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Choice News THURSDAY, MAR 14, 2013  |  56 comments  |  1 commentary
Pope Francis breaks another barrier as first Jesuit pontiff

Pope Francis is unique not just for being the first Latin American pope. He's also the first Jesuit pope, possibly signaling a renewed emphasis on traditional Catholic theology by the church.

The Society of Jesus, as the Jesuits are formally known, observes a vow of poverty, and as archbishop of Buenos Aires, the former Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio was known for his accessibility and simplicity, said Michael Sheeran, president-elect of the American Association of Jesuit Colleges and Universities.

The new pope has been a vocal opponent of abortion and especially of same-sex marriage, saying in 2010 that its role was to "seriously injure the family." He said the practice deprived children of "the human growth that God wanted them given by a father and a mother."

That position drew a rebuke from Argentine President Cristina Fernandez, who called Bergoglio a relic of "medieval times and the ...


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Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
John UK wrote:
Good on yer, Frank!
Pilgrim. Excellent comment. One day, they will know.

[14] Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? [15] And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? [16] And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in [them]; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. [17] Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean [thing]; and I will receive you, [18] And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. (2Cr 6:14-18 KJV)

Note: We are not only commanded to have no spiritual fellowship with unbelievers, but God states that He will not welcome us and be a Father to us if we reject His advice. Also notice the lack of gray areas in Paul’s comparisons: righteousness – lawlessness, light – darkness, Christ – Belial, “believer – unbeliever”, temple of God (our bodies) – idols. Is this not compatible with being strangers and PILGRIMS.

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News Item3/14/13 12:26 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Interesting link on Jesuits
http://www.understandthetimes.org/commentary/c97.shtml
Thanks US.

A most helpful and brief article on the Jesuits and their current methods of infiltration. Every church would do well to be teaching about these things, especially as young or hopeful believers are easy meat for anyone with a mystical message. Experience supposedly takes precedent over sound doctrine.

The charismatic, pentecostal churches are playing their part in this. It's a move toward a complete unity within christendom and beyond. And ill-informed church members know so little about this agenda and its roots.

The Roman Catholic Jesuit Order is an enemy of God.

Good on yer, Frank!

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News Item3/14/13 12:01 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Lurker wrote:
It's not what is done which condemns the pope and his followers..... it's the heart's motivation for doing it..... personal merit which is self righteousness.
While men look at the outside appearance and see a beautiful sepluchre, God looks on the inside and sees rotting flesh and dead men's bones.
Real Christians are passionate of these things as well but they confess and acknowledge........
Isa 26:12 ¶ LORD, thou wilt ordain peace for us: for thou also hast wrought all our works in us.
Phl 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of [his] good pleasure.
..... and give Him alone the glory. (another instance where the catholics hate and reject the word "alone".)
Well said fellow ember! When the US House of Representatives chose a Jesuit for their chaplain, I did a little research on them and found the following "oath". Some say it never existed; some say it did, but no longer; so who knows. But, it is interesting and matches the Jesuit history.

http://s43.beta.photobucket.com/user/tlthe5th/media/jesuits/a1jesuit_oath.jpg.html

But, your comments regarding how God sees things were very good and a blessing to me.

John UK, your posts were also excellent and others as well. Thanks!

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News Item3/14/13 11:41 AM
Unprofitable Servant | Georgia  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Interesting link on Jesuits

http://www.understandthetimes.org/commentary/c97.shtml

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News Item3/14/13 11:31 AM
Cliff Leckey | N. Ireland  Find all comments by Cliff Leckey
jpw wrote:
the whole thing looked like a pagan ritual to me.
jpw right on the button
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News Item3/14/13 11:16 AM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
issues wrote:
On same-sex marriage:

On homosexuality: blah

On abortion: blah

On contraceptives: blah

On same-sex adoption: blah.......

It's not what is done which condemns the pope and his followers..... it's the heart's motivation for doing it..... personal merit which is self righteousness.

While men look at the outside appearance and see a beautiful sepluchre, God looks on the inside and sees rotting flesh and dead men's bones.

Real Christians are passionate of these things as well but they confess and acknowledge........

Isa 26:12 ¶ LORD, thou wilt ordain peace for us: for thou also hast wrought all our works in us.

Phl 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of [his] good pleasure.

..... and give Him alone the glory. (another instance where the catholics hate and reject the word "alone".)

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News Item3/14/13 10:30 AM
jpw  Find all comments by jpw
the whole thing looked like a pagan ritual to me. not a bit surprised he's Jesuit, says it all....

there is one but one mediator, and that is Jesus Christ alone.

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News Item3/14/13 10:24 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
"The gospel" is not simply the account of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. It is an everlasting gospel, the good news that incapable sinners can be right with God through faith. From the beginning of time till the end of time, this is the only way a sinner can be saved.

Galatians 3:8 KJV
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

This is why Jesus was able to exhort men to believe the gospel before he was even crucified or the gospels written:

Mark 1:14-15 KJV
14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

"The gospel" is a message, God's message to sinful humanity. What is it?

