Christmas Under Intense Attack This Holiday Season
The holiday season is here again, and with it has come the predictable attacks on Nativity scenes, Christmas trees — and Charlie Brown? That's right, Merry Christmas, Charlie Brown, the theatrical adaptation of a Peanuts holiday cartoon children and families have enjoyed for years, is under attack from an atheist group that caught wind that an elementary school in Little Rock, Arkansas, was going to take some of its students to see the play at a local church.
According to the Christian Post, teachers at Little Rock's Terry Elementary School sent a letter home duly warning parents that the play at nearby Agape Church might “expose your child to Christianity,” so “if you prefer your child to not attend the program they may stay at school.”
While the musical's storyline, which finds Peanuts mainstay Charlie Brown in search of the true meaning of Christmas, can hardly be termed an overt promotion of...
Send children to government schools and they will be taught the religion of the government...No surprise there! Question is, why do "christians" send children to government schools?
John Yurich USA wrote: Who knows why most Christians didn't stick with the Julian Calendar? Most Eastern Orthodox Churches have retained the Julian Calendar.
Today's Julian date: 2456265.5
Julian dates (abbreviated JD) are simply a continuous count of days and fractions since noon Universal Time on January 1, 4713 BCE (on the Julian calendar). Almost 2.5 million days have transpired since this date.
Christopher000 wrote: ... Everytime we mention the day of the week, we make a pagan reference, ..., when we watch the olympics...well, you get the idea. I just think a holiday such as Christmas, although it is of Pagan origin, should just be about the birth of Christ for Christians.... I think everyone who seems against it probably still takes the day off and celebrates it. : )
When mentioning the days of the week, particularly to Bible believers, why not call them the second day, third day etc. like the Lord does?
I do not see how it is proper for Christians to watch pagan Olympics with naked athletes. Don't watch 'em, problem solved.
I am against this unholy day, I am given the day off from my employment and I'll spend it as a family day but I will not have Christ Mass tree, a yule log, mistletoe, candy canes, etc. etc. In short I will not celebrate the day in the fashion that the world does. Of all the changes I have made in my life as a believer, this is the one I have received the most persecution for. I believe this to be the case as folks have turned that Christ Mass tree into a God and they sing hymns to it. Likewise, they have turned Satan Claus into a God. By rejecting these gods, it gets folks stirred up.
I understand where John Y is coming from, and everyone else as well. The way I see it is that, as Christians, we should make the holidays what they should be about instead of what the world has turned them into, irregardless or their origins. Kind of like it being ok to eat the meat that was sacrificed to idols...I forget who that was. Anyway, the US is a mish-mosh of borrowed cultures and something dark can be found in many holidays, archetecture, celebrations, etc, etc. Everytime we mention the day of the week, we make a pagan reference, when we mention the name of a planet, we are referencing a Greek God, when we watch the olympics...well, you get the idea. I just think a holiday such as Christmas, although it is of Pagan origin, should just be about the birth of Christ for Christians since the holiday really can't be avoided. I think everyone who seems against it probably still takes the day off and celebrates it. : )
shun antichrist wrote: The Gregorian Calendar was introduced by Pope Gregory XIII, after whom the calendar was named, by a decree signed on 24 February 1582. Why didn't Christians stick with their existing Julian Calendar?
Who knows why most Christians didn't stick with the Julian Calendar? Most Eastern Orthodox Churches have retained the Julian Calendar.
The Gregorian Calendar was introduced by Pope Gregory XIII, after whom the calendar was named, by a decree signed on 24 February 1582. Why didn't Christians stick with their existing Julian Calendar?
Also, since Jesus was really born 7-2 BC/BCE, why don't Christians adjust their calendar to start at his actual birth year rather than following the Pied Piper's erroneous calendar for 400 years?
Daniel B wrote: John then why not celebrate it on another day. Why do people celebrate it on a pagan holiday. If the Bible is the final authority in all matters of faith and practice then why do people put more effort and make a big deal of Christmas than they do about Christs death, burial, and resurrection. The importance is with that. We are actually told to remember that not his birth. Christ birth doesn't safe us but the shedding of his blood does.
