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Choice News FRIDAY, NOV 1, 2013| 120 comments| 2 commentaries
Washington Cathedral: 'Church Of Anything Goes'

At the Washington National Cathedral, Rev. Gary Hall announced last Sunday that he had discovered a sin unknown to hundreds of churchmen before him. ‘We must now have the courage to … call homophobia and heterosexism what they are,’ he said. ‘They are sins. Homophobia is a sin. Heterosexism is a sin. Shaming people for whom they love is a sin.’

“Mr. Hall, dean of Washington’s most prominent Episcopal church, criticized the role that some churches have played in oppressing young lesbians, gays, bisexual and transgendered youth. ‘It is not only just OK to be gay, straight, bisexual or transgendered,’ he said. ‘It is good to be that way, because that is the way God has made you.’”

That absolutely astounding theological and biological conjecture surely raises the question: Why has Dean Hall limited God’s (alleged) alternative sexual creationism to homosexual, bisexual and transsexual? ...


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News Item11/5/13 11:40 AM
GsTexas | Texas  Find all comments by GsTexas
John Y does it not bother you the RCC teaches a works based salvation that can save no one? That's over a billion people on this planet who believe in a damnable heresy for salvation because of the false teachings of Catholicism. Don't you think that's horrible and of Satan. A Biblical Church would not preach a lie for salvation.
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News Item11/5/13 10:42 AM
DJC49 | Florida  Find all comments by DJC49
John Yurich USA wrote:
No of course I don't respond with "Amen" when I am handed the bread and the cup of wine by the Eucharistic Minister for the reason that it would be acknowledging the Catholic doctrine that the bread and wine are the very body and blood of Jesus. I rarely receive the bread and the cup of wine from the priest. When I receive the bread and the cup of wine in the Catholic Church I pretend that it is the way that the Lutheran Church teaches about Holy Communion.
John, if you do NOT believe what one MUST believe (ESSENTIAL doctrines] to remain a Roman Catholic, then why do you persist on attending that "church?"
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News Item11/5/13 9:41 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
DJC49 wrote:
You adhere ONLY to the scriptural parts of the Mass?
Really now! ...
Tell us, John, do you take communion at the RC mass? And if you do, do you respond with "Amen" when the priest places the host in the palm of your hand and proclaims: "body of Christ?" Your "amen" acknowledges your belief that what you are taking in your hand is indeed the VERY body of Christ! Do you truly believe that? Or is your "amen" mere lip service to what you MUST believe as a Roman Catholic. MUST!
No of course I don't respond with "Amen" when I am handed the bread and the cup of wine by the Eucharistic Minister for the reason that it would be acknowledging the Catholic doctrine that the bread and wine are the very body and blood of Jesus. I rarely receive the bread and the cup of wine from the priest. When I receive the bread and the cup of wine in the Catholic Church I pretend that it is the way that the Lutheran Church teaches about Holy Communion.
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News Item11/5/13 9:24 AM
DJC49 | Florida  Find all comments by DJC49
John Yurich USA wrote:
No I am not partially scriptural but am scriptural since I trust in Jesus alone for salvation and adhere only to the scriptural Catholic doctrines and scriptural parts to the Mass.
You adhere ONLY to the scriptural parts of the Mass?

Really now! ...

Tell us, John, do you take communion at the RC mass? And if you do, do you respond with "Amen" when the priest places the host in the palm of your hand and proclaims: "body of Christ?" Your "amen" acknowledges your belief that what you are taking in your hand is indeed the VERY body of Christ! Do you truly believe that? Or is your "amen" mere lip service to what you MUST believe as a Roman Catholic. MUST!

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News Item11/5/13 9:21 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Lurker wrote:
As I said, the son of man had a mother but not the Son of God. To bestow the title of "mother of God" on Mary is to give her glory which belongs to God and is contrary to scripture.
You have a problem in semantics, or have fallen into the anabaptist heresy

Article 18: The Incarnation{ed}
...The Son took the "form of a servant" and was made in the "likeness of man,"^33 truly assuming a real human nature, with all its weaknesses, except for sin; being conceived in the womb of the blessed virgin Mary by the power of the Holy Spirit, without male participation.

..also a real human soul, in order that he might be a real human being. ..
against the heresy of the Anabaptists who deny that Christ assumed human flesh from his mother, that he "shared the very flesh and blood of children";^34 that he is "fruit of the loins of David" according to the flesh;^35 "born of the seed of David" according to the flesh;^36 "fruit of the womb of the virgin Mary";^37 "born of a woman";^38 "the seed of David";^39 "a shoot from the root of Jesse";^40 "the offspring of Judah,"^41 having descended from the Jews according to the flesh; "from the seed of Abraham"-- for he "assumed Abraham's seed" and was "made like his brothers except for sin."^42

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News Item11/5/13 8:52 AM
Anne | The Wild West  Find all comments by Anne
SF, get better! I'll be praying for you and your family!!
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News Item11/5/13 8:45 AM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
SteveR wrote:
From the Belgic Confession(edited for space)
But these two natures are so united ..not even separated by his death.
..meanwhile his divine nature remained united with his human nature even when he was lying in the grave; and his deity never ceased to be in him....
Great confession, Steve.....

Jhn 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Ecc 12:7
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Luk 23:46
And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

..... but not perfect.

As I said, the son of man had a mother but not the Son of God. To bestow the title of "mother of God" on Mary is to give her glory which belongs to God and is contrary to scripture.

