Barack Obama today announced a sweeping set of directives that he intends will cut down on Americans’ access to guns, setting the stage for a constitutional battle with states where lawmakers already are openly defying the latest power grab by the White House.
Tenth Amendment Center national communications director Mike Maharrey summarized the resistance to more gun control, and the resistance.
“When you’ve got people like [Sen. Dianne] Feinstein talking about major bans and Biden telling us that all they need is an executive order, you know these folks are willing to go all the way. So, it’s good to see these folks in Missouri go all the way as well, all the way in support the 2nd Amendment without any ifs, ands, or butts. The feds have absolutely zero constitutional authority to make any laws over personal firearms. Period.”
The center noted, “The Second Amendment was not created to give...
Kyle wrote: I will continue to own and carry my gun, which is my right as a human (not just an American).
Kyle, as I am unaware of the laws you have over there, could you explain to me if it is legal to own and carry a gun? If it is, does that influence your decision? And why stop at a gun? If you are confronted with thirty armed terrorists bent on murder, would you not be better off with a few grenades or a sub machine gun? Or are there laws which you obey saying you may not have these sorts of weapons? And then, if you say you have a human right (disregarding the law of the land) to own and carry a gun, why not a few grenades, rocket launchers, a bomb or two, whatever?
Protect them, the world is not "civilized", and it will never be. Anyone who says differently is selling something. The implicit arrogance pouring out off that statement is annoying.
I will continue to own and carry my gun, which is my right as a human (not just an American). Please, by all means continue to turn your nose up at me all you like. When the man wearing the orange wig enters through the emergency exit, I'll respect your objection to my being armed.
Mark Shields wrote: Martin Luther King was 39. Robert Kennedy was 42. That's -- 42 years after their being shot, 1,260,703 Americans died in firearms -- by firearms. In the total history of the United States in every war, in the Revolutionary, all the world's wars, 659,000 Americans have died in combat, twice as many in one-fifth the time.
excerpt from the transcript of the show. Oh, you can see either the YouTube or read the transcript of this segment of the News Hour. Mr. Shields is the liberal of this dynamic duo and Mr. Brooks, who I have quoted on occasion is the conservative. Anyway, interesting conversation, and the general conscientious is the Obama gun control laws won't get very far, but Obama will get an "A" for effort and the Republicans an "F" for always have no ideas and a No! answer to anything else.
Mr B..... from what I hear, the weapon supposedly used (CT) was not even an assault rifle! (think on that for a moment!) and assault rifle in itself is an odd term that I do not understand. what really is the difference between an assault knife and a kitchen utensil? its all gibberish. people are flirting with movements they do not understand, blown by the wind of fervor. look what's going on in NY. the police are upset because with the new law, they are now out-weaponized by the gangs. here I thought all these laws are supposed to make us safer. they don't. since they don't, its being done for other reasons. look at fast and furious. what of gun running? we say it isn't good. well, it isn't. its the foolishness of men to follow along in such rubbish, but I guess for some it makes them feel like they are a part of something. be part of the Kingdom of God! now that's something to rejoice in. the rain falls and dries out on the righteous and the unrighteous alike, and some may want their moment of fame and fortune, but in the end, if one's name is written in the Lamb's book of life, there is no gloating, but rejoicing, what an incredible gift.
True jpw . Very true. No gun law will ever stop a criminal from having one. Not one.the govt is banning "assault rifles ", but everyday gangbangers and felons are offing each other in record numbers using illegal handguns , not assault rifles. Btw how are they assault rifles if they are semi automatic? Regardless the law abiding citizen has to suffer because of people who choose to operate and live in darkness. We as Christians and American better wake up before all our civil rights are gone. Look at the direction of this nation is going, they are succeeding in the wussification of America. It's completely sickening .
True jpw . Very true. No gun law will ever stop a criminal from having one. Nothing. The govt is banning "assault rifles ", but everyday gangbangers and felons are offing each other in record numbers using illegal handguns , not assault rifles. Btw how are they assault rifles if they are semi automatic? Regardless the law abiding citizen has to suffer because of people who choose to operate and live in darkness. We as Christians and American better wake up before all our civil rights are gone. Look at the direction of this nation is going, they are succeeding in the wussification of America. It's completely sickening .
cities are going bankrupt, and police are sending out messages to their communities that they need to protect themselves. the timing could not be more ridiculous.
Frank wrote: John for you to say that "all" OT laws except the 10 commandments are things we can ignore is too far out for me. Now much of the OT was a shadow of things to come, but to dispensate it away is really radical.
Frank, I certainly would not say that we are to "ignore" the OT laws. However, if you apply one and make it valid today to be obeyed, you have to validate all the others. And that is something you would never wish to do. There are thousands of them, some quite bizarre, and we are no longer under law but grace, with the Spirit working in our conscience, and the Ten Commandments as a basic guideline as to God's character and our obedience.
The new creature in the new covenant is greatly different from the Jews weighed down by ceremonial and sacrificial laws.
