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At the height of the Cold War, it was common for American conservatives to label the officially atheist Soviet Union a “godless nation.”

More than two decades on, history has come full circle, as the Kremlin and its allies in the Russian Orthodox Church hurl the same allegation at the West.

“Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values,” Russian President Vladimir Putin said in a recent keynote speech. “Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan. This is the path to degradation.” ...


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One of Gods elect  Find all comments by One of Gods elect
SteveR wrote:
It would be nice if you paid attention to your fellow posters on this board. Im neither pretrib, mid trib, nor dispensational. Im a critic of that theology. I should mention that half of the people that you call 'Calvinist' would be in danger of being kindling for a fire in 16th century Geneva. Further you even have difficulty discerning between 1st Century Judaism and contemporary Talmudism.
Just another one of his/her heresies that he/she is plastering all over this board.
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News Item2/6/14 10:36 AM
Dopey  Find all comments by Dopey
CAB wrote:
...No way 2nd Coming in 2015. Need 3.5 year antichrist reign first. Think.
Excellent Cab I see you comprehend the truth that the anticrhrist must reign for years on this planet before Christ's visible return to earth. And that the things that must occur as part of the antichrists' reign before Christ's 2nd Coming haven't happened yet. How did to you come to that correct conclusion?
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News Item2/6/14 10:29 AM
CAB  Find all comments by CAB
some Greek wrote:
Acts 7:54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they *GNASHED* on him with their teeth.
Strongs - "Gnash"
G1031
brucho
A primary verb; to grate the teeth (in pain or rage): - gnash.
v55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God..
The question is not meaning of gnash. The question is if the gnashing of teeth was done ON Stephen or AT Stephen. Penny quoted NASB or some less-than-accurate Bible, which says the Jews gnashed their teeth AT Stephen.

But the KJB says the Jews gnashed their teeth ON Stephen.

And considering that while the Jews were gnashing on Stephen he looked up and saw Jesus in Heaven standing up from his throne, I'd say a crowd of crazed Jews tearing into his flesh meant Stephen had not much more time alive, which is why he lifted up his eyes to Heaven and saw Jesus.

The Holy Spirit helps us to discern the scriptures, as the Bible promises.

Why do some see no biggie for Jews stoning him, but are in 100% denial as to the cannibalism?

SteveR: I've never discussed pretrib, dispy w/ you, don't know your position, and you must have me confused with someone else (Penny?). Go review my

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News Item2/6/14 10:12 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
CAB wrote:
. You are the one who seems to have a problem separating Talmudic Judaism from what it means to be a Jew. You are speaking from emotion and have not thought your beliefs through and need to do some research on what the Judaic religion is.
One of us is manipulating facts for emotional reasons, but Im afraid that person isnt me. Cab, your unhealthy view of Jews distorts your perception of truth. I appreciate the high regard you have for the Mosaic Law, but you need to understand it without manipulating it and the NT to validate some bias that you have.
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News Item2/6/14 10:11 AM
All 5 points | aka mourner  Find all comments by All 5 points
penned said:"so dopey, this is your directive to tell unregenerate people that their inheritance is to go to the ME where they will have war and then their children will face being wiped out, but then Jesus will change their hearts?"
You told me to let him(imaginary-CAB) answer his own question. I was awake in the morning watch and thinking and searching for an answer to a question J4J asked me. After finding what I sought I thought about what I quoted above, (and far less related something CAB said) after I read Zech.13:1*,2 "In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness. And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and they shall no more be remembered: and also I will cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to pass out of the land."

Isn't verse 1 related to the waters of Nidda used to separate the proselytes from paganism to Judaism? Isn't uncleanness contracted by a lack of separation from the spiritually dead? So why would someone in Christ be here? I do not believe I can know a man's election, Do you? though in time we can somewhat grasp their doctrine.

Do you post for Evangelism? or fellowship?

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News Item2/6/14 10:06 AM
CAB  Find all comments by CAB
SteveR wrote:
It would be nice if you paid attention to your fellow posters on this board. Im neither pretrib, mid trib, nor dispensational. Im a critic of that theology. I should mention that half of the people that you call 'Calvinist' would be in danger of being kindling for a fire in 16th century Geneva. Further you even have difficulty discerning between 1st Century Judaism and contemporary Talmudism.
I'm replying straight up to the things you say here, not what you are imagining or feeling or considering, whatever. You are the one who seems to have a problem separating Talmudic Judaism from what it means to be "a Jew." You speak from emotion, have not thought your beliefs through, and need to research what the Judaic religion is.

