Matthew 1:18- 2:23, Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily. But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him. When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him. And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born. And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet, And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, art not the least among the princes of Judah: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel. Then Herod, when he had privily called the wise men, enquired of them diligently what time the star appeared. And he sent them to Bethlehem, and said, Go and search diligently for the young child; and when ye have found him, bring me word again, that I may come and worship him also.
When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was. When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy. And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshiped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh. And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country another way.
And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him. When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt: And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.
Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men. Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not.
But when Herod was dead, behold, an angel of the Lord appeareth in a dream to Joseph in Egypt, Saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and go into the land of Israel: for they are dead which sought the young child’s life. And he arose, and took the young child and his mother, and came into the land of Israel. But when he heard that Archelaus did reign in Judaea in the room of his father Herod, he was afraid to go thither: notwithstanding, being warned of God in a dream, he turned aside into the parts of Galilee: And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.
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Maybe this will make my point, as stated previously listen to www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=1227111518383. I didn't hear it to the end because of an audio glich in my technology . I heard enough to know we have some substancial agreement here, and we both disagree with Jim's position.
"No injury was thus done the Sabbath as it was commended to the Jews; rather a new greatness was brought to it. Our Lord, too, following the example of his Father, when he had finished the work which it had been given him to do, rested on the Sabbath—in the peace of his grave. But he had work yet to do, and, when the first day of the new week, which was the era of salvation, dawned, he rose from the Sabbath rest of the grave, and made all things new. As C. F. Keil beautifully puts it; "Christ is Lord of the Sabbath, and after the completion of his work, he also rested on the Sabbath. But he rose again on the Sabbath; and through his resurrection, which is the pledge to the world of the fruit of his redeeming work, he made this day the Lord's Day for his Church, to be observed by it till the Captain of its salvation shall return, and having finished the judgment upon all his foes to the very last, shall lead it to the rest of that eternal Sabbath which God prepared for the whole creation through his own resting after the completion of the heaven and the earth." Christ took the Sabbath into the grave with him and brought the Lord's Day out of the grave with him on the resurrection morn." Warfield
C. I. Scofield wrote: The Christian first day perpetuates in the dispensation of grace the principle that one-seventh of the time is especially sacred, but in all other respects is in contrast with the sabbath. One is the seventh day, the other the first. The sabbath commemorates God's creation rest, the first day Christ's resurrection. On the seventh day God rested, on the first day Christ was ceaselessly active. The sabbath commemorates a finished creation, the first day a finished redemption. The sabbath was a day of legal obligation, the first day one of voluntary worship and service. The sabbath is mentioned in the Acts only in connection with the Jews, and in the rest of the N.T. but twice. # Col 2:16 Heb 4:4 In these passages the seventh day sabbath is explained to be to the Christian not a day to be observed, but a type of the present rest into which he enters when "he also ceases from his own works" and trusts Christ.
I must say, that God's ways are not limited with us, as our understanding can be limited due to sin. He is able to make himself known and understood to his erring children.
I have no way of knowing without asking, so to clarify, I will ask. SA, does this mean you will no longer post News Stories on the Lord's Day or was Christ mass an exception to the rule? Was it done this way last year too? It made me stop and rethink. How can you not offend when you have sermons on this site preaching contrary to one another about these things 1. the peretuity of the Christian Sabbath and the regulative principal of worship and 2. What is the basis for holy days not regulated by the Word of God.
I was stumbled, unless you've reconsidered and will not be posting News Stories on the Lord's Day just Scripture fom now on. I realize people use the sight who don't have the opportunity of spiritual conversation on the Lord's with others, but I had to reconsider what I need to do differently for my own conscience sake. Thanks for your concideration of this matter.
THE FOLLOWING IS NOT TAKEN FROM THE N.A.S.B PER-VERSION:
"AND THERE WERE SHEPHERDS ABIDING IN THE FIELD, KEEPING WATCH OVER THEIR FLOCK BY NIGHT;
AND LO, THE ANGEL OF THE LORD CAME UPON THEM, AND THE GLORY OF THE LORD SHONE ROUND ABOUT THEM; AND THEY WERE SORE AFRAID.
AND THE ANGEL SAID UNTO THEM, FEAR NOT, FOR BEHOLD, I BRING YOU GLAD TIDINGS OF GREAT JOY WHICH SHALL BE TO ALL PEOPLE;
FOR UNTO YOU IS BORN THIS DAY, IN THE CITY OF DAVID; A SAVIOR, WHICH IS CHRIST THE LORD...
