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Top psychiatrist: Meds behind school massacres

If lawmakers and authorities are truly concerned about stopping gun violence in schools, they need to take a close look at the prescription of psychotropic drugs for children and young people, says a leading psychiatrist.

In an exclusive in-person interview in New York City with WND, London-based Dr. David Healy criticized pharmaceutical companies that have made billions of dollars marketing Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors, known as SSRIs.

Psychotropic drugs “prescribed for school children cause violent behavior,” Healy stated.

The drugs are widely used in the U.S. as antidepressants by doctors working in the mental health field and increasingly by primary care doctors, he noted. ...


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News Item1/24/13 5:55 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Mike wrote:
If I may interrupt, bro? A couple points.
If the gunman knows there is a gun inside, and the dweller willing to use it in self defense, the likelihood of him entering, rather than finding easier pickings, is slim.
If he's on drugs and looking for money, he's not likely to be rational enough to say to himself, "I'm looking for money so I won't shoot this fellow because there's no point." Imo he would be more apt to shoot because he's not in his right mind to begin with.
Sure you can interject Mike - no problem.

I don't know if you've noticed, but all posts on this come down to pragmaticism rather than biblical precedents. If I was to do this on any other subject, I would soon be shot down. So what makes the difference?

What I'm looking for, especially when you consider that the first century was a most dangerous time to be a Christian, is an example of when the disciples were attacked and they fought back and took someone's life, because they did not believe God would protect them.

Also, if I went out and bought a gun and used it to protect my property, I myself would be arrested. What then?

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News Item1/23/13 9:09 PM
cause for alarm  Find all comments by cause for alarm
Y'all need to heed what the austrailans said, "dont let the govt disarm you like they did us" . Their crime rate skyrocketed, the criminals have guns, citizens dont. Y'all need to think real hard about this one. What that poster republic posted y'all better listen. He spoke a reality. Criminals with weapons kill people, mentally disorderd people kill people, law abiding citizens with firearms dont kill people. How can some of y'all call yourself a christian and lie down in submission to these tyrants who dis reguard the constitution and bill of rights, promote ungodly lifestyles, and abortion? A regime that caters to false religions? A regiem that it trying to erase God ? That dont sound christlike to me. Its abominable. We need to wake up because as it stands now, when Jesus returns , not one of us would be able to stand before Him. God bless you saints, put your battle armor on.
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News Item1/23/13 7:09 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John UK wrote:
Hi US. Just to let you know that I have no definite view on this yet, and so I am hoping for some biblical precedent or example so that I can make an informed decision, do what is right, and thereby please the Lord.
Your idea seems a good one, although it may have a bad result. If you are not deadly accurate and fast with a gun, a gunman breaking into your house may gun you down before you've even cocked, if he sees you with a weapon in your hand. But if he sees you as armless, he may not shoot because there is no point. Surrender to a burglar could be the best result, as he wants dosh for his drug habit, not taking of your life.
If I may interrupt, bro? A couple points.

If the gunman knows there is a gun inside, and the dweller willing to use it in self defense, the likelihood of him entering, rather than finding easier pickings, is slim.

If he's on drugs and looking for money, he's not likely to be rational enough to say to himself, "I'm looking for money so I won't shoot this fellow because there's no point." Imo he would be more apt to shoot because he's not in his right mind to begin with.

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News Item1/23/13 6:38 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Thanks for your response. Please forgive my ignorance, which part of the Bible are we talking about? The Bible says you shall not kill, so less killings seems to go along with that. It says live peaceably with all men, so if the presence of a gun in my home keeps the bad guy from coming in violently seems like that fulfills Scripture. There are admonitions to prepare ourselves in Proverbs, so being prepared to stop violence against my family seems reasonable. I am not saying you must own a gun, just wondering what in the Bible am I missing? Appreciate your response.
Hi US. Just to let you know that I have no definite view on this yet, and so I am hoping for some biblical precedent or example so that I can make an informed decision, do what is right, and thereby please the Lord.

Your idea seems a good one, although it may have a bad result. If you are not deadly accurate and fast with a gun, a gunman breaking into your house may gun you down before you've even cocked, if he sees you with a weapon in your hand. But if he sees you as armless, he may not shoot because there is no point. Surrender to a burglar could be the best result, as he wants dosh for his drug habit, not taking of your life.

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News Item1/23/13 6:23 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
John UK wrote:
Interesting point US. I wonder how the UK stats compare to that.
I take it we're going by stats rather than the Bible.
Thanks for your response. Please forgive my ignorance, which part of the Bible are we talking about? The Bible says you shall not kill, so less killings seems to go along with that. It says live peaceably with all men, so if the presence of a gun in my home keeps the bad guy from coming in violently seems like that fulfills Scripture. There are admonitions to prepare ourselves in Proverbs, so being prepared to stop violence against my family seems reasonable. I am not saying you must own a gun, just wondering what in the Bible am I missing? Appreciate your response.
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News Item1/23/13 6:10 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/07/the-most-pro-gun-low-crime-city-in-the-united-states/
The city of Kennesaw Georgia requires that heads of households own guns. It does not have mass murders, in fact it has had less than one handful of murders in over 30 years, and it is one the largest cities in its county and has the third largest college in Georgia. Read the article, it throws your premise on its head. Washington DC has had the toughest gun laws in the nation, until NY passed theirs, you CAN'T own a handgun in the city, it always is one of the top cities for murders in the nation, year in and year out. The state of Connecticut had the 5th toughest gun laws in the nation. The problem is NOT guns it is criminals. You outlaw guns and criminals will have them and law abiding citizens will not. Not exactly a prescription for protecting innocent lives.
Interesting point US. I wonder how the UK stats compare to that.

I take it we're going by stats rather than the Bible.

