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MONDAY, FEB 3, 2014  |  47 comments
When is a church a cult?
Andy and Patty Grove never planned to settle outside of Texas. Their roots in the state reach back many generations. Patty’s ancestors came to Texas on a wagon train from Tennessee in the 1830’s (an elementary school in Houston is named for her great-grandfather); Andy’s father owned a tract of land that is now part of the posh Houston neighborhood of Hedwig Village. The two grew up a mere five miles away from each other in West Houston, where they attended Stratford and Memorial, rival high schools in Spring Branch ISD. They met while volunteering with Campus Crusade for Christ as undergraduates at the University of Houston in the late seventies. After marrying, in 1982, they settled in Arlington, where Andy took a job as the campus director of the University of Texas at Arlington’s branch of International Students, a Christian organization that works with foreign-exchange students. In the early ...

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Prophet John Beechy  Find all comments by Prophet John Beechy
Oh, ok. So God has given us all those who call themselves pastors today? Along with those who call themselves prophets and apostles too?

[a believer who is part of the brethren]

Guess it applies to wrote:
Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, PASTORS and teachers;
Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
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News Item2/4/14 9:30 AM
penned  Find all comments by penned
Thomas the Doubter, that's great!
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News Item2/4/14 9:23 AM
SteveR  Find all comments by SteveR
JSC wrote:
Moderator
..innappropriate for this site?
John Yurick has continued to make statements that are antithetical and contrary to the position this site holds.
Ironic request on a thread about 'cults.'

Isolation is a prime characteristic of cults..From LURs site edited for space

"Information control is practiced where members of the group are not allowed or discouraged to have contact with outside family members, other ministries or Christians that could influence them. This is done to prevent information that may expose what is going on internally. They cut off or denigrating outside sources of information, especially if it is critical of the group. One is not allowed to read or converse with those who say these things or was once part of the group and left for whatever circumstances. Ties are severed with former friends and family and the circle becomes tighter as the only people you are exposed are them. .. Anyone who challenges the cult's doctrine is automatically branded as an enemy which is usually anyone who disagrees. The cultists feel that they are being persecuted unfairly. On the other hand, true Christians accept persecution, knowing that it tests the genuineness of their faith. "

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News Item2/4/14 7:11 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
John Yurich USA wrote:
Of course when the Catholic Church was engaging in homicidal activity that had nothing to do with worshipping Jesus. But the Catholic Church was worshipping Jesus during the Mass when the Inquisition was going on...

Oh boy, John. Well, I would agree that the church of Rome isn't a cult, but rather, a false religion which has been proven over and over. I once told you that you are not really Roman Catholic and you disagreed. I now fully agree that you indeed are. I know you think everyone here is nuts because your Baptist brother and Pentecostal nephew and neice in law who reside in Tulare California, USA say we are but your logic and views are so flawed, John. You have spent your life listening to those who make you feel good spiritually, and personally instead of investigating those things that are presented to you using the bible alone. God made you shy so there's nothing wrong with completely disregarding His Word if it might interfere with your comfort level. I admire your certainty along with your faith in Luther, and family members who can't be wrong.