AND SUDDENLY, THERE WAS WITH THE ANGEL A MULTITUDE OF THE HEAVENLY HOST, PRAISING GOD AND SAYING:
GLORY TO GOD IN THE HIGHEST; AND, ON EARTH PEACE: GOOD WILL TOWARD MEN." LUKE 2:8-14 !
(NOT FAR FROM MY BROS. & MY SALVATION IN 1975; PASTOR FRANK JOYNER ('67 BJU GRAD) AT CALVARY BAPTIST CHURCH, GENEVA, IL, ASKED US IF WE'D ALL QUOTE--BY MEMORY--VERSES FROM THE ABOVE LUKE 2:8-14 FOR CALVARY'S CHRISTMAS-SERVICE.
WE (JOHN-LUIS-MYSELF-ROBERT-JESSE) QUOTED IT BY HEART: OLDEST TO YOUNGEST !)
I Owe ALOT Of My AUTHORIZED HOLY KING JAMES BIBLE Memorization To THE AWANA CLUBS; Founded By BR. LANCE LATHAM:
APPROVED WORKMEN ARE NOT ASHAMED
AWANA: THE "BOY-SCOUTS" OF KING-JAMES BIBLE MEMORIZATION !
John UK wrote: Ah, now you're talkin'. If you are recommending being worshipful all day, singing to the Lord, praying and praising, even preaching and teaching, and giving of thanks, then I am right there with you. If you know of any church which does that, let me know, as I would like to attend.
"All-day" worship is not what God requires of us. Witness and evangelism for example requires other uses of our talents.
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: 16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure
The Awana is a good organization, especially when it's in a good church like IHCC or, Christian Fellowship Church go to this one if your in the Hammond/Chicago area not the one that the Ranter goes to which is First Baptist of Hammond.
Jesuits love you Ranter, especially since you left the Romish Church, but just as a reminder
Webster's 1913 Dictionary wrote: RANT:
Rant /Rant/ (rant), v. i. [imp. & p. p. Ranted; p. pr. & vb. n. Ranting.] [OD. ranten, randen, to dote, to be enraged.] To rave in violent, high-sounding, or extravagant language, without dignity of thought; to be noisy, boisterous, and bombastic in talk or declamation; as, a ranting preacher.... Rant /Rant/, n. High-sounding language, without importance or dignity of thought; boisterous, empty declamation; bombast; as, the rant of fanatics....
Hebrews 2 17 Therefore, He had to be made like His brethren in all things, that He might become a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people.---NASB
"JESUIT(IC)S" POSTING COMMENTS ON THIS THREAD: STAY ON TOPIC; AND,
THE FOLLOWING IS NOT TAKEN FROM THE N.A.S.B PER-VERSION:
"...AND THERE WERE SHEPHERDS ABIDING IN THE FIELD, KEEPING WATCH OVER THEIR FLOCK BY NIGHT;
AND LO, THE ANGEL OF THE LORD CAME UPON THEM, AND THE GLORY OF THE LORD SHONE ROUND ABOUT THEM; AND THEY WERE SORE AFRAID.
AND THE ANGEL SAID UNTO THEM, FEAR NOT, FOR BEHOLD, I BRING YOU GLAD TIDINGS OF GREAT JOY WHICH SHALL BE TO ALL PEOPLE;
FOR UNTO YOU IS BORN THIS DAY, IN THE CITY OF DAVID; A SAVIOR, WHICH IS CHRIST THE LORD...
AND SUDDENLY, THERE WAS WITH THE ANGEL A MULTITUDE OF THE HEAVENLY HOST, PRAISING GOD AND SAYING:
GLORY TO GOD IN THE HIGHEST; AND, ON EARTH PEACE: GOOD WILL TOWARD MEN."--LUKE 2:8-14 !
(NOT FAR FROM MY BROS. & MY SALVATION IN 1975; PASTOR FRANK JOYNER ('67 BJU GRAD) AT CALVARY BAPTIST CHURCH, GENEVA, IL, ASKED US IF WE'D ALL QUOTE--BY MEMORY--VERSES FROM THE ABOVE LUKE 2:8-14 FOR CALVARY'S CHRISTMAS-SERVICE.
