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End-Times Christian Movie Series ‘Left Behind’ Set for Hollywood Reboot
While the “Left Behind” series is getting a major face-lift, the team behind the older films is, at least to a degree, intact. Writer, producer and Cloud Ten Pictures founder Paul Lalonde worked on the original series and he’s once again leading the latest effort. Script consultant John Patus, one of the many individuals who worked on “Left Behind: World at War,” the third movie in the series, is also involved in the new project.

While the reboot will follow what the Hollywood Reporter calls “a classic disaster film” format, the essential tenets of end-times theology will still be present. In fact, the film will remain Christian at its core, with the plot, once again, focusing on the survivors living in the hours after the Biblical Rapture. ...


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News Item10/24/12 11:54 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
Frank wrote:
That figures, I was ready to argue against preterism or pre-trib, but post/Mill? Now even though as we both know, the one who poses the questions has an advantage, I will still argue my position using your questions, or at least try to. But first a couple of questions so I can understand your position since there are usually nuances to everthing.

1) When does your 1,000 year Millennium begin? Does it occur in the future or is it already past? Or is it an unknown beginning?

2) By second resurrection, I assume you are saying there will be two totally seperate resurrections?

1) Already past.

2) Of course. The first resurrection is spoken of explicitly in the Revelation and the second is implied. The first is an ongoing (through the duration of the acceptable year of the Lord aka the age of grace) resurrection (quickening) of souls (Rev 20:4) while the second is the resurrection of the purchased possession; to wit; the body to immortality and incorruptability.

Your turn.

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News Item10/24/12 11:42 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Lurker wrote:
Frank,
Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded, ... **and he shall reign for ever and ever.**
Not a mere 1,000 years.
Unless you can justify a 1,007 year gap between 1 Thes 4:17 and 1Cr 15:54, think on a post-mill/trib second resurrection (rapture) which scripture teaches.
That figures, I was ready to argue against preterism or pre-trib, but post/Mill? Now even though as we both know, the one who poses the questions has an advantage, I will still argue my position using your questions, or at least try to. But first a couple of questions so I can understand your position since there are usually nuances to everthing.

When does your 1,000 year Millennium begin? Does it occur in the future or is it already past? Or is it an unknown beginning?

By second resurrection, I assume you are saying there will be two totally seperate resurrections?

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News Item10/24/12 10:10 PM
Lurker  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
Frank wrote:
Scripture teaches a post-tribulation, pre-Millennial rapture. I'm not sure if that issue has been discussed? Now my guess is you or John or both of you will disagree with that.
Frank,

Good guess!

By rapture I assume you mean...

1 Thes 4:17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God.

Which trump?

1Cr 15:52 ... at the last trump.

Now to the only place in scripture with a multiple of trumpet sounds:

Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

What mystery will be finished?

Isa 25:7 And he will destroy in this mountain the face of the covering cast over all people, and the vail that is spread over all nations. He will swallow up death in victory.

1Cr 15:54 ... Death is swallowed up in victory (at the last trump, 1 Cor 15:52).

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded, ... **and he shall reign for ever and ever.**

Not a mere 1,000 years.

Unless you can justify a 1,007 year gap between 1 Thes 4:17 and 1Cr 15:54, think on a post-mill/trib second resurrection (rapture) which scripture teaches.

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News Item10/24/12 3:36 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Phoebe wrote:
Sorry I don't see what your point is.
Are you saying Liberty and free-speech are inseperable?
Basically, yes. What liberty do those in dictatorships have to say negative things about their leaders? Dictators, like false prophets and false teachers, hate liberty, for they want no one speaking out against them. They want to do all the talking themselves, to keep the ruled in bondage.