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News Item1/23/13 5:38 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
its obvious wrote:
Citizens Crime Commission of New York City
Quote;
"Mass Shooting Incidents in America (1984-2012)
Mass shootings are a unique feature of American life which have occurred consistently throughout history in every region of the country"
http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/07/the-most-pro-gun-low-crime-city-in-the-united-states/

The city of Kennesaw Georgia requires that heads of households own guns. It does not have mass murders, in fact it has had less than one handful of murders in over 30 years, and it is one the largest cities in its county and has the third largest college in Georgia. Read the article, it throws your premise on its head. Washington DC has had the toughest gun laws in the nation, until NY passed theirs, you CAN'T own a handgun in the city, it always is one of the top cities for murders in the nation, year in and year out. The state of Connecticut had the 5th toughest gun laws in the nation. The problem is NOT guns it is criminals. You outlaw guns and criminals will have them and law abiding citizens will not. Not exactly a prescription for protecting innocent lives.

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News Item1/23/13 4:29 PM
mr.b | long beach new york  Find all comments by mr.b
Thank you republic. You have said it all. God bless you brother. Take care. Signing off for good.
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News Item1/23/13 4:11 PM
Republic  Find all comments by Republic
Systematically remove a people's ability to defend themselves and eventually you can rule them with the same weapons that you took away from them.

Unfortunately you cannot remove the evil people at the same time as the "evil" guns. You are left with innocent people who cannot defend themselves or the "six year olds" from the "evil" people still there.

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News Item1/23/13 4:11 PM
Mr. B | N.Y.  Find all comments by Mr. B
Only Jesus can change a heart. No a psychiatrist, no psychic, no pill, no law , or govt. today will be my final blog . I'm tired of so called believers crying just like those who want to take away your religious freedom and civil freedoms.
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News Item1/23/13 4:08 PM
Mr. B | N.Y.  Find all comments by Mr. B
It was everyday citizens who picked up arms to be free from England. The fire arm ain't the problem , it's the person who choose to abide in darkness, instead of democratic liberal politics try getting back to the real answer to mans depravity, JESUS .
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News Item1/23/13 4:05 PM
Mr. B | N.Y.  Find all comments by Mr. B
Most people who own fire arms are law abiiding and responsible . Try taking it out on the criminals and mentally disturbed who commit these acts. If you ban guns then someone uses a car to run down a crowd , what you gonna do now? Ban the car? How bout a knife or a blunt object? Crime and murder has been here before all of us. Not everyone who has arms wants to commit crimes. You watch too much tv.
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News Item1/23/13 2:45 PM
its obvious  Find all comments by its obvious
Mike wrote:
1)And disappoint the inanimate-objects-are-evil lobby.
Citizens Crime Commission of New York City
Quote;
"Mass Shooting Incidents in America (1984-2012)
Mass shootings are a unique feature of American life which have occurred consistently throughout history in every region of the country"

As long as the inanimate objects are so accessible and readily available then the animate objects will use them in a violent and lethal way as Sandy Hook confirms.

There are two methods of gun control one bureaucractic reductions, the other remove the weapons.

Bureaucratic reductions are fragmentary at best and leave the deadly problem in society and does not protect the six year olds.

Removal of the weapons - because they are completely unnecessary to a truly 'peace' loving people, - is the obvious best way to protect kindergartens.

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News Item1/23/13 2:22 PM
TT | TN  Find all comments by TT
New Testament "sorcery" is Greek word "pharmakeia."

Revelation 9:20 "Neither repented they of their murders nor of their sorceries (pharmakeia), nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts"

Revelation 18:23 "And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries (pharmakeia) were all nations deceived."

All nations deceived by "pharmakeia."

Of course it's sin that is the problem, not drugs, necessarily; but there is a warning in here about what is sin... We want quick fixes to our problems instead of putting in the time to cultivate a relationship with our Creator. I'm not saying no one ever needs drugs; I'm saying let's not be deceived that a little pill is the answer to our ills.

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News Item1/23/13 12:38 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
kwestions wrote:
1) This should please the gun lobby!!!

2)However since SSRI's are available in other countries why then is this essentially an American epidemic?

3)Oh of course because they have gun shops on every other shopping mall and street corner.

4)But SSRI's have been around since the 60/70's so why is this a 'recent' phenomena?
---

1)And disappoint the inanimate-objects-are-evil lobby.

2)It isn't.

3)Keep repeating this rubbish. Maybe you'll come to believe it eventually.

4)It isn't. Selective memory?

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News Item1/23/13 10:56 AM
Mr. B | N.Y.  Find all comments by Mr. B
Sin is behind any massacre, please stop trying to pass the blame on anything else. Always looking for an excuse. The demonic forces will use anyone who makes themselves available. If you don't believe in evil influence , take a look around.
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News Item1/23/13 10:12 AM
kwestions  Find all comments by kwestions
This should please the gun lobby!!!

However since SSRI's are available in other countries why then is this essentially an American epidemic?

Oh of course because they have gun shops on every other shopping mall and street corner.

But SSRI's have been around since the 60/70's so why is this a 'recent' phenomena?

Or is the psychiatrist wrong???

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News Item1/23/13 10:04 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
...that's over the past 10 years, by the way.
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News Item1/23/13 8:54 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
I just hear that ADHD is up ny 25% in children...hmmm.
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News Item1/23/13 7:30 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
“When roughly nine out of every 10 cases in these school shootings and mass shootings involve these drugs being prescribed, then at least a significant proportion of these cases were either caused by the drugs or the drugs made a significant contribution to the problem,” he said.

“We are giving drugs to children who are passing through critical development stages, and as a society we are really conducting a vast experiment and no one really knows what the outcome of that will be.”

I was going to argue why there were not many more instances considering so many are being perscribed these drugs but the article answered my question.

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