As Israel continues to deal with the threat of terrorist rockets flying through its skies, a recent newspaper headline trumpeted the possibility of supernatural protection.
â€śTheir God changes the path of our rockets in mid-air, said a terrorist,â€ť was the headline in the July 18 edition of the Jewish Telegraph.
It was a partial quote from Barbara Ordman, who lives in Maâ€™ale Adumim on the West Bank.
Her exact quotation was: â€śAs one of the terrorists from Gaza was reported to say when asked why they couldnâ€™t aim their rockets more effectively: â€śWe do aim them, but their God changes their path in mid-air.â€ť...
Jim, if theocracy or racial preferencing is not good in your eyes, then surely Israel could give equal rights to "Palestinians" (as you say, Palestine does not exist) who are willing to operate under their form of gov?
yes, Jim, that's a comment I can agree with. Hamas terrorizes both sides, any Palestinian who tries to live peacefully or refuses to do their crazy stuff is targeted and threatened. That's a bit more realistic. Communism and Islam are not all that different, its a political movement that expands through force, problem with force is it can't be maintained forever. Christ will return and evil will not have its way like this forever.
Penelope, in fairness, US did seperate the two comments with the 2nd half being to Jojo. Dorcas, I'm with you and was thinking orÂ askingÂ before I read your comment. Unless someone mis spoke somewhere and that single comment is being used to judge all others, I haven't seen any hate speech. When I came to the forum, I was a dispensationalist because it's all I knew. When anyone spoke against Israel and the Jews, I was offended and in shock, and sad because I thought they were all (basically) going to see the light much like Saul/Paul did, in a miraculous way. I always felt like they are still God's chosen people today who He has made a promise to; a promise He will fulfill for His namesake, not because they're good or deserve it, and I always thought America was being blessed in part because we were a friend and defense to Israel. Now, I am straddling the fense as I listen to both sides make their points. I do believe that the jews are the church, but I also believe that God will uphold His promise to those born jews for His namesake. Hopefully I'm making sense and not too far off the trail. Bottomline is that I don't claim to know anything for certain.
pennned wrote: Unprofitable Servant, I am not JoJo so I really cannot accept your apology....
I really did not think you were, she seems to be from another country, but seeing you were the one bring up the topic of discussion I used the only place in the forum to offer my apology as she has not said anything of my post, just you. I did, however try and make the distinction between what I said to you from what I said to her by addressing her by name in my post. Thanks
Strat wrote: 1. The Jew haters would deny the Jews,if it were in their power both the right and ability to defend themselves and the Arabs would just sweep in and wipe them out which is their stated goal.
2. The Jew haters share this goal,some of them based on the idea that Israel does not serve God,well i suspect a lot of them don't serve God any better than Israel does,but their hatred blinds them to it and they call for,albeit indirectly,for their destruction
You did understand the point GS made? That the true Jew is one circumcised in heart? This makes Jews currently non-Jews, and Non-Jews who are born again, Jews. Do you see that?
1. Yes, there are such people in the world, and if there are any on this thread I will give them a right ticking off, should you care to point them out. Mind you, I will tick them off in love, hoping for repentance which leads to salvation. I realise that Gung-Ho Americans are prone to this sort of thing through propaganda, especially war propaganda.
2. Anyone trying to be saved by "serving God" has not understood the gospel. All have sinned, all are guilty, therefore salvation has to be by grace (undeserved) and this comes through Jesus Christ who paid the debt we owe. "Ye must be born again."
Strat... What is your problem? What have I ever posted that would warrant such an attack as what you just posted. What's with the chip on your shoulder attitude in nearly all your comments? All I see in your comments is false accusations and anger.... Good evening.
pennned wrote: if you want to ascribe secret hate to posters, (I'm assuming that's what you mean about 'I don't believe her') that's kind of the theme around here, what can I do? might I suggest that there is a difference between "hate" and "criticism"?
ok pennned, I will retract and apologize for saying she has a hatred for jewish people. JoJo I misjudge your comment by reading between the lines things that I did not necessarily know are true, I trust you will forgive my misjudgment and anything I said that was mean-spirited.
Would someone point me to the comments that says they hate Jews....Can't seem to locate them...unless someone is bearing false witness against some of us who believe the Bible teaches that those who are Gods children (born again) are the true spiritual Israel of God.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: Ok penned, where is JoJo love for American Dispensatonal Christians? JoJo says she loves people who hate Christianity (jews and muslims) and all people, but apparently all people doesn't include anyone who believes in Dispensationsalism. Again, sorry if I don't believe her.
if you want to ascribe secret hate to posters, (I'm assuming that's what you mean about 'I don't believe her') that's kind of the theme around here, what can I do?
might I suggest that there is a difference between "hate" and "criticism"?
John UK wrote: Does this mean that Strat hates us because we are Jews?
The Jew haters would deny the Jews,if it were in their power both the right and ability to defend themselves and the Arabs would just sweep in and wipe them out which is their stated goal.
The Jew haters share this goal,some of them based on the idea that Israel does not serve God,well i suspect a lot of them don't serve God any better than Israel does,but their hatred blinds them to it and they call for,albeit indirectly,for their destruction