2 Peter 2:18,19
"For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage."

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News Item10/24/12 3:06 PM
Phoebe  Find all comments by Phoebe
Mike wrote:
But it does promote liberty, which hardly excludes speech.
Sorry I don't see what your point is.
Are you saying Liberty and free-speech are inseperable?
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News Item10/24/12 2:43 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Phoebe wrote:
Thought that was an American concept myself. Still I think other people in your glorious Christian nation have noticed that the Church DOESNT promote free speech.
But it does promote liberty, which hardly excludes speech.
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News Item10/24/12 12:43 PM
Phoebe  Find all comments by Phoebe
Frank wrote:
I tend to agree with you. Oh no that proves the case that we team up against others. I have had exchanges with Barry before and they were always pleasant, so either he misunderstood or he is being less amiable than before. Or it is not really him? He of course would know that I didn't say changing monikers was illegal to SA, but I merely implied that I personally don't like the idea. It would seem the poster has a right to their personal viewpoint regarding monikers, but others don't? And, if I'm not mistaken the only poster that I am "aware" of that is a new Christian is Christopher and he appears to be quite comfortable with us.
I never read the KJ bible, so that was aimed at you.
One thing is for sure; neither poster going by Barry and Phoebe will ever be accused of as having a silly sense of humor.
Anyway, there will be a rapture and it will be post-tribulational. You don't have to believe in it to experience it!
If the Lord tarries, up we both go!
Oh, as is my usual practice; once a poster gets too nasty, I don't respond to them
Liars twist other peoples words. I wasn't being personal, just merely implying some people twist other peoples words and then make a joke of it.
God SEES.
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News Item10/24/12 12:31 PM
Phoebe2  Find all comments by Phoebe2
For what it's worth, I agree with me.
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News Item10/24/12 12:31 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
codulater wrote:
My goodness John what a ruckus you've caused on this thread.
Free speech?? Definitely Arminian.
Aye, and some people like Auntie Bertha won't let me reply to her posts coz her mum don't like it.

Free speech - it's an illusion.

Frank wrote:
Anyway, there will be a rapture and it will be post-tribulational. You don't have to believe in it to experience it!
If the Lord tarries, up we both go!
If that's the way of it, sure. But I don't think it is right. However, I am not sure I could set up an argument against it, so I won't attempt it. Sorry bro.

Frank wrote:
I never read the KJ bible, so that was aimed at you.
Barry said that it was wrong to read the KJB? Surely not.

Besides, I'm not a KJV-Onlyist.

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News Item10/24/12 12:30 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
John UK wrote:
I wonder if that was really Barry's post.
It could have been Phoebe in disguise, posting as Barry.
Free speech can soon turn into deception.
I tend to agree with you. Oh no that proves the case that we team up against others. I have had exchanges with Barry before and they were always pleasant, so either he misunderstood or he is being less amiable than before. Or it is not really him? He of course would know that I didn't say changing monikers was illegal to SA, but I merely implied that I personally don't like the idea. It would seem the poster has a right to their personal viewpoint regarding monikers, but others don't? And, if I'm not mistaken the only poster that I am "aware" of that is a new Christian is Christopher and he appears to be quite comfortable with us.

I never read the KJ bible, so that was aimed at you.

One thing is for sure; neither poster going by Barry and Phoebe will ever be accused of as having a silly sense of humor.
Anyway, there will be a rapture and it will be post-tribulational. You don't have to believe in it to experience it!
If the Lord tarries, up we both go!

Oh, as is my usual practice; once a poster gets too nasty, I don't respond to them

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News Item10/24/12 12:20 PM
Phoebe  Find all comments by Phoebe
codulater wrote:
My goodness John what a ruckus you've caused on this thread.
Free speech?? Definitely Arminian.
Thought that was an American concept myself. Still I think other people in your glorious Christian nation have noticed that the Church DOESNT promote free speech.
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News Item10/24/12 12:18 PM
codulater  Find all comments by codulater
John UK wrote:
Free speech can soon turn into deception.
My goodness John what a ruckus you've caused on this thread.

Free speech?? Definitely Arminian.

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News Item10/24/12 12:09 PM
Phoebe  Find all comments by Phoebe
John UK wrote:
I wonder if that was really Barry's post.
It could have been Phoebe in disguise, posting as Barry. I much prefer it when folks stick to their moniker, so as you know who's who.
Free speech can soon turn into deception.
Barry - the whole of the Christian Church is in trouble because of people like this in it - and the rest of the people - if there are any - remain silent. Got to be nice eh?
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News Item10/24/12 12:05 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
I wonder if that was really Barry's post.