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News Item11/5/13 6:29 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Lurker wrote:
The Son of God had no mother.
The son of man did.
From the Belgic Confession(edited for space)
Article 19: The Two Natures of Christ

We believe that by being thus conceived the person of the Son has been inseparably united and joined together with human nature, in such a way that there are not two Sons of God, nor two persons, but two natures united in a single person,..
His human nature ..it has a beginning of days; it is of a finite nature and retains all that belongs to a real body. And even though he, by his resurrection, gave it immortality, that nonetheless did not change the reality of his human nature; for our salvation and resurrection depend also on the reality of his body.

But these two natures are so united ..not even separated by his death.

..meanwhile his divine nature remained united with his human nature even when he was lying in the grave; and his deity never ceased to be in him, just as it was in him when he was a little child, though for a while it did not show itself as such.

These are the reasons why we confess him to be true God and true man-- true God in order to conquer death by his power, and true man that he might die for us in the weakness of his flesh.

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News Item11/5/13 5:08 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
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To all who are interested....
Is Christmas Christian
by Pastor Brian Schwertley....found here on SA.
Date:September 2003.
The religious aspect of Chrismas is Christian since the religious aspect is the celebration of the Birth of Jesus. The secular aspect of Christmas is not Christian though. It is totally superfluous if the Birth of Jesus is celebrated on 25 December eventhough He most likely was not born on 25 December. If the Birth of Jesus is mentioned in the Bible and the wise men celebrated the Birth of Jesus then celebrating the Birth of Jesus is not unscriptural. Just as the religious aspect of Easter is Christian since the religious aspect of Easter is the Resurrection of Jesus. And thus celebrating the Resurrection of Jesus on Easter Sunday is not unscriptural. Only someone who is sick and demented believes it is unscriptural to celebrate the Birth of Jesus on Christmas and believes it is unscriptural to celebrate the Resurrection of Jesus on Easter Sunday.
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News Item11/4/13 11:35 PM
Moderator Alpha  Protected NameFind all comments by Moderator Alpha
Thomas the Doubter wrote:
34 minutes ago
Carol writes:
The remarks to John Yurich from Thomas D
are totally rude and do not belong on a Christian forum.
If you are too sensitive Carol you should leave ;-)
Carol is right. See to it.
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News Item11/4/13 11:23 PM
SF from TX  Find all comments by SF from TX
Thanks Carol
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News Item11/4/13 11:00 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
SteveR wrote:
Didnt you go to Sunday School?
Matthew 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Matthew 1:22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Hbr 6:20
Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

Hbr 7:1-3
For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God... Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

The Son of God had no mother.

The son of man did.

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News Item11/4/13 10:24 PM
Carol  Find all comments by Carol
SF from TX....was reading this after prayer time and saw your post. I battle stomach bugs frequently so I will go to prayer for you and ask for quick recovery.
God Bless.
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News Item11/4/13 10:05 PM
SF from TX  Find all comments by SF from TX
Unprofitable Servant, seeing as I've been battling a stomach bug and mommies can't call in sick can we just leave this at agree to disagree? There's a part 2 by the way.
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News Item11/4/13 9:11 PM
Wondering  Find all comments by Wondering
What's your agenda TD?
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News Item11/4/13 9:09 PM
Thomas the Doubter | Ohio  Find all comments by Thomas the Doubter
Boy you are a sensitive bunch, do you get out much?
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News Item11/4/13 8:43 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
No Doubt wrote:
She's right, Tommy.
Appreciate you Thomas the doubter, but will have to say the Harvey Milk comment seemed a tad over the top, especially seeing John Y had said it was totally sick and called the man a perverted homosexual. Just my opinion for what it is worth.
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News Item11/4/13 8:19 PM
No Doubt | At All  Find all comments by No Doubt
Thomas the Doubter wrote:
34 minutes ago
Carol writes:
The remarks to John Yurich from Thomas D
are totally rude and do not belong on a Christian forum.
If you are too sensitive Carol you should leave ;-)
She's right, Tommy.
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News Item11/4/13 7:44 PM
Thomas the Doubter | Ohio  Find all comments by Thomas the Doubter
34 minutes ago
Carol writes:
The remarks to John Yurich from Thomas D
are totally rude and do not belong on a Christian forum.
If you are too sensitive Carol you should leave ;-)
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News Item11/4/13 7:30 PM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Hey SF, thanks for your patience, I listened to the sermon. I don't want to sound smug, but I know I could show this guy the fallacy of many of his arguments if I could sit down and talk with him. He makes some great points but his logic and hermeneutics are flawed.(for instance he makes a big todo about only Luke is with me, hello, Paul is imprisoned, chained between two guards, people HAD to come to him he could not go to them) He, like you, insist that the vast majority, actually he would say ALL, of the churches are dead or preaching a false gospel. Has he seen THIS website?? They have over 700,000 sermons from those "false" churches. Hebrews 10:25 speaks of the assembling of ourselves together, IN OUR DAY AND AGE that is done, for the most part, in the confines of a church building. NOBODY (even the guy he wrongfully cited) has ever said the building is the church that the Lord loved and gave Himself for, that was a pointless point. He does not address Hebrews 13:17 (he probably will say it only applies to the Jews)Ephesians 4:11-16 or the pastoral epistles of I&II Timothy and Titus. He does not address the countless one another verses that cannot be fulfilled if you isolate yourselves from other believers by having a church that consist only of your family.
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