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WEDNESDAY, JUL 23, 2014  |  29 comments
Bob Dole battles home-schoolers

This marks the second time the former senator will square off against Mike Farris, president of the Homeschool Legal Defense Association, on the same issue: an international treaty on rights for people with disabilities.

Farris mounted a public campaign against the treaty when the Senate took it up in 2012, fanning concerns among prominent conservatives like Rick Santorum and the Heritage Foundation that it could infringe on the rights of parents whose children have disabilities, threaten states’ rights and become a legal tool for pro-choice advocates pushing against restrictive abortion laws.

Proponents maintained that the treaty would have no effect on American law, but the detractors proved stronger: The treaty fell short of being ratified by five votes. ...


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News Item7/26/14 7:44 AM
PursuitofTruth  Find all comments by PursuitofTruth
What do you mean by your last post Mark? Could you please clarify?
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News Item7/25/14 1:43 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
PursuitofTruth wrote:
Farris is a homeschool defense attourney, not "person with his own right wing agenda". Unless defending Homeschoolers is a right wing agenda!
It is to the left wing, which values only its own agenda.
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News Item7/25/14 10:45 AM
PursuitofTruth  Find all comments by PursuitofTruth
Farris is a homeschool defense attourney, not "person with his own right wing agenda". Unless defending Homeschoolers is a right wing agenda!
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News Item7/25/14 10:23 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
One really should have complained about the title article in the first place, it is really Bob Dole battling a person with his own right wing agenda who says that herepresents homeschooling. Now that is certainly debatable.homeschooling gets entangled politics it can only hurt homeschooling.

by the way john Y., have you read, Meet the 'Brainy Bunch,' family with 7 kids in college by age 12 yet?

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News Item7/24/14 8:54 PM
Super Dad  Find all comments by Super Dad
Meant middle school, not higher grades In middle school.
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News Item7/24/14 8:52 PM
Super Dad  Find all comments by Super Dad
Trust me, I'm a father of four boys and three girls, and you will do some of the educating. God has given both the father and the mother have the responsibility to teach the children. And what grades are you talking about doing this in? It will work for kindergaten and second grade, but will hardly work for the higher grades in middle school. Those will require a 9 month plan! Anways, trying to clarify, that's all.
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News Item7/24/14 8:29 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Super Dad wrote:
You can't expect a young child to be like a teenager! They're not neccesarily that terribly interested in doing school all day for six months (which is probably about right taking into account the fact that you're trying to cram 9 months worth of work into 6 months). I was reffering to the crammed school day, not the Geology and Rock formation part was going to be boring, though you can't garauntee they'll necessarily be interested in those kinds of things.
I don't plan on cramming 9 months of schooling into 6 months because the curriculum will only be a 6 month curriculum and not a 9 month curriculum. And the children will only be in homeschool for about 4 hours a day. And anyway I will not be the one teaching the children. That task will be done by my wife.
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News Item7/24/14 8:22 PM
Super Dad  Find all comments by Super Dad
You can't expect a young child to be like a teenager! They're not neccesarily that terribly interested in doing school all day for six months (which is probably about right taking into account the fact that you're trying to cram 9 months worth of work into 6 months). I was reffering to the crammed school day, not the Geology and Rock formation part was going to be boring, though you can't garauntee they'll necessarily be interested in those kinds of things.
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News Item7/24/14 8:07 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Super Dad wrote:
John Yurich wrote:
This is a free country and I don't have to follow the nine month time frame for homeschooling when I get married and have children. And besides the children will continue to learn things in the six months they are off of school by watching 16MM movies that I have on various science subjects like Geology and Rock Formation and by watching VHS videos of the Civil War and science subjects like Physics.
Sounds like a borring existane for your poor kids!
What would be so boring for my future children to learn about Geology and Rock Formation by watching 16MM movies about Geology and Rock Formation and learning about the Civil War by watching a VHS box set about the Civil War and learning about Physics by watching a VHS box set about Physics?
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News Item7/24/14 12:13 PM
Super Dad  Find all comments by Super Dad
John Yurich wrote:

This is a free country and I don't have to follow the nine month time frame for homeschooling when I get married and have children. And besides the children will continue to learn things in the six months they are off of school by watching 16MM movies that I have on various science subjects like Geology and Rock Formation and by watching VHS videos of the Civil War and science subjects like Physics.

Sounds like a borring existane for your poor kids!

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News Item7/24/14 12:11 PM
BibleSays...  Find all comments by BibleSays...
John Yurich wrote:

This is a free country and I don't have to follow the nine month time frame for homeschooling when I get married and have children. And besides the children will continue to learn things in the six months they are off of school by watching 16MM movies that I have on various science subjects like Geology and Rock Formation and by watching VHS videos of the Civil War and science subjects like Physics.

