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Choice News FRIDAY, NOV 1, 2013  |  120 comments  |  2 commentaries
Washington Cathedral: 'Church Of Anything Goes'

At the Washington National Cathedral, Rev. Gary Hall announced last Sunday that he had discovered a sin unknown to hundreds of churchmen before him. ‘We must now have the courage to … call homophobia and heterosexism what they are,’ he said. ‘They are sins. Homophobia is a sin. Heterosexism is a sin. Shaming people for whom they love is a sin.’

“Mr. Hall, dean of Washington’s most prominent Episcopal church, criticized the role that some churches have played in oppressing young lesbians, gays, bisexual and transgendered youth. ‘It is not only just OK to be gay, straight, bisexual or transgendered,’ he said. ‘It is good to be that way, because that is the way God has made you.’”

That absolutely astounding theological and biological conjecture surely raises the question: Why has Dean Hall limited God’s (alleged) alternative sexual creationism to homosexual, bisexual and transsexual? ...


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News Item11/7/13 9:41 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Lurker wrote:
You may write my pity off as pretentious if you must, but you really have a problem in that it isn't possible for you to deal with a challenge to your belief system without lashing out with angry insults and condemnations.
I'm not questioning your standing before God but it is clear to me that you have not fully crucified your old nature; something we all must do daily.
I'll pray for you and ask others on this forum to do the same.
May the peace of God reign in your body, soul and spirit.
My old nature would gladly gobble up your pretentiousness, my new one find its as useless as any narcissistic prayers of the lost.
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News Item11/7/13 9:22 AM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
SteveR wrote:
If Lurkers pretentious pity is acceptable.....
You may write my pity off as pretentious if you must, but you really have a problem in that it isn't possible for you to deal with a challenge to your belief system without lashing out with angry insults and condemnations.

I'm not questioning your standing before God but it is clear to me that you have not fully crucified your old nature; something we all must do daily.

I'll pray for you and ask others on this forum to do the same.

May the peace of God reign in your body, soul and spirit.

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News Item11/7/13 8:12 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
SteveR wrote:
1 Peter 4:16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
We could fill many pages with the record of the martyrs of the Covenant - men, women and children, for the last to die for his faith, George Boyd, was only 16 when he was shot in the summer of 1688, but these will suffice.

James II, who succeeded to the throne in 1685 and, as an avowed Catholic, continued and intensified the persecution, was deposed in the Great Revolution of 1688.

Once again peace and liberty of conscience came to the blood-stained hills of Scotland. It is noteworthy that the persecuted saints of eastern Europe show great interest in the Covenanters of three hundred years ago.

Both groups call to our minds the words of Samuel Rutherford: "They are not worthy of Jesus, who will not take a blow for their Master."

from John Legg - "The Footsteps of God"

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News Item11/7/13 7:29 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Thomas the Doubter wrote:
Steve R you are a moron. That good enough to get deleted?
If Lurkers pretentious pity is acceptable, why not your nonsense? True Christians have no shame in the Gospel

1 Peter 4:16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

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News Item11/7/13 7:23 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
As for anyone being a moron, etc, I have to remind myself each and every day not to judge which is a difficult thing for me. I have to constantly remind myself that I was liliterally one of the worst of the worst, and probably still am. Not one of us, especially me, has come remotely close to conquering sin...we all have our issues, thoughts, and actions that keep us from being any better than the next.
One might judge another for drinking alcohol, while they cheat on their taxes. One might judge another for getting a tatoo, while they gossip about others. One might judge another because they watch an R rated movie, while they are impatient and prone to road rage. One might judge another because they smoke, while they lust after a co-worker every day...and the list goes on. When I catch myself judging anyone, I look within; quickly seeing all that is wrong with me, which is usually much, much more, and I realize how hypocritical and pathetic I am that I would ever be judge and jury for anyone elses faults. I still have to work on this all day, every day.
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News Item11/7/13 7:05 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Steve, I wish I lived close and could get to know you. You've always been very angry and I think it goes way beyond any comments, discussions, or views on this forum. I think somebody has done something to you; something that you might think you've buried, and/or have under control that leeches out in other ways. I suppose I could be dead wrong, but this is a feeling I've always had. Maybe it's something you've buried deep enough that you're not even aware you've been effected by it or molded by the bad memories, etc.
This thread disappears from the SA app after today, so if you feel like posting in a more recent thread...
Maybe I'm wrong, I guess, but I just don't believe the incessant anger was born on or is limited to this forum.
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News Item11/6/13 9:36 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
SteveR wrote:
Do you even know what the Nestorian heresy is? Obviously not, as it was obvious the Belgic Confession wasnt confronting that in that admonishment.

Are you ignorant? a heretic? a simple child playing semantic games? or all of the above? My guess is the last.

I'm so embarrassed for you, Steve!

It must be a terrible burden for you to bear to have so little control over the old nature.

Hope you're feeling better real soon.