WE (JOHN-LUIS-MYSELF-ROBERT-JESSE) QUOTED IT BY HEART: OLDEST TO YOUNGEST ! AMEN !)
I Owe ALOT Of My AUTHORIZED HOLY KING JAMES BIBLE Memorization To THE AWANA CLUBS; Founded By BR. LANCE LATHAM:
APPROVED WORKMEN ARE NOT ASHAMED
**AWANA:
THE "BOY-SCOUTS" OF KING-JAMES BIBLE MEMORIZATION ! ! !
joytiding wrote: The preacher and the faith-sharer and the hymn singer do not just repeat the Bible verbatim. So logically you could add more. PS: This repetition does not seem to bother the 24 elders.... 10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, 11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
Ah, now you're talkin'.
If you are recommending being worshipful all day, singing to the Lord, praying and praising, even preaching and teaching, and giving of thanks, then I am right there with you.
If you know of any church which does that, let me know, as I would like to attend.
**"JESUIT(IC)S" POSTING COMMENTS ON THIS THREAD: STAY ON TOPIC; AND,
THE FOLLOWING IS NOT TAKEN FROM THE N.A.S.B PER-VERSION:
"...AND THERE WERE SHEPHERDS ABIDING IN THE FIELD, KEEPING WATCH OVER THEIR FLOCK BY NIGHT;
AND LO, THE ANGEL OF THE LORD CAME UPON THEM, AND THE GLORY OF THE LORD SHONE ROUND ABOUT THEM; AND THEY WERE SORE AFRAID.
AND THE ANGEL SAID UNTO THEM, FEAR NOT, FOR BEHOLD, I BRING YOU GLAD TIDINGS OF GREAT JOY WHICH SHALL BE TO ALL PEOPLE;
FOR UNTO YOU IS BORN THIS DAY, IN THE CITY OF DAVID; A SAVIOR, WHICH IS CHRIST THE LORD...
AND SUDDENLY, THERE WAS WITH THE ANGEL A MULTITUDE OF THE HEAVENLY HOST, PRAISING GOD AND SAYING:
GLORY TO GOD IN THE HIGHEST; AND, ON EARTH PEACE: GOOD WILL TOWARD MEN."--LUKE 2:8-14 !
(Forgive The Punctuation; As It Might NOT Be The EXACT Punctuation As FOUND IN OUR BELOVED & BLESSED HISTORIC AUTHORIZED ENGLISH KING JAMES HOLY BIBLE.
I've Taken To MEMORIZING THE KING JAMES BIBLE; CHAPTERS, SECTIONS & VERSES: Since I've Been TRUELY AUTHORIZED-BIBLICALLY & HOLY-SPIRITUALLY "BORN-AGAIN" At 16.)
I Owe ALOT Of My AUTHORIZED HOLY KING JAMES BIBLE Memorization To THE AWANA CLUBS; Founded By Br. Lance Latham:
Apporved Workmen Are Not Ashamed
AWANA:
**THE "BOY-SCOUTS" OF KING-JAMES BIBLE MEMORIZATION !
John UK wrote: I think it would get a little tedious to repeat, "Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men" all day long. Or do you have something else in mind?
The preacher and the faith-sharer and the hymn singer do not just repeat the Bible verbatim. So logically you could add more.
PS: This repetition does not seem to bother the 24 elders.... 10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, 11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
THE FOLLOWING IS NOT TAKEN FROM THE N.A.S.B PER-VERSION:
"...AND THERE WERE SHEPHERDS ABIDING IN THE FIELD, KEEPING WATCH OVER THEIR FLOCK BY NIGHT;
AND LO, THE ANGEL OF THE LORD CAME UPON THEM, AND THE GLORY OF THE LORD SHONE ROUND ABOUT THEM; AND THEY WERE SORE AFRAID.
AND THE ANGEL SAID UNTO THEM, FEAR NOT, FOR BEHOLD, I BRING YOU GLAD TIDINGS OF GREAT JOY WHICH SHALL BE TO ALL PEOPLE;
FOR UNTO YOU IS BORN THIS DAY, IN THE CITY OF DAVID; A SAVIOR, WHICH IS CHRIST THE LORD...
AND SUDDENLY, THERE WAS WITH THE ANGEL A MULTITUDE OF THE HEAVENLY HOST, PRAISING GOD AND SAYING:
GLORY TO GOD IN THE HIGHEST; AND, ON EARTH PEACE: GOOD WILL TOWARD MEN." LUKE 2:8-14 !
