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Choice News TUESDAY, NOV 13, 2012  |  180 comments
The petition to let Texas secede from the U.S. to be reviewed by the White House

As of 3:40 p.m. ET, more than 25,000 Texans have already signed the petition on The White House website to let Texas peacefully secede from United States of America and “create its own NEW government.”

The petition, created on Nov. 9, argues for secession.


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News Item11/13/12 10:25 AM
Jubilee  Find all comments by Jubilee
Mike wrote:
Would send troops to defend Union from "treason."
We should let them go. We will make up the numbers with Puerto Rico.
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News Item11/13/12 10:19 AM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
Angela Wittman wrote:
Lurker, If all God wanted me to do was plan for Heaven, why not take me there immediately after conversion? I think we are commanded to make disciples of the nations and this has practical implications for the Christian.
Indeed, preach the gospel to all nations (Gentiles). But Jesus also taught....

Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

.... so entire nations (countries as you seem to interpret the word) will never become Christian because not all will believe.

By the criteria you answered Dietcan's post, you have described the commonwealth of Israel, and the better promises, which God has been building since the first century.

Again I ask, why attempt to duplicate what God has already established 2,000 years ago (the kingdom of God aka the commonwealth of Israel), not at the end of days as you seem to imply?

Gotta go. I'll check in tonight.

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News Item11/13/12 10:10 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Mike wrote:
Would send troops to defend Union from "treason."
Lincoln didn't call for troops until SC commenced hostilities by firing on a Federal fort. If that wasn't a "casus belli" requiring a military response, I don't know what is. Presumably a new Republic of Texas would not be so stupid. If you want the moral high ground, let your opponent strike the 1st blow.

As I said before, being on the losing side of a Presidential election is not a reasonable ground for secession. It is the essence of anarchy, as Lincoln said. If Texas really cared about Federal tyranny, they should've seceded back in the '30s, or at least the '60s. But maybe they couldn't resist all those wonder transfer payments (welfare, subsidies).

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News Item11/13/12 9:59 AM
Angela Wittman | SW Illinois  Find all comments by Angela Wittman
Lurker, If all God wanted me to do was plan for Heaven, why not take me there immediately after conversion? I think we are commanded to make disciples of the nations and this has practical implications for the Christian.
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News Item11/13/12 9:55 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
jpw wrote:
I also support their efforts.
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If people were living off their land, such as they did during the depression, they can get through transition.
people are on food stamps, forms of gov subsistence. cut off the state, they cannot survive.
its looking like that may happen anyway, (cut subs) and when the masses realize this, maybe they can sway to open up the land again,people getting cited for growing gardens in the front yards, chicken ordinances that are prohibitive, high land taxes, arresting raw milk providers.
---, being able to feed your family is the beginning of independence.
the writers of the Cohn were farmers.
the middle class growth of america was built off of opening the land (which was stolen from the Indian Tribes).
Lastfirst: The tribes stole it from each other first. Fallen nature of man not limited to white eyes.

Govt owns 30% of US land. Open it to farms & development. Means more revenue for govt, too.

But, govt is against independence, wants dependence, personal and State.

Texas is a producer State. Govt needs it to pay for non-procucer States like NY, so would not like secession. Would hear speeches about unity, fair sharing, etc. Would send troops to defend Union from "treason."

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News Item11/13/12 9:55 AM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
Angela Wittman wrote:
Folks, if the separation is from tyranny and in order to serve God as in forming a Christian Commonwealth or Christian nation, then I'm all for it.
Such a commonwealth already exists (Eph 2:12), Angela. God is the builder and maker thereof (Heb 11:10). Why would you support an attempt to duplicate God's handiwork which can't possibly succeed?

This is a perfect example of what distinguishes Puritans from Pilgrims.

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News Item11/13/12 9:55 AM
Angela Wittman | SW Illinois  Find all comments by Angela Wittman
Dear Dietcan,
A Christian nation or commonwealth is going to explicitly acknowledge Jesus Christ as Lord and the Christian religion as the true religion in it's founding documents. It will then base it's laws on Biblical Principles and actual laws as found in Scripture which would be applicable to today's society. What does a nation do with unbelievers? I suppose the same as Israel did... One certainly doesn't persecute them, but if they don't have a Biblical Worldview, then they certainly couldn't be elected as leaders. Anyway, this is just my opinion and there are better minds out there who can work through these details. Sadly, I can't think of any present examples of truly Christian nations or I would be clamoring to move there.
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News Item11/13/12 9:26 AM
Dietcan  Find all comments by Dietcan
Angela Wittman wrote:
a Christian Commonwealth or Christian nation,
Definition?
Examples?
What would you have such a nation do with unbelievers?
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News Item11/13/12 9:22 AM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
I also support their efforts.

