February has been officially designated, recognized by many and even celebrated by some as Black History Month or National African-American History Month. While it is acknowledged in some other countries (most notably Canada and the U.K.), it is primarily devoted to the achievements of African-Americans in the U.S. It will, henceforth, include the historical fact that Barack Hussein Obama became the first African-American president of the United States.
However, early American history also reveals another dramatic first involving a black American....
You know Job and his wife looked at the same event and had two different perspectives. She said curse God and die, he said the Lord gives the Lord takes away blessed be the name of the Lord. The same can hold true for the different races. A white person may look at the phrase African-American and say, hey we are all Americans, you have a problem with my country? Whereas a black person would say, hey that is my heritage,you have a problem with my culture? We all need to be aware of those differences. Also, regardless of out race or gender, we are told to "...be you kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake has forgiven you." (Eph.4:32 KJV) May God grant us grace and wisdom to fulfill His Word.
Lurker wrote: Did you ever stop to think that were it not for the slave trade, as cruel and unjust as it was, that you might be living in a grass hut in a Muslim or pagan nation in Africa right now, never having known the love of God?
What an appalling and insensitive comment.
Even if you've never suffered from race discrimination yourself and are totally ignorant of what actually took place in the slave trade, such a comment is wholly out of place.
I have suffered race discrimination in churches, so know that it is alive and well.
Lurker, why would you suppose that in the providence of God, if it had not been for the slave trade this lady might have lived in a grass hut or in a Muslim or Pagan land? God in his providence may do all sorts of things. Why would you not suppose that she may somehow have lived in a land which was comfortable and where the gospel was readily available?
To suppose that God's arm is straightened and that without slavery she would not be where she is is a perverted justification for the trade.
Even accepting that this lady has not behaved well and has been ultra sensitive, I think your comment is offensive. Try the same approach with say the Holocaust and a converted Jew and see how he/she receives it.
Lurker to sfg wrote: Goodness! Did you ever stop to think that were it not for the slave trade, as cruel and unjust as it was, that you might be living in a grass hut in a Muslim or pagan nation in Africa right now, never having known the love of God?
Mornin Lurker. Kinda reminded me of Joseph sold into slavery by the will and purpose of God, though men meant it for evil, God intended it for good.
Christopher000 wrote: As a semi new Christian, I am having a very difficult time with this. The old me wants to cut loose without predjudice, but the newe me says I shouldn't have posted what I already have, even though the old me wants to keep going with it. 1/2 feels bad, saying that no matter what, it's not right, but the other 1/2 wants to keep laying into her. I had no idea amd am still not certain of where I went wrong. You all know me, I would have had a pleasant conversation with this woman but she goes on to call me wicked and racist...two words which have been foreign to me until today. May e I shouldn't have posted those replys to her but this is all very confusing for me because two sides of me are at war right now...ug.
If you can access Stand for God's history you'll see that she was offended by a comment you made on 1/20/13 but accepted your blanket apology. She obviously made up her mind about you then, evidenced by her comment "I have read your ignorant comments over the month", and lowered the boom on you yesterday.
When the old man rears his ugly head, immediately pray God strengthen you with patience and charity to endure being wronged. If our dear sister would have done this, the whole mess would have been avoided.
Stand for God wrote: Chris000 and your gang...... You are all insensitive and racist...... you all have been making wicked comments concerning slavery...... readily blaming blacks for slavery...... writing about blacks in a negative light...... hate and ignorance......
Did you ever stop to think that were it not for the slave trade, as cruel and unjust as it was, that you might be living in a grass hut in a Muslim or pagan nation in Africa right now, never having known the love of God?
You can be angry and hyper-sensitive about the cyuelty and injustice of slavery for several hundred more years or you can find some good which came of it and praise God for it. What would God have you do?
The apostle Paul called himself the chief among sinners. That is the attitude we should all have as we engage in heated talk. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Build each other up in Christ brother and sister.