I'm not criticizing people for DNA, but for religious beliefs that are SATANIC, OCCULTIC and PURE EVIL, hateful to the God we serve and love, and if we agree with any of this then that means we are DENYING Jesus.

Jesus said that if we deny him, he will deny us to the Father.

That means Hell. Are you willing to go to Hell to please the religious Jews? I am NOT.

Go check out Bro. Nathanael Kapner's website, www.realjewnews.com. Former orthodox Jew, now Russian Orthodox Christian monk, WHISTLEBLOWER.

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News Item2/6/14 10:01 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
CAB wrote:
Jewish calendar is 30 days, so lunar eclipses aren't rare, not significant, don't equate to "signs in the Heavens." Of course Jews will MAKE something out of it, occultics as they are, use as excuse, like their 9/11 False Flag attack on American citizens, for which they succeeded in blaming the Arabs, starting phony War on Terror and trashing the U.S. Constitution.
No way 2nd Coming in 2015. Need 3.5 year antichrist reign first. Think.
It would be nice if you paid attention to your fellow posters on this board. Im neither pretrib, mid trib, nor dispensational. Im a critic of that theology. I should mention that half of the people that you call 'Calvinist' would be in danger of being kindling for a fire in 16th century Geneva. Further you even have difficulty discerning between 1st Century Judaism and contemporary Talmudism.
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News Item2/6/14 9:57 AM
some Greek  Find all comments by some Greek
Acts 7:54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they *GNASHED* on him with their teeth.

Strongs - "Gnash"
G1031
brucho
A primary verb; to grate the teeth (in pain or rage): - gnash.

v55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,

Being full of the Holy Ghost provided Stephen with the power to see the glory of God and Jesus.

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News Item2/6/14 9:52 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
CAB wrote:
Questions:
1. Why if the Jews were only grinding their teeth in frustration over Stephen's sermon did Stephen look up and see Jesus in Heaven, standing?
2. Why if the Jews were only just annoyed and grinding their teeth in frustration did they then decide to just take Stephen out and stone him to death?
I have faith in my King James Bible. I trust it, every word. If it says that the Jews gnashed on Stephen with their teeth, then that is what happened. If you prefer a sanitized Bible to explain that away, that's your call, not mine.
Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

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Acts 8:1 And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles.

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News Item2/6/14 9:45 AM
CAB  Find all comments by CAB
DJC49 wrote:
CAB...In all my years as a Christian; for all the sermons, preaching, and teaching I've heard; for all the Bible studies I've participated in, I have NEVER heard ANYONE make the claim that Stephen (in Acts 7) was cannibalized by his Jewish persecutors!
It is what it is. Stephen preached to the Jews, who were so angry they "gnashed on him with their teeth" as KJB says (most accurate and perfect Bible ever). While they did this, Stephen looked up and saw Jesus in Heaven, STANDING UP from his throne. Then the Jews took Stephen out and stoned him to DEATH.

If the Jews were only grinding their teeth in frustration over Stephen's sermon, why did Stephen look up and see Jesus in Heaven, standing?

Why if the Jews were only grinding their teeth in frustration did they then take Stephen out and stone him to death?

I have faith in my King James Bible, trust it, every word. If it says the Jews gnashed on Stephen with their teeth, then that is what happened. If you prefer a sanitized Bible to explain that away, that's your call, not mine.

As to your claim:"you misapply Mt 24:16; Mk 13:14; and Lk 21:21. They are obviously speaking of Judea, not the USA.."

I refer only to Rev. 17-19, Jeremiah 50-51, and other OT prophecies re USA. NOT Jude

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News Item2/6/14 9:38 AM
DJC49 | Florida  Find all comments by DJC49
CAB wrote:
BTW, do you still think that the KJB is a bad translation and when it said the Jews were gnashing their teeth on Stephen causing him to lift up his eyes and see Jesus standing up from his throne looking down at him just means the Jews were grinding their teeth, not cannibalizing Stephen? They had so much control, right? So much control they then dragged Stephen out of town and stoned him to DEATH.
CAB ...