The reality is that it probably cannot happen.

I believe the current intention as seen from Lincoln movie coming is this scenario and infighting. while the stock market goes down, hyperinflation finally hits, the healthcare causing people to be fired small business to be destroyed, and the left and right so ignorant of how this happens -- will start to steal from each other to survive.

all the talking heads have openly stated their ultimate goal is eugenics and depopulation. georgia guidestones.

If people were living off their land, such as they did during the depression, they can get through transition.

people are on food stamps, forms of gov subsistence. cut off the state, they cannot survive.

its looking like that may happen anyway, (cut subs) and when the masses realize this, maybe they can sway to open up the land again, prob not.

people getting cited for growing gardens in the front yards, chicken ordinances that are prohibitive, high land taxes, arresting raw milk providers.

I'm telling you all, being able to feed your family is the beginning of independence.

the writers of the Cohn were farmers.

the middle class growth of america was built off of opening the land (which was stolen from the Indian Tribes).

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News Item11/13/12 9:14 AM
Angela Wittman | SW Illinois  Find all comments by Angela Wittman
Folks, if the separation is from tyranny and in order to serve God as in forming a Christian Commonwealth or Christian nation, then I'm all for it. But if these states want to secede in order to be mini versions of America with more conservative or libertarian values, then I advise extreme caution. In other words, if you are going to lay down your lives, make sure it is for something that will last and brings honor to Christ - not a temporary fix. Frankly, I don't think the people advocating secession are for the most part Christian and they'll not get my support.
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News Item11/13/12 8:27 AM
Philpot  Find all comments by Philpot
As a liberal I believe that all power should be devolved to the lowest possible level so that people can run their own lives.

Good to see Texas go Liberal!

Rufus wrote:
I am favorable towards this or any state freely leaving the union they freely entered. However, there are plenty of tyrannical practices exhibited by the leadership of this state against its citizens that it would not be some sort of default victory for freedom just because we rid ourselves of one layer of tyrants.
or as JY would say

John Yurich USA wrote:
I have come around to support the secession of Texas from the union
John Yurich USA wrote:
It is apparent that [Texas] along with every other liberal is insane and psychotic and is in league with Satan.
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News Item11/13/12 8:13 AM
Rufus | Fort Worth, TX  Protected NameFind all comments by Rufus
I am favorable towards this or any state freely leaving the union they freely entered. However, there are plenty of tyrannical practices exhibited by the leadership of this state against its citizens that it would not be some sort of default victory for freedom just because we rid ourselves of one layer of tyrants.
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News Item11/13/12 7:53 AM
D Mike Canard  Find all comments by D Mike Canard
Marty wrote:
Countries break apart fairly regularly
No, empires break apart regularly. Countries reassert their independence.

The Lone Star State is rising again.

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News Item11/13/12 7:52 AM
Barry from KY | Northern KY  Find all comments by Barry from KY
Oh great, another mini-nation we will have to send foreign aid to!
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News Item11/13/12 7:39 AM
Planned Secessionhood  Find all comments by Planned Secessionhood
Until they first end their insatiable appetite for Sanger's orgy-pill, liberalism will undergird secessionist plans.
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News Item11/13/12 7:01 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
The poster formerly known as Russ wrote:
John Y I guess that question is answered in large part by how serious you think the Marxist take over of America is. I would support secession, but truth be told I have cut ties altogether and am just claiming my citizenship in that better country that is coming.
I have come around to support the secession of Texas from the union after reading the Satanic garbage about this story on the Facebook page for the Democratic Party. I will go even further and suggest that every other state that is tired of the liberals pushing their Satanic agendas of abortion and homosexuality to secede from the union.
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News Item11/13/12 6:56 AM
The poster formerly known as Russ | Texas  Find all comments by The poster formerly known as Russ
John Y I guess that question is answered in large part by how serious you think the Marxist take over of America is. I would support secession, but truth be told I have cut ties altogether and am just claiming my citizenship in that better country that is coming.
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News Item11/13/12 6:56 AM
Marty | Usa  Find all comments by Marty
Countries break apart fairly regularly
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News Item11/13/12 6:12 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Daniel B wrote:
Good for Texas. I pray they do it so the rest of the states will do it.
Texas tried that once and the Civil War began. Do you wish there be another Civil War?
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News Item11/13/12 4:21 AM
Daniel B | North  Protected NameFind all comments by Daniel B
Good for Texas. I pray they do it so the rest of the states will do it.
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