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SUNDAY, MAR 24, 2013  |  205 comments  |  2 commentaries
FAU student says he was suspended for not 'stepping on Jesus'

A student at Florida Atlantic University's campus in Davie says he couldn't believe what he and his fellow students were asked to do by their instructor three weeks ago.

Ryan Rotela, a junior from Coral Springs at FAU, said what happened was an insult to his intelligence.

He said the instructor in his Intercultural Communications class at FAU told everyone in the class to take out a piece of paper, write the word JESUS on it in bold letters, and then put the paper on the floor and stomp on it. ...


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John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Grace wrote:
I don't know John Y JUK.
John Yurich I know, but who is Grace?
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News Item3/26/13 3:58 PM
Grace  Find all comments by Grace
I don't know John Y JUK.

John Y!!! Make YOURSELF KNOWN.

Am I getting closer John? How many types are there sitting around you at Mass John? What are the names of his women disciples? In your church John, I KNOW, how the real men are dwarfed in the shadow of the ladies adoration of 'Christ'. Sneaky isn't it?

Or are you one of those sitting on a 'lay committee' in obedience and on a mission for your masters?

Who do you report to John Y?

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News Item3/26/13 3:42 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Grace wrote:
Does it occur to you that John is making an attempt to come out? But that the alternatives don't appear to be any better than what he already has?
How well do you know John Y, Grace?
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News Item3/26/13 3:12 PM
Grace  Find all comments by Grace
Does it occur to you that John is making an attempt to come out? But that the alternatives don't appear to be any better than what he already has?
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News Item3/26/13 2:22 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
By the way, if it hasn't been mentioned, University Apologizes for “Stomping Jesus”

I suppose John Y., wants self-justification for not being a Christian and for not Come[ing] Out Of The Catholic Church (PDF)? What information he has been exposed to now over the years, he is willingly abetting and helping The Church of Rome... (PDF). He is found guilty of not making the Pilgrimage From Rome.

Yes, John Y., we're waiting for you to become a Christian, a person who now knows as much as you, isn't one if he stays and helps the Romish Church even by his presence? You certainly don't give any money to it do you?

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News Item3/26/13 1:30 PM
Heidi Glum  Find all comments by Heidi Glum
Grace wrote:
Its my guess he came here to 'reach out' to you.
Then John is a model.
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News Item3/26/13 1:13 PM
Grace  Find all comments by Grace
"Being an ex Roman Catholic, how do/would you go about trying to reach those who are addicted to the ritual and pomp"

You can't 'reach' them. How do you reach the 'rich'? Are you asking what the formula is? John Y doesn't want to be reached. Its my guess he came here to 'reach out' to you.

They have to come away all by themselves. The elite look down on others Chris. You don't listen to people you think are inferior to you.

John Y is the definition of hypocrisy. He just 'omits' to say certain words in the Mass which he doesn't agree with. So his religion is childish to say the least. He thinks he has to utter something with his mouth before he is guilty. But John KNOWS the Mass is a community affair. In one voice the Mass is said. You can omitt to say whatever you like, the others are saying it for you.

Cathoicism is not built on facts. So the facts are a lesser importance. Your work with the canon would be very useful with evangelicals who think Catholicism is just another 'nice' way of doing lunch with God.

Facts don't save anyone from religious addictions.

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News Item3/26/13 10:24 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Christopher000 wrote:
Thanks, John...aside from spilling facts, I wasn't sure how to ever go about appealing to someones emotional attachments to the mass, and other rituals. I figure that comparing anything and everything to the Bible is the meat that has the power to get someone healthy. I was curious to know what other way there is to appeal to a Roman Catholic, or whoever who has deep emotional attachments. I'm missing an answer to that question
The apostle also had to deal with devoutly religious folks, Chris. Not easy, to be sure. But better to declare truth than counter falsehood. God is able to remove emotional attachments. I expect you are testimony to that.

Acts 17:22-23 KJV
22 Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars' hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious.
23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.