In all my years as a Christian; for all the sermons, preaching, and teaching I've heard; for all the Bible studies I've participated in, I have NEVER heard ANYONE make the claim that Stephen (in Acts 7) was cannibalized by his Jewish persecutors!

You are the first, my dear.

Only someone a bit "off" would hold to that interpretation and make that claim.

You will find YOUR interpretation of Acts 7 NOWHERE in ANY commentaries. NEVER in Church history has anyone claimed that Stephen was literally cannibalized.

YOU are the first!

CAB wrote:
Are you a gatekeeper for the Mossad?
Either way, you would believe that I am!

BTW, I wear a black patch over my left eye. What does THAT tell you.

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News Item2/6/14 9:26 AM
pennned  Find all comments by pennned
when He appears all men will see Him.

People will be struck in their hearts and will mourn.

Today is the day of salvation.

Time to get back to the Great Commission. Christ never asked us to build His Kingdom by tearing up whole regions of the world, because Armageddon is "inevitable" -- its the era of Christian Fatalism. Let the favor of God rest in whatever place in the world where believers know their New Testament.

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News Item2/6/14 9:12 AM
Dopey  Find all comments by Dopey
Please note the word "Rosh" in Ezekiel 38:2

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"it seems that Rosh then is really that land which we know as Russia...There seems to be little reason to doubt but that these tribes were the progenitors of the peoples in both Europe and Asia, who eventually were welded into the vast Russian empire."
H. A. Ironside "Ironside's Notes on Selected Books" "Ezek 38:1-23" the free module for the free Bible software program theWord

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"From the propecy in Ezekiel it is learned that there will be a great confederacy , known as the northern confederacy under the leaderhip of one who arises in the land of Magog - Russia"
J. Dwight Pentecost Things to Come pg 331

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Who wants to be first to rail on the two men I linked to?:

So when they continued asking him, he [Jesus] lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
(John 8:7)

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Ezekiel 38 and 39 prophetically refer to a coming attack of Israel by Russia and it's allies.

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News Item2/6/14 9:00 AM
penned  Find all comments by penned
Dopey wrote:
You are ready are you?
where is the secret pretrib rapture, double return of Christ?

and for that matter the scripture that proves that Jesus is not King today, where is that awful skewed teaching, when it is clear in 1 cor 15 he reigns today? That is why I can say I've been saved. My Savior-Priest-Prophet-Messiah lives.

My religion is Christ crucified and resurrected. Jews are sinners. Gentiles are sinners. We all have to repent to be grafted in. The only distinction that matters is election through the blood of Christ. And the only road is the resurrection.

Christ's teaching on tribulation in Matthew 24 is to the church. Its a term towards his beloved. Those who die in their sins and disgust for God's law have the eternal wrath of God.

If any of us have something to fear, it is not hard times on earth, but rather rejecting Christ in those hard times for filthy mammon. If there is any warning its to the unredeemed that eternal punishment is a reality as is heaven. IF there is any warning to us, its that we be a testimony to that truth in the good times and bad, not a stumbling block by making Yahweh into Mars.

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News Item2/6/14 8:51 AM
CAB  Find all comments by CAB
DJC49 wrote:
The USA is nowhere to be found in Daniel 8. To do so is a misapplication of Biblical prophesy.
Nobody disagrees that Daniel 8 is end-times prophesy. The Goat described as representing "Greece" does not mean present day Greece but rather USA who is like Greece, with same Greek gods, Greek architecture, Greco-Roman republic type govt.

The goat goes "all around the earth without touching" -- means the US military, Air Force and Navy, can go all around the earth without once touching land.

Persia, the ram spoken of in the prophecy, is of course Iran, and Israel and her paid-off American lackeys are chomping at the bit to blow up Iran. You know it.

BTW, do you still think that the KJB is a bad translation and when it said the Jews were gnashing their teeth on Stephen causing him to lift up his eyes and see Jesus standing up from his throne looking down at him just means the Jews were grinding their teeth, not cannibalizing Stephen? They had so much control, right? So much control they then dragged Stephen out of town and stoned him to DEATH.

You always accuse me of being wrong, but I have yet to be wrong, and you have yet to admit your rude disclaimers of what I say.

Are you a gatekeeper for the Mossad?

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News Item2/6/14 8:42 AM
DJC49 | Florida  Find all comments by DJC49
CAB wrote:
America has sunk to the abyss. Daniel 8 describes the USA
The USA is nowhere to be found in Daniel 8. To do so is a misapplication of Biblical prophesy.

