“Like all the other nations …” – i.e., we’re no longer exceptional, let us be like all the other nations. Sound familiar?
Old Samuel knew this desire was wrong and would lead the people even farther from God, into servitude, injustice and moral darkness. So he went to the Lord for guidance. But what did He say? “Do everything they say to you,” the Lord replied, “for it is Me they are rejecting, not you. They don’t want me to be their king any longer.”
From then on, for hundreds of years, the people suffered under foolish kings, many worse than the one before, still wanting their own way and forsaking the way of God who had made them great in their beginning. They ended in abject slavery, in Babylon captivity.
Don’t think that can happen to our America? Friend, our people have rejected the very same God and His way, and clamored after a king who has promised to provide, protect and lead them...
Christopher000 wrote: Thank you. : ) Whether on this thread or others, I really need to consider how I'm wording my posts before submitting them. I've found that I need to pay extra close attention to grammar, spelling, and punctuation as well so I don't get a John/UK smacksown.
Whether on this thread or others, I really need to consider how I'm wording my posts before submitting them. I've found that I need to pay extra close attention to grammar, spelling, and punctuation as well so I don't get a John/UK smacksown.
Dear Christopher, That's fine - I don't take offense because in this format of communication we can't see beyond the words, whereas if we were talking at say a coffee shop or in someone's living room, we would see the facial expressions and hear their tone of voice. Before I became a Christian, I was afraid to speak out on anything. But once I began reading the Bible, I realized that God wants us to speak out and that He'll give us opportunity and words. So, thank you for looking deeper into who I am and the message I am trying to convey to others.
Angela, I could have left out the part about not caring for you previously. I have a bad habit of saying what's on my my mind when I could word things differently at times...
Mrs Angela Wittman, just a few days ago, I didn't care much for you, and the feeling was probably mutual, but now, I have to say that I'm a bit impressed and realize that I've had you all wrong. I understand where you are coming from now and I admire any Christian who commits their life to Biblical matters. Not everyone has the drive, the interest, or even the concern that so many Christians seem to lack. I hope to make a difference somehow but I have no ideas and lack any direction. I have a strong headknowledge of the Bible and thought I knew much more than I really do. I get corrected constantly and at first, it was shocking because I thought I could roll with anyone before coming to this board. I dedicated my life earlier this year but had read/listened to the Bible many times. I guess I just need to be patient as far as finding out what my job will be. I'm young-ish but I worry that I'll die without having anything to show for my life. Anyway, if you have any room for an extra friend, you gained one. I really like all of the news articles linked from your site.
Dear Christopher, You are welcome! Please feel free to visit my blog Christian Liberty News and examine the hundreds of articles posted there, as well as links to other resources: http://christianlibertynews.wordpress.com/
Overcomer wrote: --- Christian's had two choices this year ( or do a write-in). We could vote for a Christ hating, Muslim, or a Christ hating Mormon. To vote for either was in direct violation of God's Word. ---
There is a tiny difference. Mormons won't kill you if you don't convert.
Frank wrote: Amen. 1 John 5:19 [And] we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. 20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. Colossians 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. 2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
Amen! 1 John 2:27-29 KJV 27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. 28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. 29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.
John UK wrote: Amen bro. I was meditating on this text only last night whilst acknowledging my sins before God. That "Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners...." As for finding common ground with the lost, you are quite right, pilgrims have no truck with that. Far too many today are "listening" to what sinners have to say about the way we go about things, especially evangelism.
Amen.
1 John 5:19 [And] we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. 20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
Colossians 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. 2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
Frank wrote: I couldn't have said it better. Christ came into the world to save sinners, not make sinners look and feel like they aren't sinners. He does not want "pilgrims" finding common moral ground with the lost for any purpose - period.
Amen bro. I was meditating on this text only last night whilst acknowledging my sins before God. That "Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners...." As for finding common ground with the lost, you are quite right, pilgrims have no truck with that. Far too many today are "listening" to what sinners have to say about the way we go about things, especially evangelism.
John UK wrote: Hebrews 11:13 KJV 13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. 1 Peter 2:11-12 KJV 11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul; 12 Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation. God bless all pilgrims everywhere.
I couldn't have said it better. Christ came into the world to save sinners, not make sinners look and feel like they aren't sinners. He does not want "pilgrims" finding common moral ground with the lost for any purpose - period.
Hey Folks, I just wanted to pass along this link with a perspective I would think most Christians would respect and agree with: http://christiannews.net/2012/11/09/evangelist-blames-religious-leaders-godless-government-gospel-for-obama-presidency/ (You'll have to copy and paste in your browser.)
Observationpoint wrote: For any passing by please consider going to the video and for 2 minutes of your valuable time (from the 10 mins 30 secs) watch the following part about a certain 1958 book... 'The Naked Communist Goals 1958' 10.35 to 12.41 AGENDA: Grinding America Down (free video online) http://vimeo.com/52009124 It might make you weep for your beloved land.
FYI - communists were bitterly persecuting homosexuals in 1958.
The 1958 agenda, if it was real, reflects the mindset and inventions of the anti-communist paranoia.
America invented the monster and, God, in his wise and perfect judgment, had them unleash it on themselves.
Dear Christopher, My understanding of the Christian life is it's all about having a comprehensive Biblical worldview and seeking to honor the Lord Jesus Christ in all we do. This means we might have to take a more narrow path than others and frankly, I've done this my entire Christian life. For some reason known only to the Lord, He placed me in the midst of a culture war and my only position has been to stand on the Word of God. If I don't have a Scripture or Biblical principle to stand on, I am likely to compromise, which can be good. However, God has given us Biblical instruction and principles on choosing leaders throughout Scripture. In Exodus we have the example of Moses taking advice from his father-in-law on what types of men to make judges for the Israelites, and then in the New Testament we have instruction on what types of men to choose as leaders in the Church. We can use the same criteria when choosing civil leaders because we are told in Romans 13 that God has instituted civil government. Traditional reformed thinking has been that while the Church and State are separate spheres, both are under King Jesus and should serve Him. This is where I stand and I'll not be moved. Amen.
Christopher000 wrote: "if anyone brings another Gospel, let him be accursed" When I first read this, I thought, Finally! Someone showed me, using the Bible, why I should not have voted. But now, I think this would apply to a spiritual leader or anyone, for that matter, who teaches anything which contradicts the Bible in any way. Can this be applied to voting for a secular leader as well?
The gospel is the power of God unto salvation and all who are saved are saved by the grace of God alone.
I seriously doubt there are any professing Christians, real or diluded, who believe the job of the POTUS is to save them from God's wrath and their sins. Therefore, to quote this verse as a biblical reason to not vote for a non-born again Christian for POTUS is an abuse of scripture.
But maybe Overcomer knows something else which we are unaware of to back up his accusation.
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However, God has given us Biblical instruction and principles on choosing leaders throughout Scripture. In Exodus we have the example of Moses taking advice from his father-in-law on what types of men to make judges for the Israelites, and then in the New Testament we have instruction on what types of men to choose as leaders in the Church. We can use the same criteria when choosing civil leaders because we are told in Romans 13 that God has instituted civil government. Traditional reformed thinking has been that while the Church and State are separate spheres, both are under King Jesus and should serve Him. This is where I stand and I'll not be moved. Amen.
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