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WEDNESDAY, JUL 9, 2008  |  51 comments
Who Was More Important: Lincoln or Darwin?
How's this for a coincidence? Charles Darwin and Abraham Lincoln were born in the same year, on the same day: Feb. 12, 1809. As historical facts go, it amounts to little more than a footnote. Still, while it's just a coincidence, it's a coincidence that's guaranteed to make you do a double take the first time you run across it. Everybody knows Darwin and Lincoln were near-mythic figures in the 19th century. But who ever thinks of them in tandem? Who puts the theory of evolution and the Civil War in the same sentence? Why would you, unless you're writing your dissertation on epochal events in the 19th century? But instinctively, we want to say that they belong together. It's not just because they were both great men, and not because they happen to be exact coevals. Rather, it's because the scientist and the politician each touched off a revolution that changed the world. ...

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curious  Find all comments by curious
Neil wrote:
So it really was about freedom - to enslave others, that is. BTW, Frederick Douglass mentioned that his "Christian" masters were the most cruel and brutal.
Thanks Neil, I had always thought that the reason for the southern states seceding from the United States was on the issue of slavery.
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News Item7/9/08 5:02 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
curious, Alexander Stephens said it better than anyone. From his 1861 "Cornerstone" speech:
"Our new [Confederate] government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea [to Jefferson's]; its foundations are laid, its corner–stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery — subordination to the superior race — is his natural and normal condition."
Oh, and Darwinism fits this pretty well.

So it really was about freedom - to enslave others, that is. But postwar Southern "Lost Cause" writers like Stephens played this down after the War & spun it as about States' Rights etc. Sounds more noble, doesn't it?

BTW, Frederick Douglass mentioned that his "Christian" masters were the most cruel and brutal.

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News Item7/9/08 5:00 PM
curious  Find all comments by curious
ENGINEER wrote:
The South wanted out for many of the same reasons (liberty,freedom) that the American Colonies wanted out of union with Britain in 1776.
Northerners celebrate the Revolutionary war, and rarely think of the irony that the North was similar to Great Britain in the 1860 Civil War and the south in the place of the colonies.
Of course, in God's Sovereignty, sometimes an Assyria or Rome is used to punish a nation, and NO nation is without its national sins, so the North can easily make a case of southern sins.
Complaining about it now is just whistling Dixie...
Thank you for answering my question Engineer.
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News Item7/9/08 4:54 PM
ENGINEER | USA  Find all comments by ENGINEER
curious wrote:
why the Southern states wanted to secede from the United states?
The South wanted out for many of the same reasons (liberty,freedom) that the American Colonies wanted out of union with Britain in 1776.

Northerners celebrate the Revolutionary war, and rarely think of the irony that the North was similar to Great Britain in the 1860 Civil War and the south in the place of the colonies.

Of course, in God's Sovereignty, sometimes an Assyria or Rome is used to punish a nation, and NO nation is without its national sins, so the North can easily make a case of southern sins.

Complaining about it now is just whistling Dixie...

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News Item7/9/08 4:31 PM
curious  Find all comments by curious
I am not an American but I would like to know why the Southern states wanted to secede from the United states?
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News Item7/9/08 4:24 PM
Bill Grimes  Find all comments by Bill Grimes
Check your facts, Jim Lincoln. President Davis wasn't anywhere close to being a Catholic.
As for Abe, he committed no less than 10 Constitutional violations in his prosecution of an illegal war against the Southern states.
That's the reason the Federal gvernment decided not to try President Davis for treason.
The Johnson administration did not want the truth about secession to come out.
We have Lincoln to thank for the establishment of an all powerful Federal government.
We have Darwin to thank for foisting on the human race a godless philosophy that has led to the deaths of thousands.
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News Item7/9/08 2:02 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, I'm not! and having an ancestor who fought with the Grand Army of the Republic, naturally Lincoln was more important. Three hurrahs for old Abe!

If you want bad mouth someone make it, Jefferson Davis, an almost Catholic. I would also point out, it wasn't the Union that attacked Fort Sumter.

But, I really don't want to fight the (un)Civil War all over again.

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News Item7/9/08 1:21 PM
curious  Find all comments by curious
Are you all from the southern part of the U.S? Is that why you hate Lincoln?
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CMT  Find all comments by CMT
Darwin and Lincoln were both devils.
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News Item7/9/08 11:56 AM
kenny  Find all comments by kenny
Great men?

Lincoln just declared war on his own country.

Darwin declared war on God.

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ENGINEER | USA  Find all comments by ENGINEER
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