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News Item3/26/13 9:59 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Thanks, John...aside from spilling facts, I wasn't sure how to ever go about appealing to someones emotional attachments to the mass, and other rituals. I figure that comparing anything and everything to the Bible is the meat that has the power to get someone healthy. I was curious to know what other way there is to appeal to a Roman Catholic, or whoever who has deep emotional attachments. I'm missing an answer to that question
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News Item3/26/13 8:45 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Christopher000 wrote:
I was thinking about this more and am a bit confused. If any Roman Catholic can ever hope to be set free, they must, first, hear the truth. Hearing the truth is the same as getting the facts. So, if a Roman Catholic never gets the facts (hears the truth), how can they ever hope to be set free and what reason would they ever have to leave the "one true church"? I'm not sure I consider getting the facts out an intellectual exercise and am wondering if there is any other way of witnessing? Isn't witnessing simply conveying facts?
Your thinking is not confused Christopher. Conveying biblical facts is sowing seed, the seed of the word. This is the mission of the church, for "faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God".

We save no-one, it is God who saves:

1 Corinthians 3:5-7 KJV
5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

That way, it is to God's glory whenever anyone is converted.

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News Item3/26/13 8:28 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
I was thinking about this more and am a bit confused. If any Roman Catholic can ever hope to be set free, they must, first, hear the truth. Hearing the truth is the same as getting the facts. So, if a Roman Catholic never gets the facts (hears the truth), how can they ever hope to be set free and what reason would they ever have to leave the "one true church"? I'm not sure I consider getting the facts out an intellectual exercise and am wondering if there is any other way of witnessing? Isn't witnessing simply conveying facts?
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News Item3/26/13 8:13 AM
Watchman  Find all comments by Watchman
John yurich USA wrote:
My priest is not cognizant that I refrain from participating in the unscriptural parts to the Mass as he doesn't notice that I don't say "and I ask the blessed Mary ever virgin" during the reciting of the Nicene Creed. And the priest doesn't know that I don't pay attention during the eucharistic prayer mention of the Mass being a sacrifice and the intercession of the Virgin Mary and the Saints.
No chance you ever being persecuted for your faith

John UK wrote:
Observe the charismatics and altercallers who pander to emotions to get people "saved".
Well said!
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News Item3/26/13 8:00 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
John yurich USA wrote:
My priest is not cognizant that I refrain from participating in the unscriptural parts to the Mass as he doesn't notice that I don't say "and I ask the blessed Mary ever virgin" during the reciting of the Nicene Creed. And the priest doesn't know that I don't pay attention during the eucharistic prayer mention of the Mass being a sacrifice and the intercession of the Virgin Mary and the Saints.
What about the Catholic Secret Police and all the CCTV recordings?
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News Item3/26/13 7:38 AM
John yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John yurich USA
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Now I am confused. More than once (latest one I found on 12-16)you have said, "If I refrain from participating in the unscriptural parts to the Mass then I am not supporting the unscriptural parts of the Mass."
If you REFRAIN from participating how could the RCC NOT be aware of what you believe?
My priest is not cognizant that I refrain from participating in the unscriptural parts to the Mass as he doesn't notice that I don't say "and I ask the blessed Mary ever virgin" during the reciting of the Nicene Creed. And the priest doesn't know that I don't pay attention during the eucharistic prayer mention of the Mass being a sacrifice and the intercession of the Virgin Mary and the Saints.
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News Item3/26/13 7:19 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Hmmm, I understand what you are saying, Grace, and thank you, but I just always figured that since the Bible is our sole authority, and soure of information for salvation and Christian living, not to mention our source for discernment, that it was always the best way to refute any false religion or cult. I do think differently in that I use the Bible to figure out who is right, who is wrong, and which way to go. Until your post, I just figured that everyone who truly wanted to know the truth would want to use the Bible as their guide, but since most Roman Catholics rely upon the homilies for their food, never opening their Bibles, I always figure that when they hear the real facts, the facts according to God Himself, it will befin to cause a change within them, or at least get them to begin asking questions. I have come to realize, for the couple on this forum anyway, that this is not working. I am beginning to wonder though if the fact of the matter is that they are just simply not interested in the truth according to God.
Being an ex Roman Catholic, how do/would you go about trying to reach those who are addicted to the ritual and pomp?
I guess they just have to be at a point where they are open and actually want to know the truth. Until then, maybe it's all in vain?
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News Item3/26/13 6:07 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Grace wrote:
Catholicism tends more toward feelings and emotions...
Are you suggesting that Catholics be evangelised differently from others, because they are used to religious "experiences", such as goosebumps etc.?