It could have been Phoebe in disguise, posting as Barry. I much prefer it when folks stick to their moniker, so as you know who's who.

Free speech can soon turn into deception.

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News Item10/24/12 12:02 PM
Phoebe  Find all comments by Phoebe
Then of course you can just ignore 90% of others posts while being extra careful to notice a little detail not quite in place.
When an arguement doesn't make you look good you just chose something in anothers post to focus on even when the post isn't about - and obviously isn't about - what you are claiming it is about. And you won't be detered. But you all come together when the need arises.
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News Item10/24/12 12:00 PM
Barry from KY | Northern KY  Find all comments by Barry from KY
Someone else comes along, poses a different view to you (3?) and then you all turn on that person. If that person actually shows any of you up, the rest of you chime in - thus people coming here pretty soon discover the trap you set them. Then you can always start the 'humour' - mocking - and all join together in your humour.
By the way Frank - there isn't a law against putting whatever name you like whenever you like on this site - take it up with the site moderators. Maybe you find it a moral issue that you can have more than one 'moniker'. Free speech Frank.[/QUOTE]I agree Phoebe, and if some don't disagree with you they twist your words until they make you say something your really not. I personally think SA needs to have a warning label that says, "Caution, may be hazardous to a new Christians walk". If I had logged onto SA and was a new Christian I would leave really confused. Another thing, I have said this before, there are many "pious" people on here that will have you reading the KJV only bible in cave by candle light while they set in Starbucks and pat themselves on the back for being so religous. Don't let them scare you off. The internet makes everyone brave!!!
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News Item10/24/12 11:56 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
1. Now regarding the left behind series. Scripture teaches a post-tribulation, pre-Millennial rapture. I'm not sure if that issue has been discussed? Now my guess is you or John or both of you will disagree with that.
2. Anyway, Lurker, thanks for the clarification and the scriptures!
3. John, what a thoroughly British discription of those who "read" these news articles.
Hello Frank

You've come up with some tricky ones today, for sure. But I'll have a go. Let me be first to cast a font.

1. I've not yet been convinced by scripture of any sort of rapture; however, if it be true, I sure won't object to being hoisted aloft when the time comes.

2. Correct!

3. British sense of humour.

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News Item10/24/12 11:49 AM
Phoebe  Find all comments by Phoebe
Frank wrote:
Yes, Christopher, there is nothing wrong with a little humor among brothers in Christ. When John and I say something humorous that was not intended to be taking literally, 99 percent of the readers would instantly understand what we are going. But, remember I said 99 percent, not 100.
But, as you know, he and I are as serious in our thoughts as anyone.
Now being serious never made anyone correct, but it is a good start and on a right path.
Frank - there aint no law against putting whatever you like in the name bar.
There is something wrong with your silly humour amongst yourselves. The problem is that you begin by chosing an agrument amongst yourselves. Someone else comes along, poses a different view to you (3?) and then you all turn on that person. If that person actually shows any of you up, the rest of you chime in - thus people coming here pretty soon discover the trap you set them. Then you can always start the 'humour' - mocking - and all join together in your humour.
By the way Frank - there isn't a law against putting whatever name you like whenever you like on this site - take it up with the site moderators. Maybe you find it a moral issue that you can have more than one 'moniker'. Free speech Frank.
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News Item10/24/12 11:38 AM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Lurker wrote:
Frank and John,

Revelation 7:9-17 pictures a great multitude of Gentile converts standing before the throne of grace in addition to the tribes of Israel.

Now regarding the left behind series. Scripture teaches a post-tribulation, pre-Millennial rapture. I'm not sure if that issue has been discussed? Now my guess is you or John or both of you will disagree with that.

Anyway, Lurker, thanks for the clarification and the scriptures!

John, what a thoroughly British discription of those who "read" these news articles.

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News Item10/24/12 10:51 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Mike wrote:
Yawn. Jesus with a sense of humor? To some even the thought would be heresy.
Or even arminist.

Steve R
Too kind bro, and quite undeserved. But thanks anyway.

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