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Who’s ‘godless’ now? Russia says it’s U.S.

At the height of the Cold War, it was common for American conservatives to label the officially atheist Soviet Union a “godless nation.”

More than two decades on, history has come full circle, as the Kremlin and its allies in the Russian Orthodox Church hurl the same allegation at the West.

“Many Euro-Atlantic countries have moved away from their roots, including Christian values,” Russian President Vladimir Putin said in a recent keynote speech. “Policies are being pursued that place on the same level a multi-child family and a same-sex partnership, a faith in God and a belief in Satan. This is the path to degradation.” ...


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Dopey  Find all comments by Dopey
SteveR wrote:
Well,
If those two men were alive today and actually went to Israel, they would find the Russians have already invaded. The leader today is ethnic Lithuanian and is as Hebrew as Sarah Palin who also has one Jewish grandparent. Israeli cities like Ashdod are more like Kiev than a 1st Century Hebrew enclave.
The 'Right of Return' has attracted hundreds of thousands of Russians who have no intention of becoming Jews. They came for a better lifestyle.
Dopey this cut n paste of partial chapters of Scripture into a grand theological dogma is not just theologically comical, but historically inaccurate. Not to mention it seems the only way your system works is if you are spiritually unified with Gog
SteveR,

But he [Jesus] turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
(Matthew 16:23)

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News Item2/7/14 10:42 AM
penned  Find all comments by penned
SteveR, Calvin didn't trust the French?
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News Item2/7/14 10:34 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
penned wrote:
Unprofitable Servant, Did you read the link? What do you think of Chirac's description of our leader's policy? Do you agree with it?
'Dont trust quotes from unreliable sources you find on the internet' John Calvin- 1561 Institutes pg 472
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News Item2/7/14 10:31 AM
penned  Find all comments by penned
Unprofitable Servant, Did you read the link? What do you think of Chirac's description of our leader's policy? Do you agree with it?
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News Item2/7/14 10:27 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Dopey wrote:
Who wants to be first to rail on the two men I linked to? :
Well,
If those two men were alive today and actually went to Israel, they would find the Russians have already invaded. The leader today is ethnic Lithuanian and is as Hebrew as Sarah Palin who also has one Jewish grandparent. Israeli cities like Ashdod are more like Kiev than a 1st Century Hebrew enclave.
The 'Right of Return' has attracted hundreds of thousands of Russians who have no intention of becoming Jews. They came for a better lifestyle.

Dopey this cut n paste of partial chapters of Scripture into a grand theological dogma is not just theologically comical, but historically inaccurate. Not to mention it seems the only way your system works is if you are spiritually unified with Gog

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News Item2/7/14 10:25 AM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
penned wrote:
so you got jihadists, many of whom are globalist funded on one side and the other side run by a eschatology comic book reader.
Yeah right, because of a belief in the rapture Clinton, Bush and Obama have started unjust wars with people just minding their own business in the Middle East who are just trying to survive the ungodly Jewish onslaught on their territory. This also is a motivation to fund terrorist groups who are otherwise just peaceful people who have been stirred up by Western intrusion. This, of course, is borne out by historical facts that show what a peaceful region this was until the U.S. got involved due to the influence of deluded evangelicals who take the Bible literally. Makes sense to me.

Who's reading fictional works?

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News Item2/7/14 10:11 AM
Grrr  Find all comments by Grrr
CAB wrote:
The Jews didn't cannibalize Stephen because they had planned a picnic. Rather, Stephen's sermon on Jesus drove them into an insane frenzy of murderous hate and they ripped into him like a literal pack of wolves.
They then dragged him away and stoned him to death, what was left of him. During the orgy of the Jews gnashing on him, Stephen looked up to see Jesus in Heaven. Stephen knew he had not much more time on this earth.
I have heard this is something that happens in Satanic ritual murders also, an orgy of biting and tearing the victim with the teeth.
Jesus called them children of Satan, a den of vipers. Why are you incredulous, when the Jews screamed for crucifixion of Jesus, who had never done anything but heal and love and teach Truth about God's kingdom?
Jesus warned us.
You are a very silly little girl and really need to stop posting your foolish thoughts. How you can post these up without any shame is beyond me.

Do you think that the gnashing of teeth ascribed to people who in Luke 13:28 [There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out] refers to cannibalizing?!