Sorry about the change of thread, but I wanted to respond before I forgot your point.
Jim Lincoln wrote: My, my, one wonders what many of the NRA members really think, when they aren't being herded like sheep to the slaughter? NRA Gun Control Crusade Reflects Firearms Industry Financial Ties (The article is good but some of the material surrounding it--isn't. You're warned. ) Again one has to wonder if the gun manufacturers are doing the thinking using some social engineering techniques to guide people into their way of thinking?
I really need is to add to the above, since there are polls out to show what NRA members think, this article is located on a radio station in fervent gun country in Nebraska! POLL: After Newtown Shootings, Most Back Some Gun Controls. It's neutral as far as gun control is concerned. It just contains some facts that both sides are going to love or hate (different ones supposedly ), but this is the way the land lays at the moment.
protect them wrote: If you come to the Uk Mike it will probably shock you that you won't need to carry a gun around with you, we don't have a gun shop on every street and mall and don't experience with regular monotony the slaughter which America has become so inured to in recent decades. ps. Simple solution to cut down on the massacre of six year olds is take away the gun shops - you don't need them in a civilised society. pps. "massacre" ~ noun the unnecessary, indiscriminate killing of a large number of human beings or animals, as in barbarous warfare or persecution" (Dicty)
You are operating under a faulty premise. This is not a "civilised society". There are people within this society that desire to murder, maim, rape, pillage and such like. It is important therefore to possess a force equalizer to contend against such fiends. It would appear to be your passion to disarm civilized people so that they might be victimized by the uncivilized.
Mike wrote: Like that has never happened before in your land? No fallen nature there? My my, heaven on earth is it? Must be the UK churches are fulfilling their mission then? Good for you. PS we don't have gun shops in every mall, nor on every street, nor do the vast majority of people carry guns around. I have yet to meet someone who does. But don't let that reality stop your hand-wringing concern to the point that no further lop-sided exaggeration will be posted. Please continue, I'm not the only one who could use the laughs.
protect them wrote: If you come to the Uk Mike it will probably shock you that you won't need to carry a gun around with you, we don't have a gun shop on every street and mall and don't experience with regular monotony the slaughter which America has become so inured to in recent decades. ps. Simple solution to cut down on the massacre of six year olds is take away the gun shops - you don't need them in a civilised society. pps. "massacre" ~ noun the unnecessary, indiscriminate killing of a large number of human beings or animals, as in barbarous warfare or persecution" (Dicty)
Like that has never happened before in your land? No fallen nature there? My my, heaven on earth is it? Must be the UK churches are fulfilling their mission then? Good for you.
PS we don't have gun shops in every mall, nor on every street, nor do the vast majority of people carry guns around. I have yet to meet someone who does. But don't let that reality stop your hand-wringing concern to the point that no further lop-sided exaggeration will be posted. Please continue, I'm not the only one who could use the laughs.
Mike wrote: What our compassionate president didn't tell us is how many of the shootings "reportedly" were by "assault weapons," which issue is the basis for his endeavors.
If you come to the Uk Mike it will probably shock you that you won't need to carry a gun around with you, we don't have a gun shop on every street and mall and don't experience with regular monotony the slaughter which America has become so inured to in recent decades.
ps. Simple solution to cut down on the massacre of six year olds is take away the gun shops - you don't need them in a civilised society.
pps. "massacre" ~ noun the unnecessary, indiscriminate killing of a large number of human beings or animals, as in barbarous warfare or persecution" (Dicty)
protect them wrote: --- "The deaths are among the hundreds of instances of gun-related fatalities cited by President Barack Obama this week as he unveiled the most far-reaching measures to stem gun violence in decades. “In the month since 20 precious children and six brave adults were violently taken from us at Sandy Hook Elementary, more than 900 of our fellow Americans have reportedly died at the end of a gun – 900 in the past month. And every day we wait, the number will keep growing,” he said." (independent.co.uk)
What our compassionate president didn't tell us is how many of the shootings "reportedly" were by "assault weapons," which issue is the basis for his endeavors.
Again, Connecticut had the 5th strictest gun laws in the country and already had an assault weapon ban. Criminals DON'T CARE what the law states, that is why we call them criminals. Gun laws take guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens. These type of shootings inevitably take place in gun free zones where there is no danger to the shooter. They had an incident in Texas shortly after the shootings in Connecticut where a shooter was killed by a person who had a concealed weapon permit, no telling how many lives it saved. The major news networks did not bother to carry the story. There has not been a murder in Kennesaw GA where guns have been mandated for all residents since the law took effect 25 years ago.(kinda blows away--no pun intended-- the premise of the independent.co.uk article) We already tried a ban on assault weapons, and there was no decline in crimes committed with assault weapons. Isn't trying the same thing over and expecting a different result called insanity? The right to bear arms was to protect and preserve a right the colonist already possessed not a granting of a privilege they did not have.
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