Stand for God wrote: Chris000 and your gang--it doesn't matter what you say about me and black people. You are all insensitive and racist as I stated before. I wasn't going to respond at first because I really do not have to. God is the final judge and you all have been making wicked comments concerning slavery. You all need to be fair and compassionate. Instead of readily blaming blacks for slavery, you should accept the fact that white people abused and mistreated a group of innocent people. As Christians, you all should be ready to treat all people with kindness and fairness and stop writing about blacks in a negative light. Chris 000 is guilty of this and knows I am right on this. God knows and thats all that matter. I'm through with responding to hate and ignorance. God bless.
Well, I guess nobody can say that I don't liven things up on the board once in a great while...ha-ha. Oh boy. I never have a problem with anyone correcting me, disagreeing with me, even pointing out that I shouldn't say "heck" (John/UK), etc...no problem whatsoever if I am approached correctly. When I'm not, my dark side comes out of hiding. I try to keep it very tame for the board, but that is something that I make a concious effort to work on every day. One of the things that I am consistently asking for forgiveness for is the way I react when I feel I've been wronged, offended, or disrespected for no good reason. Or, called things that I am just the opposite of...
Thanks guys, and Bro James, as well. I feel terrible about cutting loose like that but I'm a bit out of sorts right now. The old me used to handle things much differently than I am right now and that's the problem I'm having. Stand for God, US and Steve mentioned the what I posted was in fact offensive. I'm not sure what I did wrong yet, but I did not mean to offend anyone. I have had black girlfriends, black guy friends, etc. So I just don't understand the comments. I've never seen color, never once in my life used the N word, or made any type of derogatory remarks concerning blacks. I have expressed my frustrations over the rampant hate speech and those who keep the racial divide wide open, but that's about it. I still don't get it all but will keep thinking about it, or maybe someone can explain how what I said translated into me being a white racist and hater of blacks.
Thanks, US, for your comment in the other thread. As a semi new Christian, I am having a very difficult time with this. The old me wants to cut loose without predjudice, but the newe me says I shouldn't have posted what I already have, even though the old me wants to keep going with it. 1/2 feels bad, saying that no matter what, it's not right, but the other 1/2 wants to keep laying into her. I guess that according to your comment, it was offensive and I'm sincerely sorry for that...I had no idea amd am still not certain of where I went wrong. You all know me, I would have had a pleasant conversation with this woman but she goes on to call me wicked and racist...two words which have been foreign to me until today. May e I shouldn't have posted those replys to her but this is all very confusing for me because two sides of me are at war right now...ug.
Christopher000 wrote: Oh my goodness, Stand for God...I just read your commemt to me in the other thread. You are right, I am taking my sincere apology that I made to you back. I'm a wicked, hateful person? Lady, I perceive that it is YOU, who is wicked, unnaturally sensitive, reading into things, borderline sane, amd an over the top loon. I think I make my case by your irrational behavior. Your 1st comment to me in that thread sounded like it came from a Godly person...then, came the 2nd one. Yes, I threw a couple of other things in with it but never in my life has anyone called me racist so I was angry. This is your 1st time on the board and you are already callibg everyone else wicked, racist, black haters, etc. YOU, Stand for someone, need to check your own self. Thanks though for the laugh.
It's called race-baiting, Christopher. Quite common among actual racists.
Stand for God, I've calmed down a bit after my reply to you in another thread. I understand where you are coming from but please read my post to you which describes much better what I really meant by my comment. That is the comment I will stand by. Not the previous which was worded very poorly. I'm sorry that I offended you by not coming across clearly. Also, I posted a comment within the same thread referencing the forum members...sorry about that to all of you. I shouldn't expect anyone to defend my charactor when I'm probably the best one to argue on it. My apologies. The comment inferring that I was racist just really threw me because it's just not even close.
Jpw--I specifically stated that that the article was inappropriate. It was unfair. There is nothing I want from you or anyone but the TRUTH! Slavery was wicked. Suggestion: there should be an article in improving race relations. If you are seeking something that I want--that we can have articles on getting along--what God wants. So jpw, don't worry about me, worry about how your conduct should be to another person. To treat and respect all people fairly, with respect and kindness!