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News Item2/7/14 9:44 AM
CAB  Find all comments by CAB
SteveR wrote:
2 Thessalonians 2:
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

As a Christian in the sound Reformed tradition, I look at this and see confirmation of GODs complete sovereignty in justification. How do Dispensationalists, who are generally Arminian, deny Limited Atonement & the Canons of Dordt (TULIP) yet still embrace this part of Scripture in their dogma?

Because God gives people over to a reprobate heart.

God reveals himself in his Creation, there's no excuse for anybody not to believe in him. If people CHOOSE to believe a lie, "loveth and maketh a lie," lo and behold the made-up crack-pot excuse to sin will actually take hold in the mind/heart/soul and become cemented in as TRUE BELIEF.

That's why we must resist deluding ourselves or quenching our conscience or making excuses for doing evil things, because every time we do it hardens our heart and warps our mind. It's the way sin works.

Sin takes people to Hell, is not a joke, and we have a constant battle in this life against sin. If we don't overcome IT, sin will overcome US and we will indeed end up in Hell because of it

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News Item2/7/14 9:44 AM
Dopey  Find all comments by Dopey
Please note the word "Rosh" in Ezekiel 38:2

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And he took his staff in his hand, and chose him five smooth stones out of the brook...
(1 Samuel 17:40)
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Stones 1 and 2 are in this thread at: 2/6/14 9:12 AM

And now for stones 3 and 4:

"...Rosh is Russia...The prince of Rosh, means therefore, the prince or king of the Russian Empire"
Arno C. Gaebelein The Prophet Ezekeil pp. 257-258

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"... If modern lexicographers are consulted as to what nation now represents "Rosh" nearly all of them together with most expositors say Russia."
Louis Bauman Russia Events in the Light of Bible Prophecy pp. 23-25

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Who wants to be first to rail on the two men I linked to? :

Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
(Jude 1:7)

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Ezekiel 38 and 39 prophetically refer to a coming attack of Israel by Russia.

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News Item2/7/14 9:26 AM
penned  Find all comments by penned
end time delusion. how bout like this?

http://www.alternet.org/story/140221/bush%27s_shocking_biblical_prophecy_emerges%3A_god_wants_to_%22erase%22_mid-east_enemies_%22before_a_new_age_begins%22

how impossible to be dealing with a world leader that is invading whole nations based on inevitable Armageddon. (add this to the list of mystery answers to why? why?) this is the evangelical legacy. we will try to forget but the world won't. at least with Reagan the theory was based on "mutual destruction" that self preservation would eventually kick in and keep societies from destroying others, but what of this renegade philosophy that says its inevitable, therefore its ok? so you got jihadists, many of whom are globalist funded on one side and the other side run by a eschatology comic book reader.

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News Item2/7/14 8:33 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Dopey wrote:
Thanks SteveR, 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 is my choice.
2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 2 Thessalonians 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Thank You Dopey
I have a question

As a Christian in the sound Reformed tradition, I look at this and see confirmation of GODs complete sovereignty in justification. How do Dispensationalists, who are generally Arminian, deny Limited Atonement & the Canons of Dordt (TULIP) yet still embrace this part of Scripture in their dogma?

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News Item2/7/14 7:21 AM
CAB  Find all comments by CAB
DJC49 wrote:
Perhaps those Jews, who supposedly--by YOUR reackoning--chowed down on Stephen, spread some cream cheese on him for a tasty knosh? And I suppose the High Priest & Pharisees all forgot their dietary laws and decided to eat blood (forbidden in the Law). Or perhaps..some rabbi blessed Stephen as "kosher" and fit for consumption? Silly stuff this "cannibalism" assertion of yours! And YOU claim the Holy Spirit guided you into this whacko interpretation?!
The Jews didn't cannibalize Stephen because they had planned a picnic. Rather, Stephen's sermon on Jesus drove them into an insane frenzy of murderous hate and they ripped into him like a literal pack of wolves.

They then dragged him away and stoned him to death, what was left of him. During the orgy of the Jews gnashing on him, Stephen looked up to see Jesus in Heaven. Stephen knew he had not much more time on this earth.

I have heard this is something that happens in Satanic ritual murders also, an orgy of biting and tearing the victim with the teeth.

Jesus called them children of Satan, a den of vipers. Why are you incredulous, when the Jews screamed for crucifixion of Jesus, who had never done anything but heal and love and teach Truth about God's kingdom?

Jesus warned us.

