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Choice News SATURDAY, NOV 2, 2013  |  49 comments  |  1 commentary
Texas' Largest Presbyterian Church (USA) Congregation Votes to Leave Denomination

The largest Presbyterian Church (USA) congregation in Texas has voted to leave the mainline denomination over theological differences.

Highland Park Presbyterian Church of Dallas, which has approximately 4,000 members, overwhelmingly approved a resolution recently that would involve the congregation terminating its voluntary affiliation with the PC (USA).

The Session recommended leaving the mainline denomination and membership into the newer more conservative body known as the Evangelical Covenant Order (ECO) of Presbyterians. ...


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Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
No, John Y., it is call a dedication service when parent realize that infant baptism has no efficacy. Popish Baptism condemns both the parents and the priest who performs it, of course all priests and laity should make a Pilgrimage From Rome

As far as the church mentioned in the article is concerned, the question is, "What took you so long!" They must be like some individuals who stay in the Romish Church who should Come Out Of The Catholic Church. Oh, I doubt the ideas in the PCUSA hasn't changed since this was written by Presbyterian pastor (take note, Penny ), PCUSA and Israel, Again .

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News Item11/2/13 3:26 PM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
Sorry, I really didn't make that clear at all... My point was, to say baptism is necessary for salvation will be based on a work I do, and since that work is wholly God's to do, it would be worked-based salvation and therefore wrong. The their on the. Cross was saved by God's power, not his own. I agree with your statement mourner.
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News Item11/2/13 3:23 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
The thieves on the cross must be a classic example of double predestination.
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News Item11/2/13 3:18 PM
mourner  Find all comments by mourner
Anne wrote:
Salvation through baptism is based on a work I impart upon myself. The thief on the cross is a good example I should think.
The thief on the cross believed that Jesus was the Son of God, demonstrated by remember me, Lord when you come into your kingdom. What he exercised was faith in the essentials. He imparted no works - it is not by works least any man should boast. It was the grace of God through faith that was not of himself, it was the gift of God. Salvation is of the Lord. If one believes the truth and perseveres to the end it is saving faith that began by the Spirit's effectual call. HE convinced the little born one that his misery was due to his own sin, enlightened his mind in the knowledge of Christ and renewed his will, so he was quickened to embrace Jesus Christ freely offered in the gospel. All God's work man's irresistible inward call to exercise Christ's faith. Gal. 2:20
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News Item11/2/13 3:16 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Jurlc wrote:
A baptism that doesn't save is like a wedding that doesn't wed. Acts of God, both.
Baptism(Infant and Adult) is just a dedication of infants and adults to Jesus and doesn't impart salvation. Therefore there is nothing unscriptural about Infant Baptism.
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News Item11/2/13 3:03 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
mourner wrote:
I assume I am one of your 'their' in the sentence above. Could you then tell me with whom you are trying to connect me. I am familiar with your connections from previous posts.
Actually, I feel you are correct
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News Item11/2/13 2:51 PM
mourner  Find all comments by mourner
SteveR wrote:
Salvation by poetry is their new theology
I assume I am one of your 'their' in the sentence above. Could you then tell me with whom you are trying to connect me. I am familiar with your connections from previous posts.
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News Item11/2/13 2:43 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
mourner wrote:
you've identified yourself aye?
Water washes;
the Holy Spirit quickens. Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness for sin. The Scripture is referred to in Ephes 5 as washing.
Salvation by poetry is their new theology
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News Item11/2/13 2:39 PM
mourner  Find all comments by mourner
Jurlc wrote:
A baptism that doesn't save is like a wedding that doesn't wed. Acts of God, both.
you've identified yourself aye?

Water washes;
the Holy Spirit quickens. Without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness for sin. The Scripture is referred to in Ephes 5 as washing.