I never questioned your freedom to teach your FUTURE children within a six month time frame. However, I do advise you rethink this idea when you do actually have kids to teach, because such a time constraint is A. Unpratical and B. Going to stress your kids out! I've both been homeschooled, and homeschooled myself, and i'm speaking from experience. I'm sure you'll reconsider your ideas once you're married and have kids. If you don't want to listen to my seasoned experience then go right ahead, I'm just trying to help you as an older brother.

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News Item7/24/14 8:48 AM
JoBob | USA  Find all comments by JoBob
Strat wrote:
People oppose home schooling for different reasons,strangley enough it is not anybody else's business if people decide to home school their children,public education doesn't like it because it is competition,the state doesn't like it because they do not get to indoctrinate children with the state as god propaganda for several hours a day to produce loyal,obedient,complacent and compliant drones
"Christians" oppose it because it represents a separation from the world they are so in love with and feel they may get some negative publicity by reason of association.....home schooling is good and the right of every parent.
Yes!

Christians must realize the 1st step is to get rid of the Homeschoolers. Once that is illegal the next step will be outlawing the Christian schools. You think wild stuff is taught in public school now!

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News Item7/24/14 4:38 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
BibleSays... wrote:
John Yurich,
You apparently don't know a thing about homeschooling. I was homeschooled and have homeschooled my kids and we did about nine or more months per year of school! Not these fairy tale halvsies you dream about. Every other homeschooler I know does about the same thing. You cannot cram the kind of work required into a six month frame, it simply doesn't work.
This is a free country and I don't have to follow the nine month time frame for homeschooling when I get married and have children. And besides the children will continue to learn things in the six months they are off of school by watching 16MM movies that I have on various science subjects like Geology and Rock Formation and by watching VHS videos of the Civil War and science subjects like Physics.
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News Item7/23/14 10:55 PM
Strat  Find all comments by Strat
People oppose home schooling for different reasons,strangley enough it is not anybody else's business if people decide to home school their children,public education doesn't like it because it is competition,the state doesn't like it because they do not get to indoctrinate children with the state as god propaganda for several hours a day to produce loyal,obedient,complacent and compliant drones

"Christians" oppose it because it represents a separation from the world they are so in love with and feel they may get some negative publicity by reason of association.....home schooling is good and the right of every parent.

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News Item7/23/14 9:21 PM
BibleSays...  Find all comments by BibleSays...
John Yurich,

You apparently don't know a thing about homeschooling. I was homeschooled and have homeschooled my kids and we did about nine or more months per year of school! Not these fairy tale halvsies you dream about. Every other homeschooler I know does about the same thing. You cannot cram the kind of work required into a six month frame, it simply doesn't work.

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News Item7/23/14 8:03 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Jim Lincoln wrote:
No, John Y., homeschoolers may have a longer school year.
The whole point of homeschooling is so the children are not under a nine month schooling time frame but so that the children attend school for 6 months and then are off of school for 6 months.
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News Item7/23/14 7:57 PM
JoBob | USA  Find all comments by JoBob
Jim Lincoln said of Mike Farris' actions...."attacking that is ignorant at best."

Mike Farris ignorant because he opposes common core? Because he opposes govt sponsored abortion?

Ignorance is a funny thing don't you know! Lol

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News Item7/23/14 6:56 PM
PursuitofTruth  Find all comments by PursuitofTruth
Jim Lincoln wrote:

Farris, is a poor representative for homeschooling. he is dragging homeschooling into political argume[ nts that will just make it look bad. common core is accepted in more than two-thirds of the states, so attacking that is ignorant at best. an interesting article about people or I should say children with a great deal of religious education, The Possible Downside of Too Much Religious Training Anyway, Mr. Farris has been exposed to, too many fairy tales--from the John Birch Society.

Oh, so you're one of those people who love the idea of children being taught about deviant sex in the first grade! How wonderful! I'm sure you'd probably also like your first grader looking at porn cartoons at school! And what about those terrible founders like George Washington? I'm sure you'd love them to learn how these men were God haters, and evil caniving crooks too! Right? All of the above are taught in common core, so go right ahead and continue trashing people who actually have the guts to stand against it, if that's what you want your kids to learn.

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News Item7/23/14 6:35 PM
Thomas the Doubter | Ohio  Find all comments by Thomas the Doubter
The Jim and John bunch again?! You boys have absolutely no clue about homeschooling! You should do us all a favor and just be quite.
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News Item7/23/14 4:24 PM
s c | Oh  Find all comments by s c
John Y wrote: "Homeschooling is good for children. When I get married and children they will be homeschooled."

Homeschooling is the only way to go, especially for Christians. John Y, I hope that you will be blessed one day to get married and have those children. It seems to be a desire of your heart.

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