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MONDAY, MAY 13, 2013| 61 comments
Pope Francis gives Roman Catholic church hundreds of new saints

Pope Francis on Sunday gave the Catholic church new saints, including hundreds of 15th-century martyrs who were beheaded for refusing to convert to Islam, as he led his first canonization ceremony Sunday in a packed St. Peter's Square.

The "Martyrs of Otranto" were 813 Italians who were slain in the southern Italian city in 1480 for defying demands by Turkish invaders who overran the citadel to renounce Christianity.

Their approval for sainthood was decided upon by Francis' predecessor, Benedict XVI, in a decree read at the ceremony in February where the former pontiff announced his retirement. ...


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News Item5/14/13 3:23 PM
Tragic Worship  Find all comments by Tragic Worship
Speaking of idolatry:

"The problem with much Christian worship in the contemporary world, Catholic and Protestant alike, is not that it is too entertaining but that it is not entertaining enough."

continue

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News Item5/14/13 3:00 PM
Gerime  Find all comments by Gerime
as such wrote:
A Lutheran scholar from the 1950s clarified JY's position years ago. You can hold to mere Christianity (making Jesus your personal Lord and Savior) and the sacraments of the RCC at the same time and in the same context. He identified that everything which a Christian needs to be saved is contained within the RCC. In conclusion, he found that besides a profound love of the Scriptures, Protestantism adds little else but unending arguments about justification, every verse in Scripture, music and the color of carpet in your church. That is, it would rip itself apart.
No!

Protestantism adds
Sola Scriptura
Sola Fide
Sola Gratia
Solus Christus
Soli Deo Gloria

The reason the Protestants added these is because Rome, Vatican and their followers oppose these Biblical truths.

The reason why Protestants are called 'protestant' is because of the many protests which they raised with Rome for their heretical unBiblical religious practices.

The most heinous sin is their idolatrous worship of dead people and dead bodies etc.
Protestants do not go there because it is unBiblical. But as can be seen in this article the Roman Catholics continue to fabricate more and more little gods to pray to. That is anathema to God.

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News Item5/14/13 2:53 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Read Rev 17, why not read the whole book? I would add my pastor covered the entire book-- Revelation Series 2008.

I will also thank you for letting to get a comment in about these "saints" Making "saints" is big business for the Romish Church,

wrote:
"Pope running ‘saint factory’?" asked the same site on May 2, 1999, pointing out that John Paul II had by then already "canonised" 283 "saints" since his election in 1978, almost surpassing the record of all previous Popes in the 407 years of official Vatican records. At the same time, Britain’s Daily Telegraph predicted that the present Pope would enter 2000 as "the most prolific saint-maker in history".

Churning out the "saints" on the production line also reaps in the loot for the Vatican. The "Ship of Fools" site lists some of the Pio paraphernalia which is even available online from a religious catalogue: it ranges from key-rings to "the next big must-have" – a Padre Pio electric statue which lights up and bows at your command....

from,...bleeding Statue
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News Item5/14/13 2:14 PM
read Rev. 17  Find all comments by read Rev. 17
"And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." Rev.18:4

James Durham in his commentary on Revelation states that the separation required here was the same Moses required of the people as regards Korah, Dathan and Abiram. He also compared it to the call to Come up hither in Rev. 11:12 It is a literal separation to avoid her plagues and make a clear distinction of the church in heaven which is Christ's faithful and true church in Revelation, while the church on earth is the visible apostate church. An apostate had to at one time believe the truth in order to fall from it.

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News Item5/14/13 1:34 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Well, John Y., are you going to follow Lisa's example of leaving a false church and make a Pilgrimage From Rome? However, I will now look at the article.
Augustine wrote:
I can address myself more cheerfully and more safely to my Lord Jesus Christ, than to any of the Holy spirits of God; for this we have a commandment, for the other we have none. There are many promises made to him who prays to Christ that he shall be heard; but to him who prays to saints there is not one in the whole Bible.
from, Worship Of Saints And Angels

Now, of course, many if not almost all, of the Romish "Saints" weren't Christian--many were nuttier than a fruitcake--downright crazy, right John Y? Anyway, this is a good question and answer article on Saints and Angels and Image Worship.

These people in the Italian town would have been martyrs, but they weren't saints at least in the eyes of men and most probably not in God's They weren't baptized in recognizing only Jesus nor did they refuse to attend Mass.

