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Gay pride rally in Georgia derailed

Thousands of anti-gay protesters, including Orthodox priests, occupied a central street in Georgia's capital Friday, with some threatening to lash with stinging nettles any participant in a gay pride parade which was to take place there.

Police in Tbilisi guarded several dozen gay activists and bused them out of the city center shortly after they arrived at the gathering. Those occupying the street held posters reading "We don't need Sodom and Gomorrah!" and "Democracy does not equal immorality!"

Police, however, failed to prevent scuffles, which resulted in 16 people getting injured, the ambulance service said. ...


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Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Lisa wrote:
Being truly born again is a terrible experience and standing before god as a hell bound sinner cannot be induced by a man. If you read of revivals you will see that men were stopped in their tracts by the supernatural power of god and they came in repentance to the churches begging-what must I do to be born again. Can I say it again- when I was truly born again I could hardly speak for at least 24 hours....I sat in my pastors kitchen and tried to make sense of it....to come to the realisation that I was indeed dead and no longer living. The gospel is the power of god. And yes we must affirm what our king feels on these matters, but much ( o dear how much you will never know) am I forgiven. How could I go around pointing the finger and whipping others with nettles. It is I that deserve the nettles....
Yes Lisa, there are no religious courts that sentence man to death, prison, or beating with nettles. (whatever they are ) I am only referring to clearly affirming what scripture teaches about whatever is confronting us at that moment.

JPW, I appreciate your comment! You are not an evangelical feminist.

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News Item5/19/13 4:50 PM
And now  Find all comments by And now
Lisa wrote:
When I was truly born again I did not need any conviction from the flesh of man- true salvation must be of the spirit. Being truly born again is a terrible experience and standing before god as a hell bound sinner cannot be induced by a man. If you read of revivals you will see that men were stopped in their tracts by the supernatural power of god and they came in repentance to the churches begging-what must I do to be born again. Can I say it again- when I was truly born again I could hardly speak for at least 24 hours....I sat in my pastors kitchen and tried to make sense of it....to come to the realisation that I was indeed dead and no longer living. The gospel is the power of god. And yes we must affirm what our king feels on these matters, but much ( o dear how much you will never know) am I forgiven. How could I go around pointing the finger and whipping others with nettles. It is I that deserve the nettles....
And now because you're so spiritual the Spirit communicates directly with you, and that's why you treat the word of God so lightly, and disdain those who put any value on it. You now live by gut feeling (which you refer to as living in the spirit) and think that this is living by faith. Truth is you just want attention.
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News Item5/19/13 4:39 PM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
When I was truly born again I did not need any conviction from the flesh of man- true salvation must be of the spirit. Being truly born again is a terrible experience and standing before god as a hell bound sinner cannot be induced by a man. If you read of revivals you will see that men were stopped in their tracts by the supernatural power of god and they came in repentance to the churches begging-what must I do to be born again. Can I say it again- when I was truly born again I could hardly speak for at least 24 hours....I sat in my pastors kitchen and tried to make sense of it....to come to the realisation that I was indeed dead and no longer living. The gospel is the power of god. And yes we must affirm what our king feels on these matters, but much ( o dear how much you will never know) am I forgiven. How could I go around pointing the finger and whipping others with nettles. It is I that deserve the nettles....
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News Item5/19/13 4:35 PM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
Lisa, I think you do not respect the role that God gave to men as protectors.

It's one thing to disagree on theology or fact, but you seem to want to belittle the qualities that make men what they are...

these orgy parades are aggressive and unacceptable behavior on the streets of any society, it wreaks of chaos, perversions and abuse of the innocent.

any loving father would feel disgust, just as I do when a car swerves to scare a pedestrian or an elderly woman is pushed around in the grocery aisle.. you want people to not be pulled into these perversions, and abused and confused, then you should encourage the Godly men that hold back evil in society by their good deeds and righteous living and sacrifice to their families!