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News Item11/6/13 8:54 PM
Thomas the Doubter | Ohio  Find all comments by Thomas the Doubter
[Removed by Moderator Alpha]
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News Item11/6/13 8:53 PM
Thomas the Doubter | Ohio  Find all comments by Thomas the Doubter
John UK- you are spot on, and funny too! :-)
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News Item11/6/13 6:05 PM
XRC  Find all comments by XRC
John UK....Lol. That's the drivel I've been reading John Y post nearly every day.
What a automaton !
Personally I think he's a RC that needs to get a life(both spiritual and physical).
Anyway...great post made me laugh.
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News Item11/6/13 3:33 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
John, great breakdown.I guess anyone could go just about anywhere and "pretend" that what is happening, isn't. No church that is blatantly and proudly riddled with so many false doctrines can possibly worship Christ and hold Him in high esteem...doesn't make sense, no matter what they happen to claim. If I claim to love and worship Christ; believing that the Bible is the true and inerrant word of God, can I at the same time work directly against Him in so many provable ways, pray to the dead for favors, etc? I can't seem to get that to work in my mind.
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News Item11/6/13 1:10 PM
vendettas  Find all comments by vendettas
SteveR wrote:
I find John Ys testimony consistent with that of a SOLID faithful Christian. Further, I find him a great asset yo the board unlike many others with various personal vendettas against denominations and leaders of Churches they disagree with.
And those whom you "perceive" to have a vendetta against various denominations is far worse than your personal vendetta against those you disagree with in what way?
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News Item11/6/13 11:46 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
John UK wrote:
To which John Yurich might reply: "Yes, I embraced Jesus as my savior when I went forward at an altar call in my brother's non-denomination church. I attend a Roman Catholic church, whose doctrines I mainly disagree with, but some are scriptural. I think praying to Mary is stupid and I believe transubstantiation is stupid. When I go to mass, I use a visualisation technique so that I imagine myself to be in a Lutheran church and I take the wafer and wine in a Lutheran way. If the priest asks me why I have a glazed look in my eyes, owing to the visualisation technique, I don't have to do anything except embrace Jesus as my savior, and seeing as I did that many years ago, I don't really need to do anything else, so why don't you crazy protestants leave off with your insane and psychotic drivel.
What a guy!
1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
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News Item11/6/13 11:24 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
SteveR wrote:
I find John Ys testimony consistent with that of a SOLID faithful Christian.
To which John Yurich might reply: "Yes, I embraced Jesus as my savior when I went forward at an altar call in my brother's non-denomination church. I attend a Roman Catholic church, whose doctrines I mainly disagree with, but some are scriptural. I think praying to Mary is stupid and I believe transubstantiation is stupid. When I go to mass, I use a visualisation technique so that I imagine myself to be in a Lutheran church and I take the wafer and wine in a Lutheran way. If the priest asks me why I have a glazed look in my eyes, owing to the visualisation technique, I tell him, "I am not willing to make you or anyone else in the Catholic church cognizant of what I am thinking about when I take the wafer - that way, you will not be able to excommunicate me, nor pronounce me anathema for disbelieving Catholic doctrines." I leave the mass to go home without talking to anyone and then watch TV or go shopping. I don't have to do anything except embrace Jesus as my savior, and seeing as I did that many years ago, I don't really need to do anything else, so why don't you crazy protestants leave off with your insane and psychotic drivel.

What a guy!

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News Item11/6/13 10:46 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Thomas the Doubter wrote:
Of course it doesnt bother John Y that the RCC is antichrist because he isnt really a christian!
I find John Ys testimony consistent with that of a SOLID faithful Christian. Further, I find him a great asset yo the board unlike many others with various personal vendettas against denominations and leaders of Churches they disagree with.
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News Item11/6/13 10:35 AM
personal attacks  Find all comments by personal attacks
Hey moderator, Personal attacks or insults directed at other users will be censored, how about taking out the last SteveR comment
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News Item11/6/13 9:01 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Lurker wrote:
That would be the Nestorian heresy you are fumbling for.
Do you even know what the Nestorian heresy is? Obviously not, as it was obvious the Belgic Confession wasnt confronting that in that admonishment.

Are you ignorant? a heretic? a simple child playing semantic games? or all of the above? My guess is the last.

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News Item11/6/13 7:38 AM
Thomas the Doubter | Ohio  Find all comments by Thomas the Doubter
Of course it doesnt bother John Y that the RCC is antichrist because he isnt really a christian!
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News Item11/5/13 11:36 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
SteveR wrote:
You have a problem... blah.
That would be the Nestorian heresy you are fumbling for.

How is it you claim to be a by the book Calvinist but deny Augustine's view on the two natures of Jesus?

"According as He was God, He had not a mother; according as He was man, He had. She was the mother, then, of His flesh, of His humanity, of the weakness which for our sakes He took upon Him. But the miracle which He was about to do, He was about to do according to His divine nature, not according to His weakness; according to that wherein He was God not according to that wherein He was born weak."

"How then was He both David’s son and David’s Lord? David’s son according to the flesh, David’s Lord according to His divinity; so also Mary’s son after the flesh, and Mary’s Lord after His majesty." Tract. in Ioannem (VIII,9)

Mat 22:41-46
While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, Saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David. He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?

What say you?

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News Item11/5/13 4:48 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Servant  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
SF from TX wrote:
Unprofitable Servant, seeing as I've been battling a stomach bug and mommies can't call in sick can we just leave this at agree to disagree? There's a part 2 by the way.
Dear SF, I am sorry to hear you have been under the weather and have like others prayed that God would graciously raise you up to health. I had already listened to part 2 but thanks for the heads up.
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