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THURSDAY, AUG 21, 2014  |  21 comments
A bad week for Common Core

Two new national polls, released Wednesday and Tuesday, found the public souring on the academic standards, which are meant to elevate math, reading and writing instruction across the nation. One of the polls, conducted by the journal Education Next, also found a steep plunge in support for the standards among public school teachers.

“There’s no denying that this is bad news for supporters of the Common Core,” said Michael Petrilli, president of the Thomas B. Fordham Institute and a proponent of the standards.

Common Core backers did get a bit of good news from Louisiana late Tuesday, when a district judge slapped down Gov. Bobby Jindal’s effort to repeal the standards by executive order. But in Ohio, the Legislature took up a bill to join the five other states that have repealed the standards in recent months. ...


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News Item8/27/14 3:39 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Remember, Mike, I'm thoroughly against, The Christian Right Movementis a disaster for the mission of Christians! ' "The Reconstructionist movement and its allies and offshoots, by substituting political and cultural action for the proclamation of the Gospel, by substituting eschatology for soteriology, and by mangling the Gospel itself, have become tools of Romanist political action" (3/02, The Trinity Review).' excerpt from, Notes on Reconstructionism. Conservative Christians are overlooking The Inadequacy of Moralism and of political action. Dominion Theology/Kingdom Now/Reconstructionism is an anti-Biblical curse.
Whatever, Jim. I suppose there is something in these irrelevant links that has something to do with the goodness of Common Core, but only you have the deep insight to know what it is. btw what does it matter what you're thoroughly against, if what you're for is govt and corporate backed corruption?
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News Item8/27/14 3:04 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Remember, Mike, I'm thoroughly against, The Christian Right Movement is a disaster for the mission of Christians! ' "The Reconstructionist movement and its allies and offshoots, by substituting political and cultural action for the proclamation of the Gospel, by substituting eschatology for soteriology, and by mangling the Gospel itself, have become tools of Romanist political action" (3/02, The Trinity Review).' excerpt from, Notes on Reconstructionism. Conservative Christians are overlooking The Inadequacy of Moralism and of political action. Dominion Theology/Kingdom Now/Reconstructionism is an anti-Biblical curse.
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News Item8/26/14 11:44 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Jeb, was thinking right about Common Core, both he and Jindel are mixed up on religion--both being Catholic.
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News Item8/26/14 9:50 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Thanks for the link, Jim. Good for Bobby Jindal. At least one politician has seen the dawn.

PS I did view the video, the one where Jindal is for Common Core. Sure glad he woke up from the stupor. Maybe the rest will take a bit longer. Jeb Bush and Jim in the same pod? Who would ever have thought Jim would support a Bush?

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News Item8/26/14 1:21 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
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News Item8/23/14 6:53 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
FT Gibbet, the woman's primary duty is Io take care of the children it is only in extreme and rare cases she would be working outside the home.but this family has found a way to get the children the all the nest quickly and they home school. http://t.today.com/parents/meet-brainy-bunch-family-7-kids-college-age-12-2D79669284 (Meet the 'Brainy Bunch,' family with 7 kids in college by age 12).
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News Item8/23/14 6:22 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Mike of NY, apparently you didn't see the video again did you? Automatons, come out of parochial schools and perhaps even some homeschools that slavishly follow the same lesson plan. As I pointed out, these videos are short. You should enjoy the first one, it has Mike Huckabee, and the present governor of Louisiana praising Common Core. Now, that was almost amusing. So, again, take a look at, http://www.businessforcore.org/videos/ (U.S. Chamber of Commerce YouTube Videos Supporting Common Core). there is a comment there by one of the experts who points out one isn't tied to a rigid teaching method. John Birch Society? I really do believe this gal has the correct idea, http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/05/07/the-wingnut-war-on-common-core-is-a-plot-to-destroy-public-schools.html (The Wingnut War On Common Core Is A Plot To Destroy Public Schools). I would say it's really more of a plot to make sure parochial schools get vouchers.
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News Item8/23/14 5:21 PM
Flibber T. Gibbet | Indianola, Iowa  Find all comments by Flibber T. Gibbet
Another thought on the govt schools vs. homeschooling issue: one spouse will have to stay home to do the homeschooling, so their income will not be counted in their Social Security 35-yr long work history that their benefits will be calculated on.
The family may be able to live on one income, but have they thought of this Social Security reduction?
A solution could be to have the kids get to work ASAP, and then the parents can open IRA accounts for them so that much of their income is tax-free.
Another solution is to have the kids in govt schools or homeschools take Advanced Placement tests to gain credit for college before they graduate from high school.
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News Item8/23/14 4:59 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
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I also have nothing against Protestant, Christian schools! Of course parochia schools are inspired by the devil and I wouldn't support any sort of voucher program. you and Mike shouldn't even be interested and common core. I just wanted to see that the majority of children who come from secular household get the best education. And the more they contribute to the economic system of the United States the better it is for everyone. As I've always said also parents who homeschool, can choose some, none, are most of the common core curriculum if they decide to do that. They can skip the non-Christian parts of it. the John Birch Society has always had an unhealthy interest in education. it is a radicalorganization that I have no use for.
You're the only one keeps bringing up the John Birch Society in this thread, Jim. Need an imaginary enemy? Common Core needs a lot more than that, so keep trying.

fyi, the purpose of education here is not to contribute to the economic system of the US. That comes as a result of educating the students to the the best of their individual ability and capability, not to make them have the same "standard" outcome with every other child. You want automatons? Move to North Korea.

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News Item8/23/14 2:46 PM
GSTexas  Find all comments by GSTexas
Dumbed down, politically correct propaganda is not the best education Jim.
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News Item8/23/14 1:35 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
The first URL in my last message has been changed into sonething I don't particularily care for. I'm going to have to look for another site to replace that one By the way, http://www.nchea.org/ (Nebraska Christian Home Educators Assn.)
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News Item8/23/14 1:00 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
GSTexas, I really don't know how often I have put up URLs such as these, Links To State Laws & Organizations For Homeschoolers and NET: Home School Nebraska

I also have nothing against Protestant, Christian schools! Of course parochia schools are inspired by the devil and I wouldn't support any sort of voucher program. you and Mike shouldn't even be interested and common core. I just wanted to see that the majority of children who come from secular household get the best education. And the more they contribute to the economic system of the United States the better it is for everyone. As I've always said also parents who homeschool, can choose some, none, are most of the common core curriculum if they decide to do that. They can skip the non-Christian parts of it. the John Birch Society has always had an unhealthy interest in education. it is a radicalorganization that I have no use for.

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News Item8/23/14 12:15 PM
GSTexas  Find all comments by GSTexas
Jim, I have to wonder why as a Christian, you are so wild about a godless, humanistic education like common core? Thats why we homeschool. Whether common core or no, its just gonna be politically correct, humanistic garbage.
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News Item8/23/14 8:18 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
http://www.businessforcore.org/videos/ (U.S. Chamber of Commerce YouTube Videos Supporting Common Core) . if you are using a tablet or phone, the browser you use maybe rather fussy with these videos. it's interesting to see the politicians who have turned tail, on this topic butignorance as the upper hand, when the Tea Party, John Birch Society, and the Koch brothers are involved.
the first video that comes up I think really covers the needs of common core. You are going to have a uniformed educational program because businesses will demand it. So, if your children want to have, they had better see what businesses want which will be based on common core
Education isn't primarily about training for the workforce, but the mindset that thinks it is explains why the Chamber is for it. They, like government, love the idea of mindless automatons fitted into the machinery, unable to do much else because they have been so fitted. Corporate greed is one reason behind the push for common core, which should be obvious.
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News Item8/23/14 1:55 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
http://www.businessforcore.org/videos/ (U.S. Chamber of Commerce YouTube Videos Supporting Common Core) . if you are using a tablet or phone, the browser you use maybe rather fussy with these videos. it's interesting to see the politicians who have turned tail, on this topic butignorance as the upper hand, when the Tea Party, John Birch Society, and the Koch brothers are involved.

the first video that comes up I think really covers the needs of common core. You are going to have a uniformed educational program because businesses will demand it. So, if your children want to have, they had better see what businesses want which will be based on common core

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News Item8/22/14 7:52 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Mike, they use different names because as the article that SA put up itself, people wanted common core, they just wanted it under a different namebeing the United States of America, the citizens want a united standard. I don't think any commentary I put up on common core was gushing over it except for they United States Chamber of Commerce videos. this article controversies in the common core program,ballotpedia.org/Understanding_%22Common_Core%22:_Standards_and_Backlash> (Understanding "Common Core": Standards and Backlash)some of the r the kiddies weren't that brilliant--and neither were some of their teachers.
colleges and businesses are just getting fed up with getting ignoramuses who should have been educated properly through the years, and it isn't something they are supposed to give remedial education.
Whatever you need to maintain the illusion, Jim.

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News Item8/22/14 12:53 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Mike, they use different names because as the article that SA put up itself, people wanted common core, they just wanted it under a different namebeing the United States of America, the citizens want a united standard. I don't think any commentary I put up on common core was gushing over it except for they United States Chamber of Commerce videos. this article controversies in the common core program,http://ballotpedia.org/Understanding_%22Common_Core%22:_Standards_and_Backlash (Understanding "Common Core": Standards and Backlash). some of the r the kiddies weren't that brilliant--and neither were some of their teachers.

colleges and businesses are just getting fed up with getting ignoramuses who should have been educated properly through the years, and it isn't something they are supposed to give remedial education.

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News Item8/21/14 3:25 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
%Understanding "Common Core": Standards and Backlash. Too many teachers and students just don't have "the right stuff."
That's right, what do teachers know about education? It's politicians what knows edyoucashin, right?

btw, some states that feel they may lose out have decided to keep Common Core standards, but change the name to protect the guilty and disassociate from so "popular" an idea.

Arizona: "Arizona's College and Career Ready Standards"

Florida: "Next Generation Sunshine State Standards"

Iowa: "The Iowa Core"

Pitiful isn't it, what lust for money can lead to?

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News Item8/21/14 10:24 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Excuses, excuses, Mike. Understanding "Common Core": Standards and Backlash. Too many teachers and students just don't have "the right stuff."
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News Item8/21/14 7:44 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
From the news:
"The Education Next poll also asked people who said they’d heard of the Common Core a series of true/false questions about the standards. Huge majorities got them wrong, mistakenly insisting, for instance, that the federal government mandates the use of the standards and that the Common Core strips away local control over textbooks."

Not quite true. All but the most naïve know that federal mandates aren't needed when federal funding is somehow tied to the objective.

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