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News Item11/2/13 2:33 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
mourner wrote:
History is sighted because the Church did not cease to be after the close of the canon of Scripture. Scripture tells us to mark the foot steps of faithful contenders, history helps to locate them post canon. Men's faith and action or their conformity to Scripture which can be found from histories of national reformation resulting in Confessions of Faith then based on the supremacy of Scripture. The Confession do not claim to be without error they are not making papal claims but they prove their faithfulness to the Scripture and these ordained men knew the original languages of Greek and Hebrew without the intranet.
Too many Pastors that CITE these Confessions behave as if they were without error.
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News Item11/2/13 2:33 PM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
Jurlc, yes, but a wedding does not mean both parties will work for its success, nor remain in the marital status. It is a promise or covering showing with whom you are bonded - it guarantees nothing more than an outward symbol, ALBEIT A MOST IMPORTANT ONE. Salvation through baptism is based on a work I impart upon myself. The thief on the cross is a good example I should think.
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News Item11/2/13 2:27 PM
Jurlc  Find all comments by Jurlc
Anne wrote:
how then do we say baptism doesn't save but is an outward symbolism of our adoption into God's fold, yet deny it's inference toward "circumcision in the New Covenant" of Christ? I can see both sides of this argument but know both cannot be correct.
A baptism that doesn't save is like a wedding that doesn't wed. Acts of God, both.
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News Item11/2/13 2:17 PM
mourner  Find all comments by mourner
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
you will note the responses to this post will be from creeds, confessions, commentaries,and what will be called but not cited history, but not from the Bible itself.
Unless those posting here are ministers in the visible Church they will refer to Confessions of Faith that came from the labors of the ministry in a nation during a time of reformation. They will give their opinion but fear to teach contrary to what they believe comes from the Scripture and what has been given to them by those pastor/teachers that were given by Christ until we all come to the unity of the faith see Ephesians 4

History is sighted because the Church did not cease to be after the close of the canon of Scripture. Scripture tells us to mark the foot steps of faithful contenders, history helps to locate them post canon. Men's faith and action or their conformity to Scripture which can be found from histories of national reformation resulting in Confessions of Faith then based on the supremacy of Scripture. The Confession do not claim to be without error they are not making papal claims but they prove their faithfulness to the Scripture and these ordained men knew the original languages of Greek and Hebrew without the intranet.

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News Item11/2/13 1:58 PM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
A question I've often been asked due to my denominational history then: there is no direct command to stop seventh-day sabbath worship, yet the Church has inferred, correctly, that the Lord's Day is now Sunday. If there are no direct commends, however, to change the day of worship, yet we all agree it is Sunday, how then do we say baptism doesn't saves but is an outward symbolism of our adoption into God's fold, yet deny it's inference toward "circumcision in the New Covenant" of Christ? I can see both sides of this argument but know both cannot be correct.
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News Item11/2/13 1:57 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Thomas the Doubter wrote:
2 hours ago
SteveR writes:
Thomas the Doubter wrote:
...but is just leaving enough? Should they stand and fight the Apostates that rule the modern American church?
May the LORD bless the Evangelical Covenant Order and let it be a safe home for our people.
Do you consider this an answer to the question?
The best possible answer
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News Item11/2/13 1:45 PM
Thomas the Doubter | Ohio  Find all comments by Thomas the Doubter
2 hours ago
SteveR writes:
Thomas the Doubter wrote:
...but is just leaving enough? Should they stand and fight the Apostates that rule the modern American church?
May the LORD bless the Evangelical Covenant Order and let it be a safe home for our people.
Do you consider this an answer to the question?
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News Item11/2/13 1:03 PM
mourner  Find all comments by mourner
GsTexas wrote:
Are their even any verses in Scripture that have anything to do with infant baptism? Because I can't think of any.
By inference many. Peter's Pentecost Sermon Acts 2:38,39 said the promise of the Holy Spirit was for the repentant and now believing Jews and their children and as many non Jews (and their children implied) as the Lord their God would call. Circumcision was a sign and seal of God's promise that he would be their God and they would be His people. NT 2 Cor.6: 18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. Baptism was a bloodless sign and it was now offered to their male and female offspring for Christ had come and the promise was the sending of the Holy Spirit in His time, to all who believe. It would be hoped that if the parents were believers they would bring up their children in the faith once delivered to the saints. Water baptism is a sign and seal of a promise, only God can make it effectual in time. One example Gs as I understand it.
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News Item11/2/13 1:02 PM
GsTexas | Texas  Find all comments by GsTexas
Thanks US, I didn't think there were, I thought I'd ask to make sure.
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News Item11/2/13 12:50 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
GsTexas wrote:
Are their even any verses in Scripture that have anything to do with infant baptism? Because I can't think of any.
No, Gs, there are absolutely NO Bible verses that speak of infant baptism, which is why you cannot find any. Thanks for your Berean spirit, you will note the responses to this post will be from creeds, confessions, commentaries,and what will be called but not cited history, but not from the Bible itself.
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News Item11/2/13 12:36 PM
GsTexas | Texas  Find all comments by GsTexas
Are their even any verses in Scripture that have anything to do with infant baptism? Because I can't think of any.
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