Isaiah 45:22 KJV
22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.

John 3:14-15 KJV
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Man can only be saved by looking in one direction.

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News Item3/14/13 10:21 AM
Angela Wittman | SW IL  Contact via emailFind all comments by Angela Wittman
I was surprised at the coverage given to the election of a new pope by the local media and the lack of questioning or information about the history of the Jesuits or even why the superstitious rites such as the wearing of red shoes, etc. Shouldn't Christians be questioning these things and asking for Biblical qualification for all the pomp and superstition?
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News Item3/14/13 9:44 AM
gospel messaging  Find all comments by gospel messaging
Christianity Today

Serious Catholics Are Evangelical
True Catholicism, says George Weigel, is about boldly proclaiming the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Review by Brantly Millegan

"As someone who joined the Catholic Church during his senior year at Wheaton College after being raised in an evangelical Protestant home, my first thought about Weigel's title was that it was potentially confusing, particularly for those who use the word "evangelical" primarily to designate a particular movement among Protestant Christians originating in the First and Second Great Awakenings in England and the U.S. So right from the outset, let's specify what Weigel does not mean. "Evangelical Catholicism," he writes,

"is not a way of being Catholic that adapts certain catechetical practices and modes of worship from evangelical, fundamentalist, and Pentecostal Protestantism. Evangelical Catholicism is not the Catholicism of the future as imagined by either "progressive" Catholics or "traditionalist" Catholics... Evangelical Catholicism is not a movement within Catholicism, or a Catholic sect, or a new kind of Catholic elite. Evangelical Catholicism is not a substitute for Roman Catholicism

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News Item3/14/13 8:23 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Christopher000 wrote:
Ok, thanks John...so I guess it's an insult.
No, not an insult Christopher. The Jesuits are still active today, and have been quite successful in their mission around the world to deceive nominal Protestants. God's elect, however, have a bit more savvy, and are not fooled.

I've no doubt that Jesuits will seek to infiltrate these forums. It is all part of their war on the saints.

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News Item3/14/13 8:17 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Ok, thanks John...so I guess it's an insult.
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News Item3/14/13 8:12 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Christopher000 wrote:
John UK wrote:
"Thankfully, he no longer has the power to burn men, women and children at a stake for disbelieving the blasphemous doctrine of transubstantiation."
Well, not in the US or the UK anyway, John.
Anyway, I have a question: What is the problem with Jesuits? Periodically, when one member gets angry with another, they will call each other Jesuits. Can you explain that?
I'm sure the historicals among us will be able to answer that question in more depth, Christopher, but basically, they were the order (Society of Jesus) whose main task was to counter the Reformation, making them a very dangerous bunch indeed. Subterfuge, fifth columnists, murder, anything goes, if the Protestants can be brought down and exterminated.
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News Item3/14/13 7:57 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
John UK wrote:
"Thankfully, he no longer has the power to burn men, women and children at a stake for disbelieving the blasphemous doctrine of transubstantiation."

Well, not in the US or the UK anyway, John.

Anyway, I have a question: What is the problem with Jesuits? Periodically, when one member gets angry with another, they will call each other Jesuits. Can you explain that?

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News Item3/14/13 7:43 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
issues wrote:
On same-sex marriage: The new pope has called gay marraige “a scheme to destroy God’s plan” and “a real and dire anthropological throwback.” In 2010, he was a vocal opponent of the Argentinian government’s proposed legislation to legalize same-sex marriage.
On homosexuality: Bergoglio is reportedly “unwaveringly orthodox” on such moral issues.
On abortion: He has rallied his clergy against the “culture of death” that is the pro-abortion movement.
On contraceptives: The new pope strongly opposed Argentinian President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner‘s efforts to distribute free contraceptives, likely seeing it as part of the aforementioned “culture of death.”
On same-sex adoption: Bergoglio has called it a form of discrimination against children.
On eternal life: The new pope is no different to the old pope, he supports magic-show priests and salvation by works, and anathematises those true children of God who are saved by grace through faith alone in Christ alone. Thankfully, he no longer has the power to burn men, women and children at a stake for disbelieving the blasphemous doctrine of transubstantiation.
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News Item3/14/13 6:36 AM
issues  Find all comments by issues
On same-sex marriage: The new pope has called gay marraige “a scheme to destroy God’s plan” and “a real and dire anthropological throwback.” In 2010, he was a vocal opponent of the Argentinian government’s proposed legislation to legalize same-sex marriage.

On homosexuality: Bergoglio is reportedly “unwaveringly orthodox” on such moral issues.

On abortion: He has rallied his clergy against the “culture of death” that is the pro-abortion movement.

On contraceptives: The new pope strongly opposed Argentinian President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner‘s efforts to distribute free contraceptives, likely seeing it as part of the aforementioned “culture of death.”

On same-sex adoption: Bergoglio has called it a form of discrimination against children.

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