(Forgive The Punctuation; As It Might NOT Be The EXACT Punctuation As FOUND IN OUR BELOVED & BLESSED HISTORIC AUTHORIZED ENGLISH KING JAMES HOLY BIBLE.
I've Taken To MEMORIZING THE KING JAMES BIBLE; CHAPTERS, SECTIONS & VERSES: Since I've Been TRUELY AUTHORIZED-BIBLICALLY & HOLY-SPIRITUALLY "BORN-AGAIN" At 16.)
I Owe ALOT Of My AUTHORIZED HOLY KING JAMES BIBLE Memorization To THE AWANA CLUBS; Founded By Br. Lance Latham:
Apporved Workmen Are Not Ashamed
AWANA:THE "BOY-SCOUTS" OF KING-JAMES BIBLE MEMORIZATION !
**NOTE: When THE KJB IS QUOTED; "JESUITICS" QUOTE SATAN'S NASB-PerVersion.
joytiding wrote: What a celebration of the birth of Jesus that must have been with the glory of the Lord and even the angels of heaven involved. We should repeat this celebration for the world at least once a year, expecially since they don't keep the Sabbath/Sunday worship.
I think it would get a little tedious to repeat, "Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men" all day long. Or do you have something else in mind? _____
Thanks Steve. So from what I can gather, the Belgic Confession came out before the WCF.
"Luke 2:8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. 9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid. 10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. 11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. 12 And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger. 13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, 14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men"
Wow!! What a celebration of the birth of Jesus that must have been with the glory of the Lord and even the angels of heaven involved. We should repeat this celebration for the world at least once a year, expecially since they don't keep the Sabbath/Sunday worship.
THERE WERE SHEPHERDS ABIDING IN THE FIELD, KEEPING WATCH OVER THEIR FLOCK BY NIGHT;
AND LO, THE ANGEL OF THE LORD CAME UPON THEM, AND THE GLORY OF THE LORD SHONE ROUND ABOUT THEM; AND THEY WERE SORE AFRAID.
AND THE ANGEL SAID UNTO THEM, FEAR NOT, FOR BEHOLD, I BRING YOU GLAD TIDINGS OF GREAT JOY WHICH SHALL BE TO ALL PEOPLE;
FOR UNTO YOU IS BORN THIS DAY, IN THE CITY OF DAVID; A SAVIOR, WHICH IS CHRIST THE LORD...
AND SUDDENLY, THERE WAS WITH THE ANGEL A MULTITUDE OF THE HEAVENLY HOST, PRAISING GOD AND SAYING:
GLORY BE TO GOD IN THE HIGHEST; AND, ON EARTH PEACE: GOOD WILL TOWARD MEN." LUKE 2:8-14 !
(Forgive The Punctuation; As It Might NOT Be The EXACT Punctuation As FOUND IN OUR BELOVED & BLESSED HISTORIC AUTHORIZED ENGLISH KING JAMES HOLY BIBLE.
Albeit, I Do Believe My "EXACT WORD MEMORY" & "EXACT VERBAL RECITATION" Is STILL INTACT In My "Old-Age": As I've Taken To MEMORIZING THE KING JAMES BIBLE; CHAPTERS, SECTIONS & VERSES: Since I've Been TRUELY AUTHORIZED-BIBLICALLY & HOLY-SPIRITUALLY "BORN-AGAIN" At 16.)
**I Owe ALOT Of My AUTHORIZED HOLY KING JAMES BIBLE Memorization To THE AWANA CLUBS; Founded By Br. Lance Latham:
Apporved Workmen Are Not Ashamed
**AWANA:THE "BOY-SCOUTS" OF KING-JAMES BIBLE MEMORIZATION !
SteveR wrote: --- We have one church near me that is a RCUS(Reformed Church of the US)church that is very proud of the Reformed Heritage and their adherence to the three forms of unity. So much so, in their Synod they have consecrated themselves 'Guardians of Orthodoxy' for all Christendom. This all takes place with a two story Christmas tree next to the pulpit this time of year. When I asked their pastor how they reconcile their self appointed status with their pagan tree of the Chaldees, I was told that they have discussed it in Consistory and find ABSOLUTELY NOTHING wrong with it. ---
The Bible speaks of unity of the Spirit and unity of the faith. Curious about what the third one might be?
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mr b: "franks explanation , i agree with that . it's straight from the bible."