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News Item5/19/13 4:13 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Lisa

Okay let’s say we encounter homosexual activists or simply those who are living in and practicing that lifestyle. We rightfully tell them that all fall short of God’s standards and they have to repent and be born again. They say they have repented and thrown themselves on the mercy of Christ and are born again. Do we then confront them with their sin of homosexuality and lovingly but clearly explain to them that they are practicing an abomination and can’t be saved regardless of their viewpoint towards that behavior. I think that was all that Mike was saying and I think that was Luther’s thoughts when he said we should fight the battle that presents itself to us. If it is homosexuality, then that is the battle. If it is total depravity and the need for God's grace, then that is the battle, etc.

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News Item5/19/13 3:37 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Lisa wrote:
Romans 12 vs 14 bless them that persecute you: bless and curse not ( in fact this whole chapter is informative).
Good text. And Paul gives the reason:

Romans 12:19 KJV
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

This is the coming day of wrath, when God shall blast his enemies, and repay them for all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed. Cast into hellfire, where is weeping and gnashing of teeth.

This is the one aspect of the character of God which we are not to be sanctified unto. Vengeance belongs only to God.

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News Item5/19/13 2:37 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Mike wrote:
We had a former homosexual speak at our church awhile back. Powerful testimony. I wouldn't call myself a "gay" basher. But I don't think of saying "no more" to the direction we are going in having demands put forth on us via marriage redefinition, pride in the corruption put on public display, etc., as bashing at all. When murderers and thieves and rapists "come out," they too should have the light of truth applied. If this is bashing, so be it. Selective application doesn't fit. In the "gay" scenario, you have to ask, who are the aggressors doing what promoting, and who is responding? Then ask, why is the response called bashing?
I agree Mike and a fellow named Luther also agreed with you.

If I profess with the loudest voice and clearest exposition every portion of the truth of God except precisely that little point which the world and the devil are attacking at that moment, I am not confessing Christ, however boldly I may be professing Christ. Where the battle rages, there the loyalty of the soldier is proved, and to be steady on all battlefields besides, is mere flight and disgrace if he flinches at that point.

This quote is attributed to Martin Luther.

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News Item5/19/13 2:17 PM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
Romans 12 vs 14 bless them that persecute you: bless and curse not ( in fact this whole chapter is informative).
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News Item5/19/13 1:52 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Lisa wrote:
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I don't condone this gay persecution of Christians thing but I would like to challenge folk to really pray about how they engage with gay people and whether there is a better way than whipping them with nettles.
Let me know what you think after listening to that testimony. And yes homosexuality dishonours Christ as does pornography but I would state that no Christian walking in the spirit could be involv
We had a former homosexual speak at our church awhile back. Powerful testimony. I wouldn't call myself a "gay" basher. But I don't think of saying "no more" to the direction we are going in having demands put forth on us via marriage redefinition, pride in the corruption put on public display, etc., as bashing at all. When murderers and thieves and rapists "come out," they too should have the light of truth applied. If this is bashing, so be it. Selective application doesn't fit. In the "gay" scenario, you have to ask, who are the aggressors doing what promoting, and who is responding? Then ask, why is the response called bashing?
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News Item5/19/13 12:41 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Lisa wrote:
...how they engage with gay people and whether there is a better way than whipping them with nettles.
I am no respector of persons. And if a sinner is a bank manager or a sodomite, they hear the same gospel from me of God's grace. Those who categorise people into groups, are failing to see that the whole world is guilty before God, for which the only remedy is the vicarious sufferings of Christ, who bore the wrath of God for the sins of all who would believe on him. You have to start there, Lisa - vicarious - in the place of - suffering the wrath and hell I deserved. This is what Jesus has done, and he has done it for sinners.
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News Item5/19/13 12:30 PM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
No Christian walking in the spirit could be involved in either and those not walking in the spirit but the flesh will not inherit the kingdom anyway ( gal 5).
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News Item5/19/13 12:28 PM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
If you have the time there's a good testimony by Rosaria butterfield posted by Kevin Swanson. Have a listen because that seriously challenged me to consider gay people not as public enemy number one but as lost sinners needing to hear the gospel.