CAB wrote:
America's day is coming, and believers are warned repeatedly to flee the country.
Again, you misapply Mt 24:16; Mk 13:14; and Lk 21:21. They are obviously speaking of Judea, not the USA.
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News Item2/6/14 1:36 AM
CAB  Find all comments by CAB
SteveR wrote:
The OT calender is lunar, when 4 feast days fall on total lunar eclipses it yields a 'tetrad'
2014 Apr. 15 Eclipse Feast of Passover
2014 Oct. 8 Eclipse Feast of Sukkot
2015 Apr. 4 Eclipse Feast of Passover
2015 Sep. 28 Eclipse Feast of Sukkot
While all are not visible in Israel, this tetrad is considered significant because of recent history. The last two times a tetrad occured were in 49/50 and 67/68; corresponding to nationhood and recovery of Jerusalem respectively. Thus dispensationalists are expecting something significant, while Jewish mystics EXPECT RETAKING THE TEMPLE MOUNT. If you consider the Resurrection link with Passover, and Pentecost with the Feast of Weeks(Shavuot), many believe 2nd Coming will be on the last of the three major feasts: Feast of Tabernacles(Sukkot)
Jewish calendar is 30 days, so lunar eclipses aren't rare, not significant, don't equate to "signs in the Heavens." Of course Jews will MAKE something out of it, occultics as they are, use as excuse, like their 9/11 False Flag attack on American citizens, for which they succeeded in blaming the Arabs, starting phony War on Terror and trashing the U.S. Constitution.

No way 2nd Coming in 2015. Need 3.5 year antichrist reign first. Think.

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News Item2/6/14 1:14 AM
GsTexas  Find all comments by GsTexas
SteveR wrote:
The OT calender is lunar, when 4 feast days fall on total lunar eclipses it yields a 'tetrad'
2014 Apr. 15 Eclipse Feast of Passover
2014 Oct. 8 Eclipse Feast of Sukkot
2015 Apr. 4 Eclipse Feast of Passover
2015 Sep. 28 Eclipse Feast of Sukkot
While all are not visible in Israel, this tetrad is considered significant because of recent history. The last two times a tetrad occured were in 49/50 and 67/68; corresponding to nationhood and recovery of Jerusalem respectively. Thus dispensationalists are expecting something significant, while Jewish mystics expect retaking the Temple Mount. If you consider the Resurrection link with Passover, and Pentecost with the Feast of Weeks(Shavuot), many believe the 2nd Coming will be on the last of the three major feasts: Feast of Tabernacles(Sukkot)
Thanks Steve, Ill have to research this.

Dopey, sorry for mistaking your comment.

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News Item2/5/14 2:49 PM
Dopey  Find all comments by Dopey
GsTexas wrote:
...
Dopey, I see no reason to accuse or imply penny of being lost for not agreeing with you on the rapture.
Neither do I GsTexas which is why I neither accused or implied penny of being lost for not agreeing with me on the rapture in 2/5/14 11:49 AM

penny's salvation doesn't hinge on what she believes about the Rapture or for that matter what penny believes about me but rather it hinges on if penny passes out of this world having repented and being born again:

I [Jesus] tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
(Luke 13:3)

Marvel not that I [Jesus] said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
(John 3:7)

And the entire comment I made in this post also applies to SteveR as well as you GsTexas and every one else on this planet.

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News Item2/5/14 2:32 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
GsTexas wrote:
What is a blood moon tetrad?
The OT calender is lunar, when 4 feast days fall on total lunar eclipses it yields a 'tetrad'
2014 Apr. 15 Eclipse Feast of Passover
2014 Oct. 8 Eclipse Feast of Sukkot
2015 Apr. 4 Eclipse Feast of Passover
2015 Sep. 28 Eclipse Feast of Sukkot

While all are not visible in Israel, this tetrad is considered significant because of recent history. The last two times a tetrad occured were in 49/50 and 67/68; corresponding to nationhood and recovery of Jerusalem respectively. Thus dispensationalists are expecting something significant, while Jewish mystics expect retaking the Temple Mount. If you consider the Resurrection link with Passover, and Pentecost with the Feast of Weeks(Shavuot), many believe the 2nd Coming will be on the last of the three major feasts: Feast of Tabernacles(Sukkot)

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