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News Item2/4/14 6:03 AM
Stupid is a stupid does  Find all comments by Stupid is a stupid does
John Yurich USA wrote:
Just who do you think you are anyway insulting my brother and Nephew and Niece In-Law? They are better Christians then you and a lot of other individuals on here.
Still don't give a dime!
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News Item2/4/14 5:02 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Stupid is a stupid does wrote:
Who gives a dime what your "born again" brother or nephew or niece in law or their churches say?
Just who do you think you are anyway insulting my brother and Nephew and Niece In-Law? They are better Christians then you and a lot of other individuals on here.
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News Item2/4/14 4:51 AM
Stupid is a stupid does  Find all comments by Stupid is a stupid does
John Yurich USA wrote:
My Born Again Non Denominational Brother and my Born Again Pentecostal Nephew and Niece In-Law don't consider the Catholic Church to be a Cult and they believe that the Catholic Church worships Jesus as God.
Who gives a dime what your "born again" brother or nephew or niece in law or their churches say?
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News Item2/4/14 4:49 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
NRC wrote:
Concur 100%!! This nonsense has gone on way to long
My Born Again Non Denominational Brother and my Born Again Pentecostal Nephew and Niece In-Law don't consider the Catholic Church to be a Cult and they believe that the Catholic Church worships Jesus as God.
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News Item2/3/14 8:59 PM
Moderator Alpha  Protected NameFind all comments by Moderator Alpha
JSC wrote:
Moderator
I would like to bring up the question at what point are comments deemed innappropriate for this site?
John Yurick has continued to make statements that are antithetical and contrary to the position this site holds. I might be ok with it if he showed any desire to learn, as this is a teaching site. But he doesn't and continues to offer up opinions and take stands that are completely the opposite of the great MEN and SCHOLARS that are presented on this site. I feel it is mocking and inflamitory and with christian value should not be tollerated
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News Item2/3/14 8:39 PM
Thomas the Doubter | Ohio  Find all comments by Thomas the Doubter
Chris- Voddie is great. Spent an afternoon with him one on one discussing homeschooling. He really opened my eyes to many things. Love that guy!
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News Item2/3/14 8:34 PM
NRC  Find all comments by NRC
JSC wrote:
Moderator
I would like to bring up the question at what point are comments deemed innappropriate for this site?
John Yurick has continued to make statements that are antithetical and contrary to the position this site holds. I might be ok with it if he showed any desire to learn, as this is a teaching site. But he doesn't and continues to offer up opinions and take stands that are completely the opposite of the great MEN and SCHOLARS that are presented on this site. I feel it is mocking and inflamitory and with christian value should not be tollerated
Concur 100%!! This nonsense has gone on way to long
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News Item2/3/14 8:33 PM
Chris Frost | Indiana  Find all comments by Chris Frost
As for Yurich, if you don't feed the trolls, they stop comin round
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News Item2/3/14 8:32 PM
Chris Frost | Indiana  Find all comments by Chris Frost
What is wrong with brother Voddie and/or his teaching? I find him to be very illuminating and count him as one of my favorite teachers. The staff pick of "forgiveness" is an excellent choice. Good stuff in there.
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News Item2/3/14 8:25 PM
JSC | Illinois  Find all comments by JSC
Moderator

I would like to bring up the question at what point are comments deemed innappropriate for this site?

John Yurick has continued to make statements that are antithetical and contrary to the position this site holds. I might be ok with it if he showed any desire to learn, as this is a teaching site. But he doesn't and continues to offer up opinions and take stands that are completely the opposite of the great MEN and SCHOLARS that are presented on this site. I feel it is mocking and inflamitory and with christian value should not be tollerated

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News Item2/3/14 8:23 PM
Am I the only one  Find all comments by Am I the only one
John Yurich USA wrote:
Of course when the Catholic Church was engaging in homicidal activity that had nothing to do with worshipping Jesus. But the Catholic Church was worshipping Jesus during the Mass when the Inquisition was going on. I got my definition of a Cult from the late D. James Kennedy Presbyterian Minister from Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
Who finds this man's posts plain stupid?
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News Item2/3/14 8:20 PM
JSC | Illinois  Find all comments by JSC
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News Item2/3/14 5:47 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Dopey wrote:
When the Catholic church was murdering people of Europe for hundreds of years as part of their Roman Catholic Inquisition -- and under the direction of popes no less -- do you believe John that equaled "worship" of Jesus?
John, your statement, "since the Catholic Church has always worshipped Jesus" is nonsense.
Of course when the Catholic Church was engaging in homicidal activity that had nothing to do with worshipping Jesus. But the Catholic Church was worshipping Jesus during the Mass when the Inquisition was going on. I got my definition of a Cult from the late D. James Kennedy Presbyterian Minister from Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
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News Item2/3/14 4:56 PM
Guess it applies to | all N.T. churches then  Find all comments by Guess it applies to
John Beechy wrote:
When a so-called church has a leader (s) called pastor.
Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, PASTORS and teachers;
Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
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News Item2/3/14 4:45 PM
002 and a half  Find all comments by 002 and a half
R U wrote:
R U Quaker or Brethren or Christadelphian?
What R U ?
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News Item2/3/14 4:24 PM
R U  Find all comments by R U
John Beechy wrote:
When a so-called church has a leader (s) called pastor.
R U Quaker or Brethren or Christadelphian?
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