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News Item2/7/14 12:53 AM
CAB  Find all comments by CAB
20 FACTS on THE BLOOD by F. Viola

Remits sins (Matt. 26:28)

Gives life to those who consume it (John 6:53)

Causes us to dwell in Christ and He in us (John 6:56)

The means by which Jesus purchased the church (Acts 20:28)

The means by which Jesus becomes our atonement through faith (Rom. 3:25)

Justifies us, saves us from wrath (Rom. 5:9)

Redeems us (Eph. 1:7; 1 Pet. 1:18-19; Rev. 5:9)

Brings those far away from God near to Him (Eph. 2:13)

Grants us forgiveness of sins (Col. 1:14)

Brings peace and reconciliation to God (Col. 1:20)

Obtains redemption for us (Heb. 9:12)

Cleanses conscience from dead works to serve the living God (Heb. 9:14)

The means to enter the most holy place with boldness (Heb. 10:19)

“The life is in the blood” (Lev. 17:11)

Sanctifies us (Heb. 13:12)

Completes us for every good work (Heb. 13:20-21)

Cleanses us from all sin (1 John 1:7)

Bears witness in the earth along w/ the Spirit and the water (1 John 5:8)

Washes us (Rev. 1:5; 7:14)

Overcomes the accuser of the brethren (Rev. 12:11)

Summary: Thank God for the “precious” blood of Christ- the “sprinkled” blood of Christ- the blood of “the new covenant”- the blood of “the eternal covenant” (1 Pet. 1:19; Heb. 12:24; Luke 22:20; Heb. 13:20)

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News Item2/7/14 12:36 AM
Dopey  Find all comments by Dopey
SteveR wrote:
Genesis 22:10 And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son. Genesis 22:11 And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I. 22:12 And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad..for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son,.22:13 And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket..offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son. 22:14 And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen. 22:15 And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time, 22:16 And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son: 22:17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies; 22:18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed
Thanks SteveR, 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 is my choice.
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News Item2/6/14 6:17 PM
NRC  Find all comments by NRC
CAB wrote:
I was born again by the website produced by Dan Corner. I truly studied his teachings and it has brought me redemption. Twist and distort is not only what I do with the Bible but also other people's words and beliefs. My soul was elevated to heights of ecstasy when I discovered all the conspiratorial teachings against the evil United States and the Jewish people.
Even though I can't remember the last time I sinned (can't afford to lose my salvation)the way of righteousness have I not known but like Balaam I try to lead people away from the right ways of the Lord. Alas, I don't ride a donkey for transportation so the only godly rebukes I get for my false doctrine is here on SermonAudio.
Thank God for brother Corner and his false doctrines, it has shown me the light.
The FIRST truthful thing you have posted since you came on this thread
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News Item2/6/14 6:04 PM
CAB | real testimony  Find all comments by CAB
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News Item2/6/14 4:41 PM
Helps | UK  Find all comments by Helps
On penal substitution CAB should read

Penal Substitution by Malcolm Watts

And

Free Grace Broadcaster on Substitution

Armed with this you might just be able to discuss the subject with a modicum of knowledge instead of waffling on a subject that is way above you.

Do yourself a favor duck, read and learn for once.

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News Item2/6/14 4:38 PM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Dopey wrote:
SteveR and Cab what do you each think is the most serious Scripture in the entire Bible?
Genesis 22:10 And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son. Genesis 22:11 And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I. 22:12 And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad..for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son,.22:13 And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket..offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son. 22:14 And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen. 22:15 And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time, 22:16 And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son: 22:17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies; 22:18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed
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News Item2/6/14 4:37 PM
Ugh ll  Find all comments by Ugh ll
Ugh wrote:
What is the prideful Godless indecorous woman doing on this board peddling her dearly held heresies?
On Eternal Security, you would do well to read:
A W Pink on Eternal Security
Amen!!!!!

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News Item2/6/14 4:23 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
CAB wrote:
You are transferring the reasoning of your penal atonement to the blood atonement, and it doesn't work.
Of course it works, as it did when the paschal lamb died in the place of the firstborn. The blood was collected and hyssop was used to strike the doorposts and lintel of the house where the firstborn was. When we talk about "the blood cleansing from sin", we are not talking about a physical "blood" which has a washing effect. We are talking about the ransom paid by Christ, a propitiation of blood sacrifice to propitiate the wrath of a holy God against sin. It is sin that is punished in Christ, as the Bible clealy teaches.

p.s. Have you ever read any of the Chick Tracts?

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