A bit of testimony- when I was 17 I had a best friend and I loved her ( not in a sexual sense but in a person to person sense) and we went everywhere together. She was not gay and neither am I. Well, because we spent so much time together my patents added two and two together and made five- we were accused of being in a lesbian relationship ( it was complicated by the fact that I was secretly seeing her brother). My patents were vile, and at one point my father beat me up and chucked me out ( it was Christmas morning). You know that damaged our relationship and it caused hatred....I can understand how gay people can become bitter. I don't condone this gay persecution of Christians thing but I would like to challenge folk to really pray about how they engage with gay people and whether there is a better way than whipping them with nettles.

Let me know what you think after listening to that testimony. And yes homosexuality dishonours Christ as does pornography but I would state that no Christian walking in the spirit could be involv

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News Item5/19/13 12:27 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Mike wrote:
Gay pride parades by their very existence are Christ-bashing events. Perhaps strategically Christians should take a different stance and distance themselves from the Christ-bashing crowd.
Which, being interpreted means, "Don't cast gems to pigs."?
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News Item5/19/13 12:20 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Lisa wrote:
I dunno and can't comment mike- I never been to a gay pride event ???
You've probably never been to a porn movie either. Does that mean you couldn't say whether by its very existence, if it was dishonoring to Christ or not?
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News Item5/19/13 12:06 PM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
I dunno and can't comment mike- I never been to a gay pride event ???
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News Item5/19/13 11:55 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Lisa wrote:
Russian orthodox church ( I assume) protesting against homosexuals. Hmmm- satans agent provocateurs....I think strategically Christians must take a different stance and distance themselves from the gay bashing crowd. Whipping people with nettles is so not the way forward IMHO !!!
Gay pride parades by their very existence are Christ-bashing events. Perhaps strategically Christians should take a different stance and distance themselves from the Christ-bashing crowd.
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News Item5/19/13 11:34 AM
What Hath God Wrought  Find all comments by What Hath God Wrought
Jesus used a whip of some sort. Nettles or not, he sure drove out the thieves. Perhaps these priests are on point more than most Western Christians. Georgian Evangelicals and Muslims should have accompanied this march efforts.

Rufus wrote:
At first consideration, I thought maybe this was an article about Atlanta rather than Tbilisi. When the article started out with "Thousands of anti-gay protesters..." I should have known this was nowhere in America. If the choice is between folks threatening to lash with stinging nettle or folks not doing a thing, I'm hard pressed to say which I would prefer. I would prefer though, the next time there is a sodomite pride parade in an American city 1/2 of 1% of the professed Christians in that city go lift a banner for the Lord and preach against it.
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News Item5/19/13 11:26 AM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
freedom does not give people the right to make our streets debaucherous.

this is what the men of old used to do, protect their neighborhoods and villages from outsiders that had come to destroy their way of life.

and besides a few scuffles that we know little about, it was done peacefully...

in the west the centralized system dictates to the man what he will be.

funny, it was the opposite when I was a kid. now Christians in Russia can speak their minds and brothers here get carted to jail. what a change!

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News Item5/19/13 11:16 AM
Rufus | Fort Worth, TX  Protected NameContact via emailFind all comments by Rufus
Lisa wrote:
Russian orthodox church ( I assume) protesting against homosexuals. Hmmm- satans agent provocateurs....I think strategically Christians must take a different stance and distance themselves from the gay bashing crowd. Whipping people with nettles is so not the way forward IMHO !!!
At first consideration, I thought maybe this was an article about Atlanta rather than Tbilisi. When the article started out with "Thousands of anti-gay protesters..." I should have known this was nowhere in America. If the choice is between folks threatening to lash with stinging nettle or folks not doing a thing, I'm hard pressed to say which I would prefer. I would prefer though, the next time there is a sodomite pride parade in an American city 1/2 of 1% of the professed Christians in that city go lift a banner for the Lord and preach against it.
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News Item5/19/13 6:44 AM
Classic example  Find all comments by Classic example
Lisa wrote:
Russian orthodox church ( I assume) protesting against homosexuals. Hmmm- satans agent provocateurs....I think strategically Christians must take a different stance and distance themselves from the gay bashing crowd. Whipping people with nettles is so not the way forward IMHO !!!
Classic example of when IMHO means just the opposite.
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