Christ's Death, Burial, and Resurrection is celebrated every Sunday in churches that worship Jesus as God. The Protestant Reformers didn't have a problem with retaining the celebration of the Birth of the Lord Jesus in their churches. And every one of the Protestant Reformers were Born Again according to their testimony. So the Holy Spirit was guiding every Protestant Reformer to retain the celebration of the Birth of the Lord Jesus in their churches. Every Evangelical Protestant minister I have heard preach about celebrating the Birth of the Lord Jesus has stated that it is not in violation of Holy Scripture to celebrate the Birth of the Lord Jesus on 25 December if it is done by reading of the Gospel accounts of the Birth of the Lord Jesus.
John then why not celebrate it on another day. Why do people celebrate it on a pagan holiday. If the Bible is the final authority in all matters of faith and practice then why do people put more effort and make a big deal of Christmas than they do about Christs death, burial, and resurrection. The importance is with that. We are actually told to remember that not his birth. Christ birth doesn't safe us but the shedding of his blood does.
Only in the secular sense is it a pagan holiday. In the spiritual sense of celebrating the Birth of Our Lord Jesus Christ it is not a pagan holiday. It is wrong to ignore the Birth of Our Lord Jesus Christ considering what He accomplished for us on the Cross. How stupid can anybody be to state that celebrating the Birth of Our Lord Jesus Christ is pagan and thus of the devil? That borders on blasphemy.
John Yurich USA wrote: nothing unscriptural about celebrating the Birth of Our Lord
"Now, I have one more lesson for you, and I have done. That lesson is PRECEPTIVE. I wish everybody that keeps Christmas this year, would keep it as the angels kept it. There are many persons who, when they talk about keeping Christmas, mean by that the cutting of the bands of their religion for one day in the year, as if Christ were the Lord of misrule, as if the birth of Christ should be celebrated like the orgies of Bacchus. There are some very religious people, that on Christmas would never forget to go to church in the morning; they believe Christmas to be nearly as holy as Sunday, for they reverence the tradition of the elders. Yet their way of spending the rest of the day is very remarkable; for if they see their way straight up stairs to their bed at night, it must be by accident. They would not consider they had kept Christmas in a proper manner, if they did not verge on gluttony and drunkenness. They are many who think Christmas cannot possibly be kept, except there be a great shout of merriment and mirth in the house, and added to that the boisterousness of sin." (C.H.Spurgeon) http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/0168.htm
The poster formerly known as Russ wrote: Let them have Christmas. This is a fight that the church needs to let die. Christmas is a left over remnant of Catholicism's syncretistic tendencies and was shunned by our Puritan ancestors.
There is nothing unscriptural about celebrating the Birth of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. If it was then the Protestant Reformers like Luther would not have retained the celebration of the Birth of Our Lord Jesus in their churches.
Daniel B., It is totally superfluous if Jesus was not born on 25 December. And if it is so unscriptural to celebrate the Birth of the Lord Jesus then the Protestant Reformers would not have retained the celebration in their churches. But they did retain the celebration of the Birth of the Lord Jesus in their churches. Normal Protestants don't have a problem celebrating the Birth of the Lord Jesus, only abnormal Protestants have a problem with it. To ignore the Birth of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is wrong considering what He accomplished for us on the Cross.
It is something that really needs to be recorded. Charlie Brown specials are great nap inducers for me, so you can restart it at the various places you fall asleep and go on from there until you fall asleep again.
No, Gil, has somewhat the same sermon for Christmas and Easter, though he will give a shortened Easter service on Christmas. He emphasizes the important idea of Christ coming.
John 11 49 But a certain one of them, Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, said to them, "You know nothing at all, 50 nor do you take into account that it is expedient for you that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation should not perish." 51 Now this he did not say on his own initiative; but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus was going to die for the nation, 52 and not for the nation only, but that He might also gather together into one the children of God who are scattered abroad.---NASB
It only takes attendance at any ChristMass celebration, and a little observation, to know that there is a spirit abroad at such events. And I do not believe it is the Holy Spirit.
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