesson was so wonderfully edifying and convicting. I am in the land of the enemy and need to live my life that way. The Lord has told me to dress for battle and on a daily basis, I live as if it is a game. This is something that cannot be neglected.
Thank you so much for this class. Thank you so much for the correction you provide.
Yours in Christ
The Providence of God After attending a Baptist church for over 15 years I only learned about the providence of God as my spouse and I were going through " The Tresury Of David " Those books written by Spurgeon over a 20 year period have at the end of each chapter notes by different preachers from years back ( 1600 ) and older So much to learn and God's Word is Amazing
Christ lives in your heart and does the works â€śLord, thou wilt ordain peace for us: for thou also hast wrought all our works in us.â€ť
â€â€Isaiahâ€¬ â€26:12â€¬ â€KJVâ€¬â€¬
â€śI am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.â€ť
â€â€Johnâ€¬ â€15:5â€¬ â€KJVâ€¬â€¬
â€śFor it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.â€ť
â€â€Philippiansâ€¬ â€2:13â€¬ â€KJVâ€¬â€¬
We need to seek him daily because He is the wisdom of God ( waiting on him) ask him for his spirit and ask him to keep your feet . Seek Him early ( diligently)
Matter of haert priorities I agree wholeheartedly that good stewardship is a positive witness as it is a Biblical principle and it reflects God's nature as a God of order. I think the people who you mention that might have an issue with this are conflating good stewardship/business sense with "corporatism" (such as churches looking to the corporate business world and its models rather than the Bible on "how to do church") and setting up a false dichotomy as a result. People see this everywhere in America and immediately have knee-jerk reaction to anything "business" and that is falling into the ditch. Churches that believe in the sufficiency of Scripture are becoming rarer, and as long as that principle is maintained (like it is in Berean's case), there is nothing wrong with good, common-sensical management of God's resources.
Training vs Casual meetings Any fellowship is totally dependent on the generosity and sacrificial living of individuals, where people live their lives completely given over to serve God. But the reality is that this is a very rare thing, indeed it is a marvelous blessing from Jesus if you experience it, and a terrible tragedy if let go to waste. Â But for the most part house churches involve a lot of students and young people who choose not to budget their income for the fellowship, and are still growing in maturity, plus the casual nature of meeting with someone in a house, doesn't help that at all.
Personally I think we need more bible school type Friday, Saturday all day getaways of dedicated bible teaching. This takes dedication and sacrifice on the student, and really exposes those who are interested and those who are committed.