SteveR wrote: Catholics worship the TRUE and LIVING GOD, to suggest any less only puts you in danger of hellfire
Are you so sure? Is that your final answer? Because the Offical Leadership and Teaching of the RCC CCC 841 say they and Muslims worship the same god or if you perfer some Catholics their Popes included make is very clear they worship the RC Mary Perpetual Virgin Queen of Heaven and let's not forget the lifeless piece of bread idol where their Jesus is in their tummies for about 15 minutes until he disolves.
If anyone is in danger of hell fire sadly it is precious Catholic people deceived by their 'church'.
Xrc wrote: NEWS FLASH....SteveR and John Y For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you,and how ye TURNED TO GOD FROM IDOLS TO SERVE THE LIVING AND TRUE GOD! 1Thess.1:9 That plain enough for you.
Catholics worship the TRUE and LIVING GOD, to suggest any less only puts you in danger of hellfire
John Y., like you Catholics do not have saving faith, You cannot believe in other beings both alive and dead besides Jesus and be saved. UPS, gave you some excellent Bible verses, and I will add to them,
James 2 20 But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he offered up Isaac his son on the altar? 22 You see that faith was working with his works, and as a result of the works, faith was perfected;---NASB
Aiding and abetting the Romish Church by your attendance and lack of condemnation of it to your family is not good works but evil, Roman Catholic Authority (PDF) is the hatred of Godly authority, which if you were a Christian, you would put yourself under.
No, John Y., I'm sorry to say you're just another pagan among the few that we have on this forum, you won't be considered a Christian, until you stop not only attending, Roman Catholic Authority (PDF), but stop supporting it.
NEWS FLASH....SteveR and John Y For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you,and how ye TURNED TO GOD FROM IDOLS TO SERVE THE LIVING AND TRUE GOD! 1Thess.1:9 That plain enough for you.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: none of us believe church membership will make a difference in the matter of your salvation when you stand before your Maker for judgment. It is PROOF that you are not relying upon the Catholic Church, and until you stop going, there is no reason to see what you claim as faith to be genuine.
Each time you repackage this argument, you sound more & more foolish. By attending Church (RCC or Evangelical) he fulfills
Hebrews 10:23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised Hebrews 10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: Hebrews 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
Remaining there doesnt mean he doesnt have true faith. Just because you hate the RCC, doesnt mean it isnt a gathering place of believers.
Bottom line, John Yurich, unless you leave the Catholic church and STOP participating in ANY part of mass, you have no reason to put any faith in your profession. Because until you no longer have any dealings with the Catholic Church, thereby demonstrating your faith is NOT in it but only in the Lord Jesus, you have no reason to think that you have been born from above. It is not a matter of what church will get you to heaven, none of us believe church membership will make a difference in the matter of your salvation when you stand before your Maker for judgment. It is PROOF that you are not relying upon the Catholic Church, and until you stop going, there is no reason to see what you claim as faith to be genuine. You are only proving your reliance upon the Catholic Church and its "ordinances".
John Yurich USA wrote: It is totally superfluous what Satan and the demons believe
John Yurich, Really??? Is that your final answer? BECAUSE IT IS you have a big problem with God, as Paul (another one moved by the Holy Spirit, not some "other" spirit) who apparently didn't think it was "totally superfluous" wrote:
2 Timothy 3 16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
And the context in the Book of James ought to cry out to you James by the Spirit was speaking of those making a false profession of faith, a reproof to those who were so doing and desperate need of genuine repentance and God-fearing obedient faith, NOT empty lip service.
And please I plead with you, as others have alread begged you because we care about you, make your calling and election sure, don't trust that since you've repeated a sinner's prayer that automatically makes everything all right but do what the Bible tells you to do and test yourself (hint: by the word of God) to see if you are really in the faith you claim to have or not, and if not get right with God it will be worth it
Unprofitable Servant wrote: James 2:19 New King James Version (NKJV) "You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believeâ€”and tremble!" Mark 3:11 King James Version (KJV) " And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God. "
It is totally superfluous what Satan and the demons believe because they have no possibility of being saved and they have always been in spirit form. The definition of an unbeliever from the late D. James Kennedy Presbyterian minister from Fort Lauderdale, Florida was an individual who does not worship Jesus as God. So Catholics are not unbelievers since they worship Jesus as God. Luther did not even believe that Catholics are unbelievers because he was not off of his rocker and he knew Catholic doctrine since he was a Catholic priest.
Moderator Gamma wrote: Steven You are giving me credit for something I didn't do. So if you posted something that violated SermonAudio's Forum Policies and another took care of it, they deserve the credit. And if it didn't you are quite free to repost if you want to, within SermonAudio's Forum Policies of course.
When I realized my primary IP was being 403'd even the backdoors and my post to you containing ONLY a verse of Scripture without comment was deleted, I jumped to the conclusion it was you.
Also, I know that Steve has a soft side that he doesn't want anyone to know about. I read it between the lines on occassion, and see it in the things he doesn't say..., although he says plenty that would cause others to call me a fool right now...ha-ha. I know he's aware when he has really hurt someone, and I know certain things bother him; despite his tough as nails exterior. I don't understand the militant defense of the Roman system, and couldn't disagree more, but I think there is much more to him as a person; he just won't let anyone in. Not trying to patronize or sound gushy, but this is all why I don't respond with hard hitting posts anymore, unless the topic of racism comes up again...ha-ha. Oh boy...Let's let that one stay dead. : /
Jim, good post further down because in all my research, one thing I haven't done is to look into "origins". Very interesting topic that I will undertake though. I forget where the fish hat originated...the one the Pope wears on occassion. By the way, I didn't really take offense to the comment. What I did do is slap my hand on my steering wheel because I could believe I gave Steve the rope...ha-ha.. I should have covered any comebacks instead of stopping with dandruff. I see any speech visually so that was quite the vision...
i think we better stick with what the Bible says about gay marriages instead of changing our by-laws to conform to this world..If we do that God is not going to bless a church that say gay marriage is ok..Wake up people if it was wrong before when God destroyed Sodomn and Gamarrah..It is wrong now.read Leviticus if you have doubs about what is right or wrong..
once and for all: You do not know what denomination, if any, I am part of...And there is nothing wrong with churches protecting their integrity and conscience by writing a constitutional by-law regarding performing only Biblical marriages.