I rather think they need to hear the glorious gospel of God's grace, for it is through the preaching of the cross that God has chosen to save them that believe.

Besides which, mental assent never saved anyone. There are plenty of intellectuals who are pseudo believers. Christianity begins with regeneration, and that can happen to anyone, a tot, a grannie, a mercenary. In it, the Spirit of God convicts of sin. That can be such an experience as to cause intense weeping, as the sinner realises what a wretch they are, and where they deserve to go. Such a visitation of Christ can hardly be described as "intellectual". When he commands "Repent", is that "intellectual"?

If a man is a rock musician, do we devise special ways to evangelise him? If a man is on drugs? Or is a Jehovah's Witness? No need, for the one gospel message will bring to Christ all whom God has chosen. ".....preach the gospel to every creature".

Observe the charismatics and altercallers who pander to emotions to get people "saved".

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News Item3/26/13 5:28 AM
Watchman  Find all comments by Watchman
Grace wrote:
Perhaps the facts you present would be suitable for a person who is able to be reached intellectually, not everyone thinks as you do. Catholicism tends more toward feelings and emotions ....
The problem in a sense has nothing to do with intellect or feelings. Conversion does not depend on how smart or how sensitive one is.

The problem is moral and spiritual. Unbelievers are dead in their sins, held fast by the devil in a state of darkness and rebellion against God. Only God can loose their chains and lighten their darkened minds. God has to break in on their souls to reveal to them their true state before him and the remedy in Christ before the gospel makes sense so as attract them.

We can present the arguments ever so persuasively but unless God should bless what we do, the result will always be the same viz. no results on the spiritually insensitive.

Thomas Watson pointed out that God intends the gospel to work like the sun and will affect some like the heat does wax viz. melt them, and others like clay viz. bake them hard!!

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News Item3/25/13 10:44 PM
Grace  Find all comments by Grace
Christopher000 wrote:
I am actually a little bit angry that after so much time spent speaking the truth concerning the many heresies of the Roman Catholic church, and posting fact, after fact, after fact, it all continues to fall upon deaf ears.

Perhaps the facts you present would be suitable for a person who is able to be reached intellectually, not everyone thinks as you do. Catholicism tends more toward feelings and emotions - hence the focus on the suffering Christ. Or the Blessed Mystery's. Even the rosary is designed as an experience, as are the stations of the cross.
Facts are 'lesser' than experience.
Hence the elaborate 'play' or 'journey' at special occassions like Lent, Easter, Advent. Its all experiential. There is a lot of role play. The worst aspect for me was when I realised the priest role-plays Christ. A boundary is not observed. This is one of the marks of mysticism. Boundary's are not observed.

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News Item3/25/13 7:09 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Christopher000 wrote:
I am actually a little bit angry that after so much time spent speaking the truth concerning the many heresies of the Roman Catholic church, and posting fact, after fact, after fact, it all continues to fall upon deaf ears.
Theologically sharp and on the button.

I've even had workmates tell me, "I'm afraid your words are falling on hard ground with me."

In those days, most people had a good background in the Bible, and knew about such things as the parable of the sower, the Lord's Prayer, the devil, heaven and hell, the prodigal son, samson and delilah, noah etc.

But the majority of people are the walking dead, and will never discern the truth about why Christ died, nor the truth about eternal punishment, nor will they ever desire to leave their sins and follow Jesus. They even jokingly say, "I want to go to hell, that's where all my friends have gone."

Our words are heard by the ear, but the meaning falls on deaf ears. It is a mystery to them. This is very sad, but it is the human deserved condition, for each one sinned in Adam and lost touch with reality, including us, Christopher.

"And you hath he quickened, which were dead....."

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News Item3/25/13 6:04 PM
Cliff Leckey | N. Ireland  Find all comments by Cliff Leckey
Loyalist wrote:
And some of the Queen's subjects haven't bowed the knee in submission to the Pope in sackcloth and ashes unlike ... the Queen.
God save the Queen!
I agree of course.
Sad to see the Monarch trapesing to rome dressed in black garb.
Only for having a strong stomach I would throw up.
God save The Queen.
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