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News Item5/14/13 9:03 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
Lisa wrote:
John it sounds as if the holy spirit is working in you. I recall attending a wonky church before I was saved and I was actually not aware that it was wonky- it was emergent and I was really into ' my ministry' stuff at the time. I think i probably had the right doctrine over major things likebthe trinity and stuff And i thought that i knew jesus. Anyway, I knew several guys that were actually born again and they were kind of different like they were joyful and they had an inner peace. Something sort of snapped in my head and I got convicted of being irritable with people, and judgemental ( driving my car I used to seeth with rage and the holy spirit showed me that that was not fruit of the spirit). Anyways, I got convicted big time. When the conviction came it was terrible but it was not destroying, it only sort of led me to a realisation that I was not who I had thought I was.
Amen Lisa, thank you for sharing that. Its reassuring for me to read your words and know that Im not alone in my faith journey though I might not always show it

Blessings to you

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News Item5/14/13 7:53 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
John Yurich wrote:
"Oh for the love of. The Catholic Church does not believe in a multiplicity of gods. The Catholic Church does not believe that the Virgin Mary and the Saints are gods."

Maybe in theory, but not in practice, John. I can easily prove that the church has elevated Mary to a goddess in practice. I can also prove that they accept the Saints as little gods by simply pointing out that they pray to them; asking for things that only God Himself can provide. Countless Roman Catholics, at any given time, are praying to Mary and the Saints. For them to be able to hear these prayers all at once, be everywhere at once, and answer any particular prayers, they would have to possess abilities that are reserved for God alone. To me, praying to Mary or any Saint has no perceivable difference than praying to a false god, whether it be Baal, Molech, or the Muslim god, Allah. This is the reason I assign such danger to the practice and speak out against it.

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News Item5/14/13 3:24 AM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
Got cut off ! Rambling !
Anyway I wonder sometimes whether folk on this site ( not you) but other folk- could they be kind of relying in having the right doctrine to get themselves saved ? It's easy done. I even done it myself at times- but see as soon as I rely on myself I fall from grace and things go wrong. As far as I see it ( in my opinion) being saved is about having a right relationship ( relationship with Jesus) and watching that grow , just like a marriage. I worry when I look at some of the comments on here and say even the way that last guy spoke to you/ about you- that's not glorifying god and that's not suggestive of good fruit.
Keep going John - search for him and the doctrine will sort itself out . May the lord bless you. Xxxx
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News Item5/14/13 2:45 AM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
John it sounds as if the holy spirit is working in you. I recall attending a wonky church before I was saved and I was actually not aware that it was wonky- it was emergent and I was really into ' my ministry' stuff at the time. I think i probably had the right doctrine over major things likebthe trinity and stuff And i thought that i knew jesus. Anyway, I knew several guys that were actually born again and they were kind of different like they were joyful and they had an inner peace. Something sort of snapped in my head and I got convicted of being irritable with people, and judgemental ( driving my car I used to seeth with rage and the holy spirit showed me that that was not fruit of the spirit). Anyways, I got convicted big time. When the conviction came it was terrible but it was not destroying, it only sort of led me to a realisation that I was not who I had thought I was. I guess through all of that I knew that I could place no confidence in the flesh and that my praying the sinners prayer was sort of a confidence in me rather than a confidence in him and his sacrifice. I think it was at that point that I learned to trust just in his work on the cross and from then on I loved a different Jesus. And yes he's been a voyage of discovery - he reveals himself in more and more lo
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News Item5/13/13 7:36 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Lisa wrote:
John- I think there are lots of things that the Protestant and catholic church have in common ( I'm assuming that you were once in the catholic church). But ther are very important differences. I think the idea of the body of Christ being present in the mass is one of the sticking points- the Protestant church would argue that christs death on the cross was the never to be repeated sacrifice for sin and that christs words ' it is finished' would validate the fact that there is no further sacrifice to be made. As such he would then feel that his salvation rests solely upon that sacrifice and that alone. Many church denominations would add other bits and bobs onto the salvation issue, but a Protestant would be very firm in his conviction of this. Had you come to this conclusion after conviction of sin or are you more of a catholic persuasion ?
I am still attending the Catholic Church. I don't believe that the Mass is a sacrifice and I don't accept the Catholic doctrine of Holy Communion. I accept the Lutheran doctrine of Holy Communion instead. I accept the Evangelical Protestant doctrine that salvation comes only through embracing Jesus as Lord and Savior.
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News Item5/13/13 4:56 PM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
Well I would rather John speak for himself. I often have people here speaking on my behalf and i do not believe this glorifys god- every man has a right to speak his own thoughts and every man has a right to his own opinions and although we may not agree I believe that every man has a right to have his opinions respected.
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News Item5/13/13 4:33 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
as such wrote:
A Lutheran scholar from the 1950s clarified JY's position years ago. You can hold to mere Christianity (making Jesus your personal Lord and Savior) and the sacraments of the RCC at the same time and in the same context. He identified that everything which a Christian needs to be saved is contained within the RCC. In conclusion, he found that Protestantism adds nothing but unending arguments about justification, every verse in Scripture, music and the color of carpet in your church. That is, it would rip itself apart.
So says the resident member of the Chimera church under another moniker!
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News Item5/13/13 4:23 PM
as such  Find all comments by as such
Lisa wrote:
Had you come to this conclusion after conviction of sin or are you more of a catholic persuasion ?
A Lutheran scholar from the 1950s clarified JY's position years ago. You can hold to mere Christianity (making Jesus your personal Lord and Savior) and the sacraments of the RCC at the same time and in the same context. He identified that everything which a Christian needs to be saved is contained within the RCC. In conclusion, he found that besides a profound love of the Scriptures, Protestantism adds little else but unending arguments about justification, every verse in Scripture, music and the color of carpet in your church. That is, it would rip itself apart.
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News Item5/13/13 4:09 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
Lisa wrote:
.....Had you come to this conclusion after conviction of sin or are you more of a catholic persuasion ?
Conviction of sin? it's not part of his formula for getting saved. One only needs to say a quick prayer to the effect that one accepts Jesus as savior and Lord. The fact the this bears no resemblance to reality, IOW saying Lord Lord is enough to establish that he is Lord. And then we have to rationalise away the rest of the bible as irrelevant to salvation and therefore obedience to it is purely voluntary so why bother! Even reading and understanding the bible is hard work and doesn't affect one's salvation so why bother. Praying or not makes no difference to salvation so why bother etc. The cheaper the salvation ticket the better.

This man has no testimony of the Lords dealing with his soul. His sole ambition on SA is to waste everyone's time and bore everyone to tears with his one prayer that he uttered which he believes made him a Christian and the fact that he can now rest on that one act for his salvation.

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News Item5/13/13 3:48 PM
Lisa | Wales  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lisa
John- I think there are lots of things that the Protestant and catholic church have in common ( I'm assuming that you were once in the catholic church). But ther are very important differences. I think the idea of the body of Christ being present in the mass is one of the sticking points- the Protestant church would argue that christs death on the cross was the never to be repeated sacrifice for sin and that christs words ' it is finished' would validate the fact that there is no further sacrifice to be made. As such he would then feel that his salvation rests solely upon that sacrifice and that alone. Many church denominations would add other bits and bobs onto the salvation issue, but a Protestant would be very firm in his conviction of this. Had you come to this conclusion after conviction of sin or are you more of a catholic persuasion ?
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News Item5/13/13 3:33 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
North wrote:
Good old Frankie.
This'll give the pagan idolaters a lot more gods to pray too.
Another example of religion which has renounced the Bible to make up their own idolatrous practices and daft ideas.
Oh for the love of. The Catholic Church does not believe in a multiplicity of gods. The Catholic Church does not believe that the Virgin Mary and the Saints are gods. The Creed states "We believe in One God the Father Almighty. We believe in one Lord Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of God. We believe in the Holy Spirit the Lord and giver of life.
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News Item5/13/13 3:16 PM
North  Find all comments by North
Good old Frankie.

This'll give the pagan idolaters a lot more gods to pray too.

Another example of religion which has renounced the Bible to make up their own idolatrous practices and daft ideas.

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News Item5/13/13 11:30 AM
Cliff Leckey | N. Ireland  Find all comments by Cliff Leckey
America wrote:
who slaughtered thousands upon thousands of Gods true saints!!
America We will never forget that the romanist IRA went into the Gospel Hall in Darkley near the ROI border & machine gunned the Christians there. Of course all is forgotten & they now wear pinstriped suits in Stormont.
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News Item5/13/13 10:45 AM
America  Find all comments by America
Wonder if he gave a super special status to those RC murderers all down the centuries who slaughtered thousands upon thousands of Gods true saints!!
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News Item5/13/13 5:46 AM
CJW | Philippines  Find all comments by CJW
No big surprise...
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