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TUESDAY, NOV 20, 2012  |  26 comments  |  1 commentary
Ron Paul: ‘Secession is a deeply American principle’

Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) said Monday that secession was a “deeply American principle,” amid a growing number of people petitioning the White House to let their states secede from the U.S.

“Secession is a deeply American principle. This country was born through secession. Some felt it was treasonous to secede from England, but those ‘traitors’ became our country’s greatest patriots,” the former presidential candidate wrote in a post on his House website. “There is nothing treasonous or unpatriotic about wanting a federal government that is more responsive to the people it represents.”

He continued: “If the possibility of secession is completely off the table there is nothing to stop the federal government from continuing to encroach on our liberties and no recourse for those who are sick and tired of it.” ...


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Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Rufus wrote:
No. I would highly recommend we not put much stock into the things he said for we would find his deeds did not match his words and he was not the "great emancipator" people pretend him to be.
Slaves of his day were certainly smarter than many white people seem to be; they knew perfectly well what the Proclamation implied, & that even such partial emancipation, absent further Congressional action which Lincoln did not yet have, was better than none. Considering the political & constitutional constraints he was under, it was a great work.

So what does it matter what his opinions of racial differences were, however flawed? He did the right thing regardless.

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Rufus | Fort Worth, TX  Protected NameFind all comments by Rufus
Neil wrote:
Since you consider Lincoln a tyrant & a conniving politician, we don't have to believe everything he said, now do we?
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No. I would highly recommend we not put much stock into the things he said for we would find his deeds did not match his words and he was not the "great emancipator" people pretend him to be.

"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality...." - Abraham Lincoln

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Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
on your face wrote:
Don't forget they yoked the Holy Bible to their color-based chattel slavery.
Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson, a devout Presby, commendably taught a Bible class for blacks, which in his beloved state of VA, happened to be illegal. This squares with Frederick Douglass's testimony that a Sabbath school in St. Michaels was broken up 3 times by “class leaders” wielding sticks. Yet some still insist that the antebellum South was a model Christian civilization.
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Neil wrote:
Thanks to Confederate yoking of States' Rights to chattel slavery,
Don't forget they yoked the Holy Bible to their color-based chattel slavery. Then they hid behind "States' Rights" malarkey.
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Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Rufus wrote:
'Tis a very deeply held American principle.
"Any people whatsoever have the right to abolish the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable, a most sacred right." - Abraham Lincoln July 4, 1848
Since you consider Lincoln a tyrant & a conniving politician, we don't have to believe everything he said, now do we?

“Civil Rights, But Just for Whites": that's what the 1860 Secession was all about. Thanks to Confederate yoking of States' Rights to chattel slavery, you're gonna have a pretty hard time convincing Texas blacks that secession isn't just another trick to enslave or marginalize them. The South had a century of experience playing shell games with black civil liberties.

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Rufus | Fort Worth, TX  Protected NameFind all comments by Rufus
'Tis a very deeply held American principle.

"Any people whatsoever have the right to abolish the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable, a most sacred right." - Abraham Lincoln July 4, 1848

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