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On the live radio show, 'Iron Sharpening Iron', originating out of New York City, I was scheduled to debate Federal Vision representative Steve Schlissel on various theological issues associated with this viewpoint that I believe to be heretical. Both of us had been on the radio show earlier on separate occassions. There will be a second debate since he was late arriving to this show.
John Otis makes many good points on this MP3. John Otis makes many good points on this MP3.
John's book, _Danger In the Camp: An Analysis and Refutation of the Heresies of the Federal Vision_, mentioned on this MP3, is available on sermonaudio at http://www.sermonaudio.com/sou rce_prodinfo.asp?PID=we11220511 1711.
It is also sad to hear how far Steve Schlissel has fallen from the truth (and one other MP3 on sermonaudio, though I forget the title at the moment, even noted that Steve has already shared the "pulpit" in a friendly manner, at one conference, with Roman Catholics).
Many more free online resources refuting the Federal Vision heresy may also be found at this sermonaudio blog:
FREE: REFUTING DOUG WILSON, Steve Schlissel, Steve Wilkins, John Barach, the AUBURN AVENUE / FEDERAL VISION HERESIES, Norman Shepherd, N.T. Wright, Richard Gaffin, & DEFENDING THE REFORMATION VIEW ON JUSTIFICATION
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Thomas M Sullivan (10/22/2006)
from Jenison, MI
Very Interesting, Waiting for more This is as important as it is interesting.
But Steve's comments to John are very perplexing. I have corresponded with Schlissel in the past, and though I disagree with him on a number of issues, I am still surprised that he misrepresents the historic reformed position on the term justification used strictly in a forensic sense, and good works as the evidence of the new birth.
I know he is very familiar with his own confession, the Westminster, but seemed to create a straw man doctrine of the historic teachings on soteriology. At any rate this is a very important warning about the Federal Vision system and the Auburn Avenue Theologs such as Wilkens, Wilson, Mark Horne and their whole ilk. The ironic thing is they have a whole different standard on infants and regeneration.
John M. Otis received a Masters of Divinity degree and a Masters of Christian Education degree from Reformed Theological Seminary in Jackson, MS in 1979. He was ordained as a minister of the gospel by Westminster Presbytery (PCA). In 1990, he transferred his membership from Westminster...