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FRONT PAGE  |  8/1/2015
SATURDAY, AUG 9, 2014  |  13 comments  |  1 commentary
Ebola Comments From Ben Carson, Donald Trump Draw Massive Christian Backlash

Prominent conservative voices are criticizing the decision to bring two medical missionaries who contracted Ebola back to the United States for treatment.

Real estate mogul Donald Trump and retired neurosurgeon and conservative commentator Dr. Ben Carson were both critical of bringing the infected missionaries back to the U.S. Columnist Ann Coulter went further, questioning why the missionaries were working in the "disease-ridden cesspools" of Africa.


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News Item8/10/14 7:31 PM
William S. Sutherland | Houston, Texas  Find all comments by William S. Sutherland
Hey, Jim, every time I try to post immediately after my previous post, I get a message saying I must wait until someone else posts first. How do you get away with 2 or 3 posts in a row?
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News Item8/10/14 6:46 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Google Speech, though I will tell you it doesn't work better on higher quality tablets than it does low quality ones.

Anyway, take a look at the CNN article on missionaries, just excellent! They didn't put it this way, but I will, There are missionaries that spread the gospel, then there are missionaries who spread a fall gospel, and then there are missionaries that spread no Gospel, but just do social work. Not really missionaries at all. Apparently the Catholic Relief Services is one such "missionary" group. I always wondered where the Methodists got the idea that the Gospel was superfluous to missions work, and that was decades ago.

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News Item8/10/14 10:29 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
some don't spread a golf ball at all! Social action is not really missionary work, even though if CNN think so. anyway, an interesting article, so look it over.
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News Item8/10/14 10:27 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
A very interesting article from CNN, http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/08/09/why-missionaries-put-their-lives-on-the-line/ (Why missionaries put their lives on the line). to paraphrase them, some missionaries spread the gospel, the missionaries spread a false gospel, and
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News Item8/9/14 12:30 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Martin & Chris

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/coulter080714.php3#.U-ZHO4d5uyk (Ebola doc's condition downgraded to 'idiotic' By Ann Coulter) insular at best selfish at worst. By the Way,

Matthew 6
31 “Therefore don’t be anxious, saying, ‘What will we eat?’, ‘What will we drink?’ or, ‘With what will we be clothed?’ 32 For the Gentiles seek after all these things; for your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. 33 But seek first God’s Kingdom, and his righteousness; and all these things will be given to you as well. 34 Therefore don’t be anxious for tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Each day’s own evil is sufficient.

"Neither worry nor careless indifference is the appropriate attitude for the believer as daily responsibilities are carried out.

"After giving the commands not to worry and the reasons why Jesus pointed His followers to the root problem of worry. It is living by only a “little faith” when our call is to trust the Lord fully. Worry reveals an unwillingness to do that." -- Gil Rugh from: http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=72091055591 (Fa

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News Item8/9/14 9:47 AM
Dolores  Find all comments by Dolores
My thoughts on this is that with all the travelling done in todays world vie airplanes and boats, it will only be contained in Africa through the mercies of God. So glad I am ready to meet the Lord and like Christropher said, keep sowing the seed and work while it is still day because the time is coming when it is night and can no longer work. I am thankful for the missionaries that go into these places, unafraid, trusting God and sowing his seed of the gospel to the lost and dying. Praise His precious name.
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News Item8/9/14 8:58 AM
Martin | Texas  Find all comments by Martin
I don't think it is fair to lump together the statement of Dr. Carson with that of Ann Coulter, for they have a fundamentally different conception of the work done by Dr. Brantley and other missionaries who place themselves in life-threatening situations. Coulter's comments reflect her non-evangelical worldview, which has no grasp of the priority of Christian missions and which views people like Dr. Brantley as stupid. She believes he is wasting his medical gifts going to a place like Africa instead of 'serving his own country' and seeking to convert Hollywood moguls. Her viewpoint is fundamentally anti-biblical. Dr. Carson's remarks do not at all disparage Dr. Brantley's work. His remarks are limited solely to the issue of how best to treat the infected doctor in a way that will prevent the spread of the disease to uninfected populations. That is a different viewpoint than that of Ann Coulter, when she disparages the value of missionary work. I am not saying I agree with Dr. Carson's view about treating Dr. Brantley overseas, but I don't think people who feel as he does about the best way to treat the infected missionaries should be regarded as 'anti-missions.' It is unfortunate that his remarks are seen as putting him in the same company of someone like Ann Coulter.
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News Item8/9/14 8:19 AM
Carl in Greensboro | NC  Find all comments by Carl in Greensboro
"And Jesus having heard that John was delivered up, did withdraw to Galilee,And Jesus having heard that John was delivered up, did withdraw to Galilee" (Matthew 4:12). This verse speaks to the excellent comments of Christopher, John, & Chris and also addresses the risk of bringing known cases of Ebola to this continent. No doubt Jesus had been predestined to be arrested in Judea and be crucified on the cross, but that would happen 3 years later. The word "withdraw" hints at avoiding danger. Jesus could have simply ignored the danger (being the Son of God and divine) but He just recently rebuked the devil by saying that we should not put God to a foolish test. Many of us often throw caution and common sense to the wind when we think (and may actually) have a divine destiny and calling of God and rush headlong into dangerous situations and places. But we should take our cue from Jesus and discretely withdraw and pray for guidance. I think it would have been a good idea to bring the Ebola patients back to the U.S. if the CDC was under any other administration than Obama's. Didn't they just infect themselves with anthrax just last month and walked around with it for who knows how long until the mistake was discovered? The DHHS, VA, IRS, HS and other depts are jokes under this admin.
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News Item8/9/14 7:39 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Hi John...I know what you mean. For example, on many occassions when I have expressed my sadness over people being slaughtered, a child being murdered, etc, I have received the response saying, "who are you to question God's will?", basically. Now, I never question God's will...ever, but the attitude is, whatever will be will be and we can't, and shouldn't, do anything to change anything. Kind of like "don't eat healthy because you may be fighting against God to outlive your appointed time", etc. That may be a bit extreme, but I'm sure they are out there. I think the sort of ideology you described promotes dangerous complacency. The most dangerous of all, to me, being don't bother witnessing to, praying for, or helping the lost because whatever will be, will be...God has already decided their fate and it can't be changed. How do we know we are not the instrument God would have used to reach that person? How do we know that a seed planted wouldn't have been the one that outgrew all others? How do we know that it wouldn't have been the one and only seed in a persons lifetime?
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News Item8/9/14 7:24 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Chris Frost wrote:
I have to agree. There was no reason to risk bringing them back to the U.S. Anythung that could be done for them here could have just as easily been done over there without introducing the virus to a whole other continent and riskibg the lives of hundreds of millions of other people.
Chris, it is nice to read your post, believing as you do in risk. Some keep trying to tell me that the day of my death is foreordained and I can do nothing about that. So, they don't believe in risk, risky, risking, because that would demote God from his sovereign state and make him only a god, so they say, although I don't believe a word of it.

Oh, but I do believe in common sense.

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News Item8/9/14 6:54 AM
Chris Frost | Indiana  Find all comments by Chris Frost
I have to agree. There was no reason to risk bringing them back to the U.S. Anythung that could be done for them here could have just as easily been done over there without introducing the virus to a whole other continent and riskibg the lives of hundreds of millions of other people.
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News Item8/9/14 3:48 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
"Columnist Ann Coulter went further, questioning why the missionaries were working in the "disease-ridden cesspools" of Africa."

Eh?

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News Item